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a rebel
4th August 2011, 01:03
I yahoo searched Che Guevara and this (http://www.conservapedia.com/Che_Guevara) crap was the fourth hit down. The ignorance of the right amazes me....how do people believe this garbage?

Nox
4th August 2011, 01:06
The Right needs to lie to get supporters, this pretty much backs that up

GPDP
4th August 2011, 01:07
It's full of trolls last I heard. Some of it is genuine right-wing fundamentalist USA USA USA nonsense, but a lot of it is just people pretending to be conservative and writing ridiculous crap which, thanks to Poe's Law*, comes off as genuine conservative ignorance.

*Poe's Law states that the ridicule of fundamentalism tends to be very hard to distinguish from the real thing, due to the inanity inherent in fundamentalist rhetoric.

Tim Finnegan
4th August 2011, 01:09
Conservapedia really is the best. It's like a political version of Uncylcopedia, only less coherent.

Nox
4th August 2011, 01:12
This one is the best:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Communist

Nox
4th August 2011, 01:18
LOL, ignore my last post.

This is the most hilarious article I've ever seen: http://www.conservapedia.com/Vietnam_war


The US responded with a massive bombing campaign called Operation Rolling Thunder. Although a swift victory over North Vietnam would have taken a matter of months, the risk of Chinese intervention was considered too great to accept

Sasha
4th August 2011, 01:20
Q: Anyone heard of conservapedia?

A: no, lets keep it that way

Tim Finnegan
4th August 2011, 01:22
http://www.conservapedia.com/Class_war



See also



Envy (http://www.conservapedia.com/Envy)


:laugh:

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 01:26
Ernesto "Che" Guevara (b. June 14, 1928, executed October 9th, 1967) was a sadistic Marxist guerrilla leader, with Fidel Castro, during the Cuban "Rob"olution and became a cultural icon for liberals, leftists, socialists, communists, illegal aliens[1], and white "hipsters".[2] The photogenic "Ernesto Guevara failed spectacularly at everything he attempted in his life--except at the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys."[3] Despite being an terrorist, his image is still used as leftist propaganda which adorns millions of t-shirts and dorm room posters.

Yeah lets just throw objectivity out the window here on an article that is supposed to be informative. Obviously the right has 0 Scientists on their side.

I mean god can they have any more unsubstantiated, and definitionally vague statements in that opening line?

Edit: oh shit did I just sign up on conservapedia? yup, did I just delete the Che page and replace it with the wikipedia page? yup.

Edit: wow, page died, apparently conservapedia can't take the truth!

Susurrus
4th August 2011, 01:32
The writer of Conservapedia:

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Susurrus
4th August 2011, 01:34
Oh dear god it's not a parody: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

The Dark Side of the Moon
4th August 2011, 01:36
Look at their article on capitalism

Capitalism and Society



Ludwig von Mises
Historically, capitalism has fostered freedom and an increase in the standard of living and human rights, and vice versa. Societies that have tried non-capitalist systems inevitably fall into tyranny.
For example, Venezuela, while not a perfect country before Hugo Chavez, had freedom and wealth unprecedented in its history. As Chavez has nationalized industries, he has also centralized power for himself, becoming a dictator.
Capitalist societies also generally have higher standards of living compared to their non-capitalist counterparts in terms of per capita GDP, education, healthcare, and poverty rates. China, for instance, has been growing extremely prosperous since it began opening its economy to capitalism in the 1980s.

Tim Finnegan
4th August 2011, 01:38
Oh dear god it's not a parody: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia
You didn't realise? Then you are going to loooooove the Conservative Bible Project. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Bible_Project#Conservative_Bible_Proj ect) :D

Manic Impressive
4th August 2011, 01:39
Q: Anyone heard of conservapedia?

A: no, lets keep it that way
Thread closed? moved to chit chat?

The Dark Side of the Moon
4th August 2011, 01:40
And here is their whole page on communism, over triple the size of capitialism

Communism is a left-wing materialistic and violently atheistic ideology created to justify the overthrow of Capitalism, replacing free market economics and democracy with a "dictatorship of the proletariat". Under Communism, the political system replaces the private ownership of the means of production with "collective ownership" of the economy, this is to be accomplished through direct "democratic" control by the workers.[1] Twentieth century Communism was based on Karl Marx's manifesto which proposed to establishment of a "classless society." However, all Communist societies have had a class structure, notably the USSR, which was dominated by a self appointed Nomenklatura.
In the belief that "people cannot change", governments under the banner of Communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40 million to 260 million human lives.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that it caused the death of approximately 148,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.[8]
President Ronald Reagan in an address before the British House of Commons said,
“ What I am describing now is a plan and hope for the long term -- the march of freedom and democracy which will leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history as it has left other tyrannies which stifle the freedom and muzzle the self-expression of the people.[9] ”
Today, communism continues to rule over at least one-fifth of the world's people.[10]
Contents [hide]
1 Communist Theory and Practice
2 Communism and militant atheism
3 Atrocities and Repression
4 Similarities between Communism, Nazism and liberalism
5 Communists cite scripture
6 Cummunisms shared totalitarian ideals with facism and nazism
7 Cuban communism
8 Asian communism
9 Collapse of the Soviet bloc
10 American communism
11 Notorious communists
12 Further reading
13 See also
14 Notes and references
15 External links

Communist Theory and Practice



A monument to the Captive Nations stands at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington, D.C.
Communism is based upon Marxism, a philosophy which uses materialism to explain all physical and social phenomena. The theory of evolution influenced the thinking of the Communists, including Marx, Engels, Vladimir Lenin, and Joseph Stalin.[11] Marx wrote, "Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural science for the class struggle in history." Marx offered to dedicate the second German edition of his polemic "Das Kapital" to Charles Darwin, but Darwin declined the "honour." [12] [13]
Economically, communism advocates a socialist economy in which the government owns the means of production. In countries where communism has been imposed, the government has taken ownership of farms, factories, stores and so on in the name of the people; see "dictatorship of the proletariat". This drives all market-based economic activity underground and leads to inefficiencies and shortages. In both the Soviet Union and Red China, the number of people who starved to death when the government confiscated their farm products (animals and grain) is estimated in the tens of millions.
Even more important, one party controls every organization from the local labor union to the the army to the national government. The party is not elected. Its top officials (the "Politburo") select replacements when there is a vacancy. usually a dictator (like Stalin, Mao or Castro) controls the Politburo, but sometimes power is shared among five or six people. No dissent is allowed--all news media are controlled, and the Internet is heavily censored.
Elites do not disappear. Members of the ruling party (see Nomenklatura) have special stores in which ordinary people are barred, stores which are allegedly immune to the shortages which the lower class must endure.
Various communist doctrines have evolved or been adapted to the time and place they have been implemented. Marxism, developed by Karl Marx, and its modifications under Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong, advocates the overthrow of the existing order by a revolution of the proletariat, the social group which does not control the means of production. The goal of Marxism is supposedly to create a classless society which would result in no longer the need for any government (Communism).
The most famous government to label itself "communist" is the former USSR or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; the Communist Party controlled its government from 1918 to 1991. This government was officially atheist and attempted to suppress all religion until World War II, when it discovered religion was needed to rally the people against the Nazi invaders. Like all authoritarian regimes, it tried to cultivate reverence for the state as a psychological substitute for religion.
Marxist theory is intended to appeal to its adherents with the phrase, "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs", which essentially states point blank a worker does not get paid according to his abilities, and there is no incentive within the economic theory. Another quote by Marx was, "The theory of the Communism may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property," or as some have phrased it, legalized theft.
Communism and militant atheism

