Bolivian Revolution Will Help Cuba!

[il Commy]

The bolivian working people along with the peasants have succeeded throwing the right-wing president. The mass organizations have sent the new president a list of "minimum demands" (the "maximum demands" are a socialist society) including nationalization of the oil and mines, and social laws. If the president won't except this demands (which he won't I believe, because he rules in the name of USA imperialism and the local elite) than a People's Assembly will be found, assembled from representatives of the social organizations and the trade unions. This will be a clear spitting in the face of fake-capitalist democracy and will be a stage before the socialist revolution the will found a workers' state and equality.

Cuba is under the embargo of the USA for many decades. It is threatened by a war many times. The cuban people are very poor, though there is no hunger or diseases. Under any capitalist regime that will be under such kind of embargo the people would be starving in the streets, but in Cuba everyone has a right for food, health, education, work, rest and welfare. But Cuba had to privitize small parts of the economy and become less democratic, because it had to resist the USA embargo and invasion plans. But if Bolivia and the rest of Latin America will join Cuba under socialism, than the deformatives could be fixed and the cuban people, along with the rest of the peoples in South America, could step into socialism and equality without fear or poverty. And a bolivian revolution will surely set fire to revoultions and strikes everywhere else in the world - from Argentina to Israel to Russia, and even to the United States!

Show your solidarity with the bolivian and cuban peoples! Arise ye workers from ye slumbers! Viva la Cuba! Viva la Bolivia! Workers of the world unite!

[Ian]

Let's hope that workers consciousness remains at the current level, because workers and peasants will need to be mobilised in their droves if Mesa tries to pull some shit.

We've all been encouraged by what has happened over the last few days, let's hope that more of the same happens across the globe.

[Pete]

Days? Or do you mean months? Bolivia has been up for more than just a few days. Infact the current "democratic" government has killed more protesters than any of the military juntas in the days before "democracy" in Bolivia.

Mesa won't change things, and the armed forces have sworn their allegiance to the "constitution" as has Mesa if I believe correctly. They want to stabalize the situation and keep the status quo, and then probly push the offending bills through as quietly as possible.

The current state of workers consiousness, if it remains and pushes for a new system can acheive it, or the government, supported by the USA, will have to use brute force to quell it, which sadly may be the case (but that, remember, was the last presidents down fall.)

[kingbee]

The current state of workers consiousness, if it remains and pushes for a new system can acheive it, or the government, supported by the USA, will have to use brute force to quell it, which sadly may be the case (but that, remember, was the last presidents down fall.)

i dont know if they willthemselves, but get the cia to do the dirty work. i think this "revolution" is great news. maybe che's wishes of a south american revolution could be achived! argentina, venezuela, bolivia?

[Al Creed]

MMMM...I love the smell of Revolution in the Morning!

[commieboy]

I think it's great that Bolivia is having a socialistic Revolution...Funny how they didn't have this much ambition [SIZE=14]36 years ago!

[Kez]

first off its not a socialsit revolution. There is no marxist leadership, and the workers arent calling for socialist revolution. In fact the new president has been given time by the COB which is the workers union who have led the uprisings,to do what it wants and the COB has sed it will co-operate.

i wish people wud read on wtf is going on then say hurah its a commie revolution...This is a reflection of a lack of leadership and organisation which would spearhead the workers into power. In fact the leadership has been so poor and slow, that the workers have took it upon themselves to form soviets for themselves individually to change things.

http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/bolivia_1st...heet201003.html (http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/bolivia_1st_bal_sheet201003.html)

[RevolucioN NoW]

Saw a show last night called "coca and the congressman". It was about Evo Morales (sp) and his party MAS (movement towards socialism).

It shows how much support there is for genuine socialist policies amongst the rural indiginous inhabitants of Bolivia, who grow coca in contravention of the US "War on Drugs".

Morales was shown going around various indiginous communities and expressing his hatred for Capitalism and respect for both the Venezualan and Cuban Revolutions.

Evo's MAS was the main force behind the overthrow of bolivias right wing president and are expected ot win the next elections, which will hopefully be soon as the vice president has declared his rule a "caretaker adminstration".

You can never trust those damn American educated mining billionares however.

:ph34r:

[il Commy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2003, 09:34 PM
first off its not a socialsit revolution. There is no marxist leadership, and the workers arent calling for socialist revolution. In fact the new president has been given time by the COB which is the workers union who have led the uprisings,to do what it wants and the COB has sed it will co-operate.

i wish people wud read on wtf is going on then say hurah its a commie revolution...This is a reflection of a lack of leadership and organisation which would spearhead the workers into power. In fact the leadership has been so poor and slow, that the workers have took it upon themselves to form soviets for themselves individually to change things.

http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/bolivia_1st...heet201003.html (http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/bolivia_1st_bal_sheet201003.html)
Even the most pedantic comrades from the CMI will agree that this is a major step forward. A revolution can not come at once, it has stages in it and it can be quite long, with ups and downs inside it. The leadership of the unions and social organizations is much more progressive than in other places in the world, for instance the world "socialism" will never be pronounced by the leadership of the israeli Histadrut. The struggle to overthrow the president s just a step forward to revolution, which show the workers that under capitalism no president will achieve their demands. True, there is a some sort of lack of leadership, the communist party is not functioning well to my understanding. But the struggle is to create a good revolutionary leadership from what I seen, there must be many progressive proletarians among the workers that would form a good leadership for the uprising. Not a chance that among the people from the trade-unions calling for the foundation of a People's Assembly there is no cadres that could lead a mass party into the seizure of power.

[Kez]

i didnt suggest that this wasnt a good step comrade, this is a huge step, but my point was against the mindless slogans that comes from che-lives on that bolivia has revolution = end of story, happy ending.

for sure this is a big big step, but there is a lot to go.

Im trying to bring this as an example to those who say there is no need for a vanguard in a revolution. THIS is the product of no vanguard

[il Commy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 05:20 PM
i didnt suggest that this wasnt a good step comrade, this is a huge step, but my point was against the mindless slogans that comes from che-lives on that bolivia has revolution = end of story, happy ending.

for sure this is a big big step, but there is a lot to go.

Im trying to bring this as an example to those who say there is no need for a vanguard in a revolution. THIS is the product of no vanguard
I agree with you about the slogans throwing. But about the lack of vanguard, I'm not sure. I think this stagnation of the revolution had to happen, in many revolutions the ruling classes tried to stop mass uprising by elections. The job of the unions, organizations and parties now is to organize into a mass working-class revolutionary party in elections, to spread socialist propaganda among the people. Than after the elections the consciousness of the masses won't be backward-pointed (I hope that's the correct use of words). Than a People's Assembly and Workers' Councils could be formed, and a new stage of the revolution will begin.

[Kez]

The revolution could have been won by friday night at the latest, they could easily have had power, but with no marxist vanguard they gave power to bourgeois and now the revolutionary movement has subsided
however, as the new president failed to get to the demands of the people, then the revolutionary struggle will pick up again, i think theyve given the bastard 90 days...