The EZLN

[Susurrus]

Does anyone know what have they been up to recently? I haven't heard anything about them for a while.

[the Left™]

I read that recently like around 2009 one of the subcomandantes was killed in action. But you are right I havent heard much about them recently either. :huh:

[Apoi_Viitor]

This is off topic, but I did a quick google search, and all I could find were articles on how Breivik admired the EZLN.

"The Zapatista uprising in Mexico is an example of a common contemporary revolution which has strong ties of solidarity with the common Irish people," says Breivik on page 484 thousand of the manifesto "2083 A European Declaration of Independence" (2083. A European Declaration of Independence),

[Susurrus]

This is off topic, but I did a quick google search, and all I could find were articles on how Breivik admired the EZLN.

"The Zapatista uprising in Mexico is an example of a common contemporary revolution which has strong ties of solidarity with the common Irish people," says Breivik on page 484 thousand of the manifesto "2083 A European Declaration of Independence" (2083. A European Declaration of Independence),

Ehh!?! What was his reasoning for this?? And what was with the Irish comment???

[CHE with an AK]

This is off topic, but I did a quick google search, and all I could find were articles on how Breivik admired the EZLN.

The psychotic moron Breivik pretty much mentions every group that has ever picked up a gun in the last 100 years in his 1,500 page rant of idiotic and xenophobic bullshit.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

If you can read spanish: enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx/

I wish I could. Can anyone verify if this is a legit communication line?

Can't post links yet; copy-and-paste

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Google translate FTW

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dzapatistas%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26s a%3DN%26prmd%3Divb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&u=http://enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx/

The Zapatistas are spreading to other communities actually:

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52057

A lot of indigenous and poor resent the loss of ejido communal lands, but they face opposition from armed paras. But the EZLN is still very active. They have made statements in opposition to the militarization of the drug war, and remain one of the most successful "anarcho-communist" movements out there.

[Tablo]

Google translate FTW

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dzapatistas%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26s a%3DN%26prmd%3Divb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&u=http://enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx/

The Zapatistas are spreading to other communities actually:

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52057

A lot of indigenous and poor resent the loss of ejido communal lands, but they face opposition from armed paras. But the EZLN is still very active. They have made statements in opposition to the militarization of the drug war, and remain one of the most successful "anarcho-communist" movements out there.
Except they aren't anarchists.

[noble brown]

I'm deeply interested in the ezln. My dads in texas and has lots a fam in mexico whom he visits often. He's very intelligent but his politics are conservative, oddly enough. He is deeply interested in politics and world events but he's never heard of them. I mean he's in mexico talking politics and news in the local bar with friends and no one has ever mentioned the ezln? Odd. I wanna go down there

[Susurrus]

Except they aren't anarchists.

I believe that's why he put quotation marks there, due to the fact that they do not officially subscribe to any political ideology but resemble anarcho-communists in most ways.

[Magón]

I'm deeply interested in the ezln. My dads in texas and has lots a fam in mexico whom he visits often. He's very intelligent but his politics are conservative, oddly enough. He is deeply interested in politics and world events but he's never heard of them. I mean he's in mexico talking politics and news in the local bar with friends and no one has ever mentioned the ezln? Odd. I wanna go down there

If you go down there, you'll see most Mexicans are conservative in political matters. And if you want to talk EZLN with any of them, you have to bring it up yourself. Though the reasons they're not often talked about is for one, they're not all that big in the media's eye down there, and two, most Mexicans don't pay attention, or have proper sources to get news from the EZLN territory, so they pay attention to other matters.

I was just recently down there, hanging out with family and friends, and most of what I heard/saw in the news was cartels and other things like that, which effect most Mexican's lives, then what the EZLN is doing.

[noble brown]

Growning up I always thought my dad was liberal. It puzzles me how conservative ppl are. What's the public image of the ezln?

[Magón]

Why does it puzzle you? I mean, the Catholic Church still has it's fingers here and there, which even if people aren't apart of the church, or have anything to do with it, they still have some of that conservative stance. Though there are plenty who are open, and not conservative, they're just very well hidden, like me and the friends I have down there. Mexico City though, is pretty open compared to other big cities in the country. If you look at the type of people who live in Mexico City, with those in like Tampico, or somewhere else like that, you see there's a big difference.

The image of the EZLN varies, but most of what I've lived through and seen, the people are indifferent to the EZLN. But like I've said in another thread awhile back, that's mostly because most groups, revolutionary or otherwise, in Mexican history, has just been as corrupt and fucked up as the one they replace. So the EZLN, even with it's history, isn't really seen as any different than going back to when Zapata and Villa, were causing a ruckus.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Most of the Mexican immigrants I've spoken with and befriended here in Georgia know of the EZLN, and have a positive view of them, but they seem cynical. As if they would like to see a liberation of Mexico, but don't quite trust the Zapatistas like what Zin said in the previous post; or they feel like it's futile.

My Uncle used to tell me that the EZLN had a huge following where he lived in south Texas amongst the Mexican immigrants. Most of them echoed the same sentiments regarding NAFTA and the treatment of indigenous and working-class peoples in the country.

I guess it's all about who you talk to.