See also: Atheism and communism
Karl Marx established atheism as a key part of communism. He famously said, "Religion ... is the opium of the masses."[14] He believed it was part of the "superstructure," a false culture built to maintain the status quo. Thus he denigrated Christianity as a fictional religion. Instead, Marx was an avowed atheist, as he wrote, "Communism begins from the outset with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction."[15]
Vladimir Lenin similarly wrote: "A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."[16]
In 1955, Chinese communist leader Chou En-lai declared, "We Communists are atheists".[17]
The atheism in communist regimes has been and continues to be militant atheism and various acts of repression including the razing of thousands of religious buildings and the killing, imprisoning, and oppression of religious leaders and believers.[18][19][20][21][22][23][24]
Marxists justification for its persecution of the Russian Orthodox Church was based upon the claim that the Church was a "willing tool of Tsarism."[25]
The clergy openly stated its support for the counter-revolution (White Revolution). Lenin proclaimed that a communist regime must show itself to be merciless toward the question of religion. There was no place for the church in Lenin's regime. This led to anti-religious decrees and propaganda. All church property was expropriated by the new Soviet government. [26]
During the late 1930's and later 1940's the restrictions on church activity were loosened as Stalin needed all the support he could get for the war. This doctrine of co-operation between the church and state continued through out the existence of the Soviet republics and the other Warszawa pact nations. Though never going as far as a leader of the Soviet Union asking god to bless the country the clause in the Soviet Unions constitution addressing the separation of church and state was rendered useless.
Dr. Martin Luther King said, "for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything - force, violence, murder, lying - is a justifiable means." [27]


Exhumed skeletons of class war victims murdered by communists.[28] Apologists maintain communism has never really been tried.
Atrocities and Repression

Communist regimes have engaged in mass killings on a scale of millions of individuals.[29] A work entitled The Black Book of Communism published by the Harvard Press focuses on the crimes, terror, and repression of modern communist regimes over a 70 year period.[30] This book is fairly controversial partly due to the various estimates regarding the millions of people who died under communist regimes.[31][32][33] [34][35]
Similarly, a influential book which concerns itself with Russian communist torture, repression and atrocities is Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago which won Solzhenitsyn a Nobel Prize.[36] In 1983, Alexander Solzhenitsyn in which he gave his explanation of the cause of why millions of people died under Russian communism:
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened. Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened. ”
In communist North Korea, abuse and killing in prison camps is occurring today.[37][38] In addition, the North Korean government practices brutal repression and atrocities against North Korean Christians.[39][40]
In 1999, the publication Christian Century reported that "China has persecuted religious believers by means of "harassment, prolonged detention, and incarceration in prison or `reform-through-labor' camps and police closure of places of worship."[41] In 2003, owners of Bibles in China were sent to prison camps and 125 Chinese churches were closed.[42] China continues to practice religious oppression today.[43]
Similarities between Communism, Nazism and liberalism

See also: Similarities between Communism, Nazism and liberalism
Communist Manifesto Nazi Party Platform Analysis
1 "Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes." "We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land." The stripping away of land from private owners. Liberalism today demands "eminent domain" on property.
2 "A heavy progressive or graduated income tax." "We demand the nationalization of all trusts...profit-sharing in large industries...a generous increase in old-age pensions...by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor...and the creation of a national (folk) army." The points raised in the Nazi platform demand an increase in taxes to support them. Liberalism today demands heavy progressive and graduated income taxes.
3 "Abolition of all rights of inheritance." "That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished." Liberalism today demands a "death tax" on anyone inheriting an estate.
4 "Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels." "We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately." The Nuremburg Laws of 1934 allowed Germany to take Jewish property.
5 "Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly." "We demand the nationalization of all trusts." Central control of the financial system.
6 "Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State." "We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press...editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens...Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State...the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper..." Central control of the press. Liberals today demand control or suppression of talk radio and Fox News.
7 "Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c." "In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State. " Central control of education, with an emphasis on doing things their way. Liberals today are doing things their way in our schools.
Communists cite scripture

Some Communist ideology has made its way into the Church as a Social Gospel, interpreting the Gospel as less redemptive of sin and more of a public works campaign and activism. They often cite Jesus feeding the masses and warnings to the wealthy who believed self-seeking is all this world has to offer. Communists often cite the Acts of the Apostles, as early Christians practicing some form of sharing for the common good:
“ And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (Acts 2:44-45, KJV)
Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.(Acts 4:34-7, KJV)

But as Arnold Toynbee has pointed out, this Marxist view denies the most crucial points,
“ The passage in the Acts represents the philanthropy of the primitive Christian Society as flowing from a God-given grace which was the fruit of a belief in the divinity of Jesus. In other words, the charity which is here depicted as moving the primitive Christians to go—in their mutual concern for one another's welfare—to the extreme length of sharing all their worldly goods is not a mere love of Man for Man (which is the limited literal meaning of the word ‘philanthropy’), but is a spiritual relation to which God is a party as well as His human creatures. In fact, this Christian Socialism is a practical application, on the economic surface of life, of the fundamental religious truth that the brotherhood of man is a consequence of the fatherhood of God - a truth which is driven home with special force by a religion which teaches that God is not only the Father and Creator of man, but also his Savior, Who has been incarnate in human shape and has suffered, and triumphed over, death.[44] ”
Cummunisms shared totalitarian ideals with facism and nazism

Adolf Hitler noted that Communists made excellent converts to Nazism, because the same personality type was attracted to both. "[T]here is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."[45] Josef Stalin also recognized that ex-Nazis and ex-fascists were natural recruits for post-war Communist regimes. As Stanley Payne notes in his A History of Fascism: 1914-1945, "All over Soviet-occupied eastern Europe, most rank-and-file former fascist party members, together with many lower-level leaders, were welcomed to fill the ranks of the initially exiguous local Communist parties. The psychological transition seems to have been an easy one, for obvious reasons."[46]
Cuban communism

