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Nothing Human Is Alien
7th August 2011, 12:27
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HOUSTON (Reuters) - Texas Governor Rick Perry, expected to enter the Republican race for the White House within weeks, offered a prayer for America on Saturday at a controversial religious rally that put the spotlight on his Christian faith.

Perry, who has made his religious beliefs a big part of his public image, urged an enthusiastic crowd at the seven-hour gathering to pray for President Barack Obama and other U.S. leaders.

"Father, our heart breaks for America," said Perry, who hatched the idea for the rally and brushed off heavy criticism for participating.

"We see discord at home, we see fear in the marketplace, we see anger in the halls of government. As a nation, we have forgotten who made us," Perry said in a prayer offered to a crowd estimated by organizers at more than 30,000 people.

The event was named "The Response" and billed as a day of prayer for a nation in crisis. It also gave Perry a national platform to sharpen his appeal to religious conservatives who play a big role in the Republican nominating race and have been unhappy with the current crop of contenders.

Sponsors of the rally included the American Family Association, whose leaders have condemned gays and Muslims, and the International House of Prayer, founded by an evangelist who warns celebrity Oprah Winfrey is a pastor in a Satan-inspired religion.

It also drew prominent religious conservative leaders such as Focus on the Family head James Dobson and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

Critics condemned the event for excluding non-Christian faiths and blurring the boundary between church and state, as well as affiliating with controversial fringe religious groups and leaders.

"Governor Perry achieved his goal today -- he drove almost every religious right leader and group into his corral," said Reverend Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Perry is poised to enter the 2012 Republican presidential race in the next few weeks. He already has shot into the top tier of contenders in opinion polls.

At the rally in Houston's cavernous 70,000-seat Reliant Stadium, home of the Houston Texans professional football team, Perry discussed his faith, read scripture and said a prayer.

"We know the greatest darkness comes just before the morning," he said in a 12-minute appearance, adding God was wise enough to avoid affiliation with any political party.

"His agenda is not a political agenda. His agenda is a salvation agenda," said Perry, who was criticized for blending politics and religion in launching the prayer rally.

'A CAMPAIGN PROP'

"This isn't the first time we have seen Governor Perry use a religious gathering or house of worship as a campaign prop," said Kathy Miller, executive director of the Texas Freedom Network, a nonpartisan watchdog on far-right religious groups.

Perry closed the event by saying he hoped it would begin a national renewal and "our willingness to stand in the public square" would inspire others to seek God.

The rally had a mix of Christian rock, testimonials and scripture from pastors and children, as well as numerous calls to end abortion but little other overtly political rhetoric.

Participants said they were praying to heal a troubled nation and politics was not their concern. Many in attendance, who came in church buses from throughout the region, praised Perry for leading the effort.

"He was brave enough to stand up and say, 'Hey, we've got to pray for the nation.' He's the governor but he's a Christian man," said Lonnie Lavender, a pastor at the War Cry Prayer Ministry in Venus, Texas.

Eddie Ellis, a delivery service owner in Conroe, Texas, who bused to the event with about 50 parishioners from his church, said Americans needed to "wake up."

"Perry is a politician but he says we've got to pray. He hits the right keys," Ellis said.

Perry invited all of the nation's governors but Republican Sam Brownback of Kansas was the only one to attend. Florida Governor Rick Scott, also a Republican, sent a video message.

The event was broadcast on the Internet to more than 1,000 churches around the country, sponsors said. Organizers draped black curtains behind the stage to hide empty seats, although the crowd was larger than predicted earlier in the week.

Perry's emphasis on his Christian faith could be a drawback in a general election when it could turn off moderates and independents, along with those of non-Christian faiths.

Sasha
7th August 2011, 12:30
yay! another christ crazy texan governor running for president, that worked out so well last time.
how does he ever hope to convince the middle, who damn well know that they are in the mess that they are thanks to bush, that he is in fact not bush mark III

Jimmie Higgins
7th August 2011, 13:23
Maybe that will be our politician's strategy from now on.

"What are you going to do about this or that problem if you are President?"

"Um... hope that a supernatural being does something..."

"What are you going to do about unemployment?"

"Um... close my eyes really tight and wish it away..."


how does he ever hope to convince the middle, who damn well know that they are in the mess that they are thanks to bush, that he is in fact not bush mark IIIA: Obama.

B: And then how does Obama hope to win back the working class, youth, and minority voters who put him over the top and helped him win last time after 4 years of betrayals?

A: Republican Candidate X

punisa
7th August 2011, 15:28
Looks like there will be a serious demand for re-education facilities once the socialism kicks in.
Call me a red monster, but I believe that it's in the interest of our future communities not to have these 30,000 people roaming around.
Believe in whatever God and/or unicorn you wish, but this is simply fundamentalism.