Cuba remains a communist state controlled by the Castro brothers since 1960 and under U.S economic sanctions.
Asian communism

The CCP in China retains an autocratic regime controlled by the Communist party, which allows no democracy or dissent. However it does allow capitalism, and has experienced a very rapid growth of the private sector and the middle class. Observers expect that the regime's efforts to control public opinion and forestall the will of the people will be more and more difficult.
North Korea remains a brutal dictatorship controlled by the same family. Laos, and Vietnam are also run by the old Communist cliques.
Collapse of the Soviet bloc

The shooting down by the Soviets on Sept. 1, 1983 of Korean Airlines Flight 007 may have been a contributing factor for the downfall of the Soviet Union as well as for the whole Soviet block. It being a catalyst for the collapse of the Soviet Union may be inferred from the fact that NATO had decided, under the impetus of the U.S. administration, to deploy Pershing II and cruise missiles in Europe, primarily West Germany. This deployment would have placed missiles just 6-10 minutes striking distance from Moscow. But support for the deployment was wavering and many doubted that the missile deployment would find enough support to effect it. When the Soviet Union shot down Flight 007 with 269 people aboard, including conservative Democratic Congressman Larry McDonald —an act which U.S. President Ronald Reagan characterized as a "massacre"—enough support was galvanized for the deployment. The deployment caused great resources of the Soviet Union to be diverted from inner economic use to military expenditures to counter the U.S. and NATO missile deployment. Between 1989 and 1991, many communist governments fell. The Berlin Wall in Germany, which had become a symbol for the division between the West and communist states, was torn down largely in response to Ronald Reagan in 1989, and there was also a large revolution against Romanian dictator Nicolaie Ceausescu. In 1991, the USSR broke up into several countries - each which reformed to capitalism. Some of these remained under autocratic governments, but some have embraced democracy. With the collapse the remnants of Communist parties have dropped their old names and ideologies, but still operate on the left of the political spectrum.
American communism

Main article*: Committees of Correspondence
With the collapse of Soviet communism and the conversion of Chinese communism to "state run capitalism," the spiritual and ideological center of world of communism and the Marxist-Leninist tradition shifted to the United States. Several prominent American communists, rudderless without Moscow direction, formed a new organization in 1992 called the Committees of Correspondence for Democratic Socialism.
The initial organizational conference was held in Berkeley, California, July 17-19, 1992. Charlene Mitchell, a former leader of the California Communist Party, speaking at the conference said, "the collapse of socialism in Eastern Europe left the United States in a near unchallenged position of world leadership." Mitchell continued,
“ What began as a moment to take stock and ponder where to go from there has now become a very different entity. People from the Communist Party, from CrossRoads, from the Democratic Socialists of America, from NCIPA [National Committee for Independent Political Action], from Solidarity, from the Socialist Organizing Network and many others, including independent leftists and independent socialists, have come together here in Berkeley. ”
Criticizing U.S. actions in the First Gulf War, Mitchell stated,
“ progressive forces were nearly powerless in the face of an onslaught of demagogic, patriotic jingoism and yellow ribbons. This war, fought for no legitimate reason, was the crowning height of President [George H.W.] Bush's New World Order. Previously, the Soviet Union helped to provide a certain balance to rein in the crazies in this country. Now, that balance is no longer there. It is now up to us, the American people, to rein in our own crazies. The left must take a major responsibility in organizing this task. ”
Notorious communists

Well known communists include:
William Ayers
Fidel Castro
Hugo Chavez
Carl Davidson
Frank Marshall Davis
Bernardine Dohrn
Friedrich Engels
Che Guevara
Van Jones
Kim Jong Il
Lazar Kaganovich
Vladimir Lenin
Mao Zedong
Karl Marx
Ho Chi Minh
Pol Pot
Paul Robeson
Joseph Stalin
Yakov Sverdlov
Leon Trotsky
Genrikh Yagoda
Yakov Yurovsky
Salvador Allende
Further reading

Pipes, Richard. Communism: A History (2003), by a leading conservative historian
Pipes, Richard. History of Communism: A Brief History (2002)
Priestland, David. The Red Flag: A History of Communism (2009)
100 Things You Should Know About Communism
See also

Communist Party of the United States of America
Cold War
Capitalism
Iron Curtain
Progressives for Obama
Socialism
Social Effects of the Theory of Evolution
Korean Airlines Flight 007 for the connection of the shootdown by the Soviets of KAL 007, with 269 people aboard, on Sept. 1, 1983 with the heightened U.S./Soviet confrontations of 1983-4.
The Soviet/ U.S naval confrontation over KAL 007
KAL 007 and the Soviet Top Secret Memos
Notes and references

↑ http://www.marxists.org/archive/mandel/1968/11/workersdem.htm
↑ The Black Book of Communism
↑ The Black Book of Communism
↑ http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM
↑ Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century Hemoclysm
↑ Memory and Ideology
↑ The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression
↑ http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
↑ President Ronald Reagan Speech to the British Parliament, June 8, 1982. Retrieved from International Republican Institute 05/24/07.
↑ Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, Documenting Communism's Crimes Against Humanity.
↑ http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=276
↑ http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=276
↑ Karl Marx's Social and Political Thought, Bob Jessop, ISBN 0415193265 (pg 476)
↑ Marx, K. Introduction to A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right (Classic Quotations) (Standard translation from the original German).
↑ Marx, Karl, Private Property and Communism, 1944.
↑ Lenin, Vladimir Ilyich, Proletary, No. 45, May 13 (26), 1909, translated by Andrew Rothstein and Bernard Issacs, quote from [1].
↑ Noebel, David, The Battle for Truth, Harvest House, 2001.
↑ http://www.academia.org/campus_reports/2000/March_2000_4.html
↑ http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/frroman1.aspx
↑ http://www.nysun.com/article/23082?page_no=1
↑ http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/7/120250.shtml
↑ http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_26_116/ai_56249447
↑ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35818
↑ http://theworldnow.wordpress.com/tag/around-the-world/asia/china/
↑ http://www.marxist.com/religion-soviet-union170406-6.htm
↑ http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-42047/Union-of-Soviet-Socialist-Republics#277888.hook
↑ Stride Toward Freedom*: The Montgomery Story, Martin Luther King, Jr., Harper and Rowe, New York, 1958, p. 92.
↑ [http://www.mega.nu/ampp/rummel/rm1.stalin.kill.htm.
↑ http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/museum/comfaq.htm#part3
↑ http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/COUBLA.html
↑ http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/finalconflict/fcrevb102.html
↑ http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hpcws/lelivrenoir.htm
↑ http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm
↑ http://www.sarasotamagazine.com/blog/template_permalink.asp?id=365
↑ http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=2526
↑ http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/03/01/home/solz-gulag.html
↑ http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5596
↑ http://www.kimsoft.com/korea/nkdefec3.htm
↑ http://www.nysun.com/article/23082?page_no=1
↑ http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/7/120250.shtml
↑ http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_26_116/ai_56249447
↑ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35818
↑ http://theworldnow.wordpress.com/tag/around-the-world/asia/china/
↑ Arnold Toynbee, A Study of History, Annex II to Vol. V, Part C (i) (c) 2, p. 585, Marxism, Socialism, and Christianity.
↑ quoted in Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks
↑ http://www.lietuvos.org/istorija/communism/

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 01:41
Look at their article on capitalism

OMG, This is almost scary that there are people out there that believe this shit. Particularily scary is how they equate socialists and NAZI germany. Sheesh you'd think with associations like that they'd be all for socialism.

Susurrus
4th August 2011, 01:41
You didn't realise? Then you are going to loooooove the Conservative Bible Project. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Bible_Project#Conservative_Bible_Proj ect) :D

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Manic Impressive
4th August 2011, 01:44
verbal warnings for spam perhaps?

AnonymousOne
4th August 2011, 01:47
Their article on Anarchism is surprisingly tame. http://www.conservapedia.com/Anarchism

The Dark Side of the Moon
4th August 2011, 01:49
Oh yOu will love this:
The creator of the wiki is Andrew Layton "Adolf Hitler" Schlafly

The Dark Side of the Moon
4th August 2011, 01:56
Their article on Anarchism is surprisingly tame. http://www.conservapedia.com/Anarchism

That is suprising

Tim Finnegan
4th August 2011, 01:59
verbal warnings for spam perhaps?
I don't think that the mods here could give verbal warnings to Conservapedia editors even if they wanted to. :sleep:

BostonCharlie
4th August 2011, 02:03
A very strange site. Their article on the Guatemalan christofascist dictator Efraín_Ríos_Montt - much beloved by Ronald Reagan and Pat Robertson on account of his mass murder of indigenous people - is amazingly accurate.



Ríos Montt received part of his military education at the School of the Americas and participated in the 1954 coup against social democratic president Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán. In 1974 he ran for presidency supported by a coalition led by the centrist Guatemalan Christian Democratic Party, but lost to the 'official' rightwing military candidate Kjell Eugenio Laugerud García, probably after the military rigged the election.
Ríos Montt left the Roman Catholic Church in 1978 and joined the Pentecostal Church of the Word, based in California, for which he became a minister. During a visit to the United States he befriended rightwing televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
Ríos Montt rose to power in March 1982 after leading a coup against outgoing president Fernando Romeo Lucas García after another rigged election. Initially he ruled together with two other generals, but he quickly pushed them aside and became the sole ruler of Guatemala, with the fuctions of President, Secretary of Defense and Commander of the Armed forces. Ríos Montt became the first protestant ruler of any Latin American country.
Ríos Montt embarked on the most brutal counterinsurgency campaign in modern Latin American history. A stage of siege was declared and constitutional rights suspended. The Guatemalan army applied scorched earth tactics in its war against the guerrilla fighters of the Guatemalan National Revolutionary Unity (URNG). Mayan peasants were forced to join 'self defence batallions' and to kill other Mayans suspected of supporting the URNG. Dozens of villages were completely exterminated, Dos Erres and Plan de Sánchez being the most notorious examples. The Guatemalan Army was noted for its brutality: during their massacres they forced men into a large house which was then put on fire, women and girls were routinely raped before being shot and children were murdered by bashing their heads against rocks. Other Mayans were rounded up and forced to work in 'model villages', in reality concentration camps. The Historical Clarification Commission of the 1990's, supported by the United Nations and the Catholic Church, called Ríos Montts campaign a deliberate genocide against the Mayan population. Leftists, priests supporting the liberation theology and German landowners were also targetted. In 1983 the URNG was seriously weakened although the war would continue to rage on until 1996. The campaign had claimed 10,000 to 75,000 lives, hundreds of thousands of Guatemalans had fled to Mexico and millions were displaced inside the country.
As his army was ravaging the country Ríos Montt was often seen on television giving protestant sermons. In the first weeks of his rule Pat Robertson was invited to Guatemala, and Robertson also defended the Guatemalan dictator in his own television program. Ríos Montt often invoked his religious beliefs when justifying his terror campaign, comparing the 'four plagues of Guatemala', corruption, subversy, ignorance and hunger with the four horsemen of the apocalypse, and said that "true Christians should live with the Bible in one hand and a gun in the other". Guatemala under Ríos Montt was shunned by most countries, except the United States, Taiwan and El Salvador.

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 02:05
I don't think that the mods here could give verbal warnings to Conservapedia editors even if they wanted to. :sleep:

No, there is no editing I tried to do that tonight, the whole site is a conservative soap box for a couple of the creators.

Rocky Rococo
4th August 2011, 02:09
The list of "notorious communists" cracks me up. Carl Davidson = Pol Pot ROFL.

Red Commissar
4th August 2011, 02:23
A user mentioned this earlier, but the founder of this site is Andrew Schlafly, the son of Phyllis Schlafly, icon of the right in the 1980s for her role in sinking the ERA.

Schlafly made the site to address the ever so-popular accusation of "liberal" bias in wikipedia, and to serve as a website for homeschooling operations around the country to get "reliable" information. For fun, why don't you check the length of the "God" article compared to Ronald Reagan.

And as such we pretty much get textbook wingnut shit in the site. Because of Schlafly's vocal opinions, his inflated sense of importance of the site (for an example of this, check out this dialog (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Lenski_dialog), and the utter nonsense in the site in general, it became a popular target for trolls. Some mess up and screw up the site, others contribute in the vein of trolling we see with the Landover Baptist Church forums where they post in such a way that they basically mock what the serious users genuinely believe in.

We've seen some other projects like this though that aren't as targetted by trolls. One example that comes to mind is "Metapedia", which is a similar concept taken up by far-right wing nationalist wackjobs and fascists which I view as far more troubling than conservapedia on account of the latter being bombarded by trolls.

As for why it would come up high in google searches, there are ways sites can push themselves up to the top. For something along those lines, search "Martin Luther King" on google. The fourth result on the first page says "Martin Luther King Jr. - A True Historical Examination", which is a hateful site hosted by stormfront posed as a tool for students looking for info on MLK.

wunderbar
4th August 2011, 02:35
Today, the radical un-patriotic IWW still attempts to undermine American businesses by agitating their employees around grievances. For example, in New York City and elsewhere, IWW agitators have successfully created a "union" of Starbucks employees in an effort to bring the Starbucks company to its knees. Additionally, open-border pro-Mexican IWW's have caused trouble for Jimmy John's sandwich company. Having started a Jimmy John's workers "union" in Minneapolis, IWWs insist on attacking Jimmy John's for its support of conservative values, such as Arizona's courageous new law against illegals. (http://www.conservapedia.com/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World)

Won't someone think of the poor multi-national corporations?!