Metacomet
7th August 2011, 15:52
Yes invite a guy who calls the Catholic church "The great whore" that will do wonders with the Hispanics who are going to the majority in the not to distant future. :rolleyes:

jake williams
7th August 2011, 16:02
As a nation, we have forgotten who made us," Perry said in a prayer offered to a crowd estimated by organizers at more than 30,000 people.
That's true in the sense that Americans don't know anything about their own history and these types aren't helping, of course. But yeah, it's pretty disconcerting.

As usual Jimmie Higgins is right though.

It's also interesting for those into this sort of thing that the first I really heard about him as a presidential candidate was from the conspiracy theory types when he went to the Bilderberg meeting.

Rafiq
7th August 2011, 16:08
Yes... Muwhahhahahaa... Pray... Pray all you want and can.. See if your lord will hear you.

Red Commissar
7th August 2011, 19:23
The article makes mention of it, but there were some really shitty people that Perry invited in this prayer-in. It's a political stunt to build up his cred among tea-baggers -starting off at his promulgation long ago that he threatened to have Texas secede from the Union if stimulus money was forced upon him (he actually ended up taking it, but only for infrastructure. Didn't take the parts slotted for unemployment). With out further adieu,

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, one of the backers of the prayer event is fiercely homophobic. He goes on the usual canard that this country has "sacrificed" much for the "[gay]agenda" that will destroy this country. Then he claims gays are actually pawns of the devil acting to destroy the world, and don't know any better.

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Mike Bickle, which NHIA's article mentions about saying Oprah is the anti-christ, is the head of a group called the "International House of Prayer", also goes in homophobic rants. Here is about how gay marriage is actually a ploy to end "real" marriage and is a sign of the end times.

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Another backer, John Benefiel, from the "Heartland Apostolic Prayer Network", goes and says that the Statue of Liberty is in fact a demonic idol, because he says the French use of the statue originates from "Libertas" so it's idolatry of a false goddess.

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Pastor John Hagee, another supporter, says the US is doing poorly because it has tolerated "pagan" beliefs due to its "paganism", and all this bad stuff is happening because god is angry with 'murica. He then says that environmentalism is actually rooted in paganism.

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And so much more. It is so moronic. This next election is going to suck hard, more than usual, considering what candidates will be present. You have a moron like Obama on one hand, and then the Republican on the other who is going to be drawn from this pot of fine folk like Perry and Bachman.

Unfortunately the sight of the nuts in the Republican camp will just draw people to vote for Obama. If Obama wins it'll hardly be due to his own actions in office but because of the candidates he will be facing against. "Lesser Evil" mentality kicks in again.

Tommy4ever
7th August 2011, 20:27
Yes invite a guy who calls the Catholic church "The great whore" that will do wonders with the Hispanics who are going to the majority in the not to distant future. :rolleyes:

Guess again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans

Even with the broad definition Hispanics only make up about 16% of the US population - a comparable figure to the people of German ancestry in America.

Geiseric
7th August 2011, 20:45
Looks like there will be a serious demand for re-education facilities once the socialism kicks in. Call me a red monster, but I believe that it's in the interest of our future communities not to have these 30,000 people roaming around. Believe in whatever God and/or unicorn you wish, but this is simply fundamentalism. These people won't have any support or toleration from a socially minded society, so I think that when the older generation of christians die off, their kids will have seen the truth of how stuff is. It's harder to believe all the shit the church tells you when you're worried about maintaining your mortage.

RadioRaheem84
7th August 2011, 22:06
Yes invite a guy who calls the Catholic church "The great whore" that will do wonders with the Hispanics who are going to the majority in the not to distant future. :rolleyes:

A huge portion of hispanics are turning evangelical protestant. Charismatic really.

Le Socialiste
7th August 2011, 22:20
Everybody has already said what I would say, so this should suffice in explaining my feelings: :scared:

GPDP
7th August 2011, 22:31
As someone who's had to live under the heel of this asshole for over a decade, trust me when I say he's a complete dick.

Le Socialiste
7th August 2011, 22:39
As someone who's had to live under the heel of this asshole for over a decade, trust me when I say he's a complete dick.

He sure sounds like one.

MarxSchmarx
8th August 2011, 03:44
Deliver me.

Sensible Socialist
8th August 2011, 05:45
He's part of the wing of the GOP that would be truly dangerous as a President. Whereas some only make headlines due to their mouths (Palin, Bachmann, etc.), Perry is the type of politician who has such a delusional and psycopathic view of the world that he doesn't care who he hurts in his path. The man is, frankly, insane.