Commies still dominate the modern IWW but anarchist punk rock youth have brought a new resurgence, making the violent IWW grow considerably in recent years.

"Commie" is totally an encyclopedic term.

CHE with an AK
4th August 2011, 02:43
Their article on Anarchism is surprisingly tame. http://www.conservapedia.com/Anarchism

That is because dumb American right-wingers think Anarchism is on the far right politically - as they believe the spectrum goes from


L Stalin/Mao -- Hitler -- Lenin -- FDR -- George W. Bush -- Ronald Reagan -- George Washington -- Anarchism R

... and usually favor something between Reagan and Washington. They see everything as "more" vs "less" government and thus in their view more or less "liberty" (their favorite buzzword).

Susurrus
4th August 2011, 02:48
Washington was a Federalist, IE a supporter of strong government.

CHE with an AK
4th August 2011, 03:40
Washington was a Federalist, IE a supporter of strong government.
Of course he was ... but they follow the history of Glenn Beck, which paints George Washington as some right-libertarian who only wanted government to field a military and build roads.

Unfortunately, I have battled these morons for years and come to know how they think.

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 04:34
That is because dumb American right-wingers think Anarchism is on the far right politically - as they believe the spectrum goes from


L Stalin/Mao -- Hitler -- Lenin -- FDR -- George W. Bush -- Ronald Reagan -- George Washington -- Anarchism R

... and usually favor something between Reagan and Washington. They see everything as "more" vs "less" government and thus in their view more or less "liberty" (their favorite buzzword).

Um. I think that logic train derailed somewhere between the junction of ignorance and bliss.

CHE with an AK
4th August 2011, 05:09
Um. I think that logic train derailed
Unfortunately the American right believes that as government increases, liberty decreases ...


Note the moronic words of the War Criminal in a diaper
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Making matters worse, former soap and nuclear missile salesmen Ronald Reagan was successfully sold as a kind of grandfatherly Marlboro Man. And his fantasy-prone hagiographers still believe, by some cryptic act of telegenic alchemy, that he brought down the Soviet Union somehow, by simply reading a teleprompter.

Susurrus
4th August 2011, 05:13
"Mr. Krushchev, tear down this wall!"
"Oh, is that what you fellows were all worked up about? Sure thing, I'll dispatch the work crews tomorrow. Glad we got that sorted out."

Pretty Flaco
4th August 2011, 06:09
they get all foamy moathed about abstinence
http://www.conservapedia.com/Abstinence

PREMARITAL SEX IS PART OF THE LIBERAL BIAS

CommunityBeliever
4th August 2011, 06:51
Thanks to this site I have lost all faith in humanity.

Weezer
4th August 2011, 06:57
Their article on Anarchism is surprisingly tame. http://www.conservapedia.com/Anarchism

No section on Anarcho-Communism, not surprisingly. :rolleyes:

The Dark Side of the Moon
4th August 2011, 14:34
look at the article on atheism:

Atheism and communism (http://conservapedia.com/Communism)

see also: Atheism and communism (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_communism) and Militant atheism (http://conservapedia.com/Militant_atheism)
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Vladimir Lenin (http://conservapedia.com/Vladimir_Lenin)


Karl Marx (http://conservapedia.com/Karl_Marx) said "[Religion] is the opium of the people". Marx also stated: "Communism (http://conservapedia.com/Communism) begins from the outset (Owen) with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction."[39] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-38)
Vladimir Lenin (http://conservapedia.com/Vladimir_Lenin) similarly wrote regarding atheism and communism: "A Marxist must be a materialist (http://conservapedia.com/Materialism), i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle (http://conservapedia.com/Class_struggle) which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."[40] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-39)
The atheism in communist (http://conservapedia.com/Communism) regimes has been and continues to be militant atheism (http://conservapedia.com/Militant_atheism) and various acts of repression including the razing of thousands of religious buildings and the killing, imprisoning, and oppression of religious leaders and believers.[41] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-40) In the atheistic and communist Soviet Union, 44 anti religious museums were opened and the largest was the 'The Museum of the History of Religion and Atheism' in Leningrad (http://conservapedia.com/Leningrad)’s Kazan cathedral.[42] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-41) Despite intense effort by the atheistic leaders of the Soviet Union, their efforts were not effective in converting the masses to atheism.[43] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-42)[44] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-43)
China (http://conservapedia.com/China) is a communist country. In 1999, the publication Christian Century (http://conservapedia.com/Christian_Century) reported that "China (http://conservapedia.com/China) has persecuted religious believers by means of harassment, prolonged detention, and incarceration in prison or `reform-through-labor' camps and police closure of places of worship." In 2003, owners of Bibles (http://conservapedia.com/Bible) in China were sent to prison camps and 125 Chinese churches were closed.[45] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-44) China continues to practice religious oppression today.[46] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-45) According to Asian Economic News, in 2004 the atheistic and communist government of China (http://conservapedia.com/China) had an internal document which directed the Chinese media to promote atheism, instructed internet media to remove user comments that advocate alternative spiritual views, and called for a ban on publications that disseminate religious material out of step with Marxism or atheism.[47] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-46) The efforts of China's atheist leaders in promoting atheism, however, is increasingly losing its effectiveness and the number of Christians (http://conservapedia.com/Christianity) in China is explosively growing.[48] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-47)[49] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-48) China's state sponsored atheism and atheistic indoctrination has been a failure and a 2007 religious survey in China indicated that only 15% of Chinese identified themselves as atheists.[50] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-49)
North Korea (http://conservapedia.com/North_Korea) is a repressive communist state and is officially atheistic.[51] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-50) The North Korean government practices brutal repression and atrocities against North Korean Christians (http://conservapedia.com/Christianity).[52] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-51)[53] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-52)
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Trofim Denisovich Lysenko (http://conservapedia.com/Trofim_Denisovich_Lysenko)


It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives.[54] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-53) Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.[55] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-54) Richard Dawkins (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins) has attempted to engage in historical revisionism concerning atheist atrocities and Dawkins was shown to be in gross error (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins,_atheists_atrocities,_and_historic al_revisionism).
The theory of evolution (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) played a prominent role in regards to atheistic communism.[56] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-55)[57] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-56) Communists, in particular Stalinists (http://conservapedia.com/Stalinism), favored a version of Lamarckism (http://conservapedia.com/Lamarckism) called Lysenkoism (http://conservapedia.com/Lysenkoism) developed by the atheist Trofim Denisovich Lysenko (http://conservapedia.com/Trofim_Denisovich_Lysenko).[58] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-Lysenkoism-57) Lysenko was made member of the Supreme Soviet (http://conservapedia.com/Soviet_Union) and head of the Institute of Genetics of the Soviet Academy of Sciences (http://conservapedia.com/Soviet_Academy_of_Sciences).[59] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-bb-58) Later Lysenko became President of the All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences.[59] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-bb-58) Many geneticists (http://conservapedia.com/Genetics) were imprisoned and executed for their bourgeois science, and agricultural policies based on Lysenkoism that were adopted under Stalin and Mao caused famines and the death of millions.[58] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-Lysenkoism-57)
Dr. Carl Wieland (http://conservapedia.com/Carl_Wieland), Managing Director of Creation Ministries International (http://conservapedia.com/Creation_Ministries_International), published an article entitled The blood-stained ‘century of evolution’ which declared:
“ Communism also took evolution to its logical conclusion. If everything just evolved from ‘natural law,’ then man’s opinion, not God’s Word, determines what is right and wrong. If the working class can take power by armed struggle, then this is ‘right,’ regardless of how many must die to bring in the socialist paradise. Communism’s death toll far outranks the Nazis (http://conservapedia.com/Nazis)’—probably more than 90 million worldwide.3 http://conservapedia.com/images/3/30/Carl_wieland.jpg (http://conservapedia.com/File:Carl_wieland.jpg) http://conservapedia.com/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://conservapedia.com/File:Carl_wieland.jpg)
Dr. Carl Wieland (http://conservapedia.com/Carl_Wieland)


Some have suggested that the bloodthirsty deeds of Stalin were an ‘aberration’ from the revolution’s ideals. However, it was Lenin, the ‘father’ of the Russian revolution (http://conservapedia.com/October_Revolution), who ‘perfected the science of mass killings,’ and total, merciless brutality as the ultimate method of political control. Evolution (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) was the chief tool used to brainwash communism’s masses into ‘scientific atheism.’ If everything just evolved, then everything is at the whim of the most powerful, and there is no Maker to whom to be answerable. Hence Stalin’s belief that killing millions of people was no worse than mowing your lawn (grass is our cousin in evolutionary doctrine).
Mao’s reign of terror and lies resulted in the deaths of tens of millions. It is no coincidence that his two favorite books were by the evolutionists Darwin and Huxley (http://conservapedia.com/T._H._Huxley). With millions dying from his forced famine, his physician records that Mao said, ‘We have so many people we can afford to lose a few.’ His successors have since persecuted and killed hundreds of thousands more.[60] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-59)
” Criticism of atheism

See also: Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian (http://conservapedia.com/Resources_for_leaving_atheism_and_becoming_a_Chris tian) and Christian apologetics (http://conservapedia.com/Christian_apologetics)
Commonly Cited Arguments Against Atheism and For Theism

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Anselm of Canterbury (http://conservapedia.com/Anselm_of_Canterbury)'s version of the ontological argument (http://conservapedia.com/Ontological_argument) appeared in his work Proslogium.


In relation to the debate between theism and atheism, theists often criticize atheism as being contrary to persuasive argument and have a number of arguments against atheism. Arguments for the existence of God (http://conservapedia.com/Arguments_for_the_existence_of_God) include:


Teleological argument (http://conservapedia.com/Teleological_argument): The universe exhibits overwhelming evidence of deliberate, intelligent, purposeful design, which implies an intelligent designer (http://conservapedia.com/Intelligent_design)
Bible prophecy (http://conservapedia.com/Bible_prophecy)
Cosmological argument (http://conservapedia.com/Cosmological_argument): Every event in our universe (http://conservapedia.com/Universe) necessarily has a cause. However, it is impossible that there should be an unending chain of causes going back. Therefore, there necessarily must be a cause distinct from the universe as we know it which is capable of causing all things and is itself uncaused. Atheism denies that that first cause (http://conservapedia.com/First_Cause) is God.
Ontological argument (http://conservapedia.com/Ontological_argument): According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, "Ontological arguments are arguments, for the conclusion that God exists, from premises which are supposed to derive from some source other than observation of the world — e.g., from reason alone."[61] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-60)
Historical arguments for the existence of God. For example, arguments stemming from historical accounts such as Christian historical apologetics (http://conservapedia.com/Christian_apologetics), Christian legal apologetics (http://conservapedia.com/Christian_Legal_Apologetics) and archaeological evidence such as Bible archaeology (http://conservapedia.com/Bible_Archaeology);
Experiential arguments for the existence of God: Arguments based on personal experience and human intuition. According to philosopher Alvin Plantinga (http://conservapedia.com/Alvin_Plantinga) belief in the existence of God exists is a "properly basic" belief and not based on inference from other beliefs but is rationally justified due to one's circumstances of immediate experience of God.[62] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-61)
Presuppositional Apologetics (http://conservapedia.com/Presuppositional_Apologetics)
Christian apologists Peter Kreeft & Ronald K. Tacelli have published Twenty Arguments For The Existence Of God[63] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-62)
Argument from beauty (http://conservapedia.com/Argument_from_beauty)[64] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-63)
Bible scientific foreknowledge (http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge)
Various Christian apologetic resources focusing on atheism (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_website_resources)
Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian (http://conservapedia.com/Resources_for_leaving_atheism_and_becoming_a_Chris tian)

Atheism and mass murder

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Joseph Stalin (http://conservapedia.com/Joseph_Stalin)'s atheistic regime killed tens of millions of people.


See articles: Atheism and Mass Murder (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder) and Atheism and communism (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_communism) Christian apologist Gregory Koukl wrote relative to atheism and mass murder (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder) that "the assertion is that religion has caused most of the killing and bloodshed in the world. There are people who make accusations and assertions that are empirically false. This is one of them."[65] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-Koukl-64) Koukl details the number of people killed in various events involving theism and compares them to the much higher tens of millions of people killed under regimes which advocated atheism.[65] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-Koukl-64) As noted earlier, Richard Dawkins (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins) has attempted to engage in historical revisionism concerning atheist atrocities and Dawkins was shown to be in gross error (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins,_atheists_atrocities,_and_historic al_revisionism).
Koukl summarized by stating:
“ It is true that it's possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We're talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God.[65] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-Koukl-64) ” http://conservapedia.com/images/thumb/a/a2/Solzhenitsyn.jpg/150px-Solzhenitsyn.jpg (http://conservapedia.com/File:Solzhenitsyn.jpg) http://conservapedia.com/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://conservapedia.com/File:Solzhenitsyn.jpg)
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (http://conservapedia.com/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn)


Nobel Prize (http://conservapedia.com/Nobel_Prize) winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (http://conservapedia.com/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn) was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist (http://conservapedia.com/Communism) regime he and fellow citizens suffered under.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote:
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia (http://conservapedia.com/Russia): "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened. Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."[66] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-65)
” In 2008, Vox Day (http://conservapedia.com/Vox_Day) notes concerning atheism and mass murder:
“ Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao … The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.
The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.
Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation![67] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-66)
” Atheists in America and charity

See also: Atheism and Uncharitableness (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Uncharitableness) and Atheism and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_depression) and Atheism, uncharitableness and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_uncharitableness_and_depression) http://conservapedia.com/images/8/8e/228130875_35181424e3.jpg (http://conservapedia.com/File:228130875_35181424e3.jpg) http://conservapedia.com/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://conservapedia.com/File:228130875_35181424e3.jpg)
According to a study by the Barna Group (http://conservapedia.com/Barna_Group) regarding charitable giving:"The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics (http://conservapedia.com/Agnosticism)."[68] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-67)


Concerning the issue of atheism and uncharitableness (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Uncharitableness), the evidence indicates that per capita charitable giving by atheists and agnostics in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the Barna Group (http://conservapedia.com/Barna_Group):
“ The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.[69] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-68) ” A comprehensive study by Harvard University (http://conservapedia.com/Harvard_University) professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.[70] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-69)[71] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-70) The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.[72] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-71)[73] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-72) Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).[74] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-73)[75] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-74)
Arthur C. Brooks wrote in Policy Review regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research (http://conservapedia.com/Roper_Center_for_Public_Opinion_Research)):
“ The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.[76] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-75) ” ABC News reported the following in respect to atheism:
“ ...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization:
"Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches," he says. "The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities."[77] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-76)
” Given that atheistic evolutionary (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) thinking has engendered social darwinism (http://conservapedia.com/Social_darwinism) and given that the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_morality), the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not unpredictable.
Atheism and immoral views

See main article: Atheism and Morality (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Morality) The Barna Group (http://conservapedia.com/Barna_Group) found regarding atheism and morality (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Morality) that those who hold to the worldviews of atheism or agnosticism in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use (http://conservapedia.com/Illegal_drugs); excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage (http://conservapedia.com/Fornication); abortion (http://conservapedia.com/Abortion); cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language (http://conservapedia.com/Profanity); gambling (http://conservapedia.com/Gambling); pornography (http://conservapedia.com/Pornography) and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality)/bisexuality (http://conservapedia.com/Bisexuality).[78] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-77) Given the many diseases associated with homosexuality (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_Health), the biblical (http://conservapedia.com/Bible) prohibition against homosexuality (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality) is quite arguably one of the many examples where the Bible exhibited knowledge that was ahead of its time (http://creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge). Although Western (http://conservapedia.com/Western_world) atheists generally subscribe to the evolutionary paradigm, there is a conflict between the evolutionary paradigm (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) and Western atheists often having favorable views toward homosexuality. In 1993, Professor Miron Baron (http://conservapedia.com/Miron_Baron), M.D., the renowned medical researcher and Professor at Columbia University (http://conservapedia.com/Columbia_University), wrote in BMJ (http://conservapedia.com/BMJ) (British Medical Journal) "...from an evolutionary perspective, genetically determined homosexuality (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_genetics) would have become extinct (http://conservapedia.com/Extinct) long ago because of reduced reproduction."[79] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-78)
The Journal of Medical Ethics declared concerning the atheist and sadist (http://conservapedia.com/Sadism) Marquis de Sade (http://conservapedia.com/Marquis_de_Sade):
“ In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his La Philosophic dans le boudoir, in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of population control (http://conservapedia.com/Population_control). It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.[80] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-79) ” Population control (http://conservapedia.com/Population_control) is based on pseudoscience (http://conservapedia.com/Pseudoscience) and ill founded economic (http://conservapedia.com/Economics) assumptions.[81] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-80) CBS News (http://conservapedia.com/CBS_News) reported: "According to a mail-in survey of nearly 4,000 British doctors, those who were atheist or agnostic were almost twice as willing to take actions designed to hasten the end of life."[82] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-81)
In 2007 the Baptist Press reported:
“ ...a pollster at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, found that adults who profess a belief in God are significantly more likely than atheists to say that forgiveness, patience, generosity and a concern for others are "very important." In fact, the poll found that on 11 of 12 values, there was a double-digit gap between theists and atheists, with theists more likely to label each value "very important." The survey by sociologist and pollster Reginald Bibby examined the beliefs of 1,600 Canadians, 82 percent who said they believed in "God or a higher power" and 18 percent who said they did not.[83] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-82)
” Dr. William Lane Craig (http://conservapedia.com/William_Lane_Craig) states the following concerning the comments of debater Dr. Kai Nielson (http://conservapedia.com/Kai_Nielson) who advocates atheism:
“ He doesn’t really defend his point there, but he says, "I have a reason why we should be moral." He says, "It’s in our self-interest to be moral." I was really surprised to hear that coming from him. That sort of purely self-interested motivation for morality is, I think, fatal to the atheistic position because for someone who is sufficiently powerful not to be worried about what others do, self-interest can only lead to a sort of self-aggrandizing hedonism. It leads to the kind of life of a Marcos, a Papa Doc Duvalier, a Mbbutu, and so forth. Self-interest will never be able to justify an ethic of compassion. And so I think that was a fatal admission on Dr. Nielsen’s part for the atheistic worldview.[84] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-83) ” http://conservapedia.com/images/b/b4/998086u.jpg (http://conservapedia.com/File:998086u.jpg) http://conservapedia.com/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://conservapedia.com/File:998086u.jpg)
An essay by the Christian apologist (http://conservapedia.com/Christian_apologetics) Dr. James Spiegel describes Bertrand Russell (http://conservapedia.com/Bertrand_Russell) as a "misogynistic and a serial adulterer; a chronic seducer of women, especially very young women, even in his old age."[85] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-84)


Dr. Phil Fernandes states the following regarding atheism and moral relativism (http://conservapedia.com/Moral_relativism):
“ Nietzsche (http://conservapedia.com/Friedrich_Nietzsche) preached that a group of "supermen" must arise with the courage to create their own values through their "will to power." Nietzsche rejected the "soft" values of Christianity (http://conservapedia.com/Christianity) (brotherly love, turning the other cheek, charity, compassion, etc.); he felt they hindered man's creativity and potential.... Many other atheists agree with Nietzsche concerning moral relativism. British philosopher Bertrand Russell (http://conservapedia.com/Bertrand_Russell) (1872-1970) once wrote, "Outside human desires there is no moral standard." A. J. Ayer (http://conservapedia.com/A._J._Ayer) believed that moral commands did not result from any objective standard above man. Instead, Ayer stated that moral commands merely express one's subjective feelings. When one says that murder is wrong, one is merely saying that he or she feels that murder is wrong. Jean-Paul Sartre (http://conservapedia.com/Jean-Paul_Sartre), a French existentialist (http://conservapedia.com/Existentialism), believed that there is no objective meaning to life. Therefore, according to Sartre, man must create his own values.
There are many different ways that moral relativists attempt to determine what action should be taken. Hedonism (http://conservapedia.com/Hedonism) is probably the most extreme. It declares that whatever brings the most pleasure is right. In other words, if it feels good, do it. If this position is true, then there is no basis from which to judge the actions of Adolph Hitler (http://conservapedia.com/Adolph_Hitler) as being evil.[86] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-85)
” Evolutionist (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) and atheist Richard Dawkins (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins) stated in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying Hitler wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."[87] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-86) The interviewer wrote, regarding the Hitler comment, "I was stupefied. He had readily conceded that his own philosophical (http://conservapedia.com/Philosophy) position did not offer a rational basis for moral judgments. His intellectual honesty was refreshing, if somewhat disturbing on this point."[88] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-87)
An essay by the Christian apologist Dr. James Spiegel examines the morality of some well known atheists. Dr. Speigel describes Bertrand Russell as a "misogynistic and a serial adulterer; a chronic seducer of women, especially very young women, even in his old age."[89] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-88) Spiegel refers to the atheist Karl Marx (http://conservapedia.com/Karl_Marx) as a "fiercely anti-semitic; egocentric, slothful, and lecherous; exploitive of friends and unfaithful to his wife; sired an illegitimate son, whom he refused to acknowledge."[90] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-89) In addition, Spiegel refers to atheist Jean-Paul Sartre in the following manner: "in his old age Jean-Paul Sartre—notorious for his sexual escapades with female students, often procured by his colleague and lover Simone de Beauvoir."[91] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-90)
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Many consider atheist Harry Hay (http://conservapedia.com/Harry_Hay) to be the founder of the American homosexual (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality) movement.


Given that atheistic evolutionary (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) thinking has engendered social darwinism (http://conservapedia.com/Social_darwinism) and given that the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_morality), the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Uncharitableness) is not unpredictable.
Atheism, pederasty and NAMBLA

see also: Atheism, pederasty and NAMBLA (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_pederasty_and_NAMBLA) and Teenage homosexuality (http://conservapedia.com/Teenage_homosexuality) and Homosexuality and pederasty (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty)
Some of the well known atheist advocates of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (http://conservapedia.com/North_American_Man-Boy_Love_Association) (NAMBLA) are:
1. The atheist and homosexual (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality) David Thorstad (http://conservapedia.com/David_Thorstad) was a founding member of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).[92] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-91)
2. Harry Hay (http://conservapedia.com/Harry_Hay) (1912 - 2002) was an liberal (http://conservapedia.com/Liberal) advocate of statutory rape (http://conservapedia.com/Statutory_rape) and the widely acknowledged founder and progenitor of the activist homosexual agenda (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexual_agenda) in the United States (http://conservapedia.com/United_States). Hay joined the Communist Party of the United States (http://conservapedia.com/Communist_Party_of_the_United_States) (CPUSA) in 1934. [93] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-92) Harry Hay was an atheist.[94] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-93) He was a vociferous advocate of man/boy love. [95] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-94)[96] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-95) In 1986, Hay marched in a gay (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexual) parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the words "NAMBLA (http://conservapedia.com/NAMBLA) walks with me."[97] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-96)
3. The writer Samuel R. Delaney (http://conservapedia.com/Samuel_R._Delaney) is an atheist and a homosexual (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality).[98] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-97)[99] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-98) Delaney said he was a supporter of NAMBLA.[100] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-99)
See also: Richard Dawkins on child molestation and so called "gentle pedophiles" (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins_on_child_molestation_and_so_called _%22gentle_pedophiles%22) and John Maynard Keynes and pederasty (http://conservapedia.com/John_Maynard_Keynes_and_pederasty)
Atheism and miracles

See main article: Atheism and Miracles (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Miracles) In relation to atheism and miracles (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Miracles), modern scholars are divided on the issue of whether or not David Hume (http://conservapedia.com/David_Hume) was an atheist.[101] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-100) With that caveat in mind, Hume is well known for arguing that it is always more probable that the testimony of a miracle is false than that the miracle occurred.[102] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-cp-101) Christian apologists William Lane Craig (http://conservapedia.com/William_Lane_Craig), Norman Geisler (http://conservapedia.com/Norman_Geisler), C.S. Lewis (http://conservapedia.com/C.S._Lewis), JP Holding (http://conservapedia.com/JP_Holding), and others have shown the inadequacy and unreasonableness of Hume's position regarding miracles.[102] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-cp-101)[103] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-102)[104] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-103)[105] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-104)[106] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-105)[107] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-106)[108] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-107)
Atheism and questions of origins

See main article: Atheism and Evolution (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Evolution) Creationist (http://conservapedia.com/Creationism) scientists state that the first law of thermodynamics (http://conservapedia.com/First_Law_of_Thermodynamics) and the second law of thermodynamics (http://conservapedia.com/Second_Law_of_Thermodynamics) argue against an eternal universe or a universe created by natural processes and argue for a universe created by God (http://conservapedia.com/God).[109] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-108)[110] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-109)[111] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-110) A majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the evolutionary position which employs methodological naturalism (http://conservapedia.com/Methodological_naturalism) since World War II (http://conservapedia.com/World_War_II) have had the worldview of atheism.[112] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-111)[113] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-112) Creation scientists (http://conservapedia.com/Creation_science) assert that the theory of evolution (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) is an inadequate explanation for the variety of life forms on earth.[114] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-113) In addition, the current naturalistic explanations for the origin of life are inadequate (http://conservapedia.com/Origin_of_life). The theory of evolution has had a number of negative social effects (http://conservapedia.com/Social_effects_of_the_theory_of_evolution).
Atheism and mental and physical health

See also: Atheism and health (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_health) and Atheism and obesity (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_obesity) The is considerable amount of scientific (http://conservapedia.com/Science) evidence that suggest that theism is more conducive to mental and physical health than atheism and some of the more significant findings are given below.
Mayo Clinic, university studies, and other research

The prestigious Mayo Clinic (http://conservapedia.com/Mayo_Clinic) reported the following on December 11, 2001:
“ In an article also published in this issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings, Mayo Clinic researchers reviewed published studies, meta-analyses, systematic reviews and subject reviews that examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life and other health outcomes. The authors report a majority of the nearly 350 studies of physical health and 850 studies of mental health that have used religious and spiritual variables have found that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes.[115] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-114)
” In December of 2003, the University of Warwick reported:
“ Dr. Stephen Joseph, from the University of Warwick, said: "Religious people seem to have a greater purpose in life, which is why they are happier. Looking at the research evidence, it seems that those who celebrate the Christian meaning of Christmas (http://conservapedia.com/Christmas) are on the whole likely to be happier.[116] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-115) ” Duke University (http://conservapedia.com/Duke_University) has established the Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health.[117] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-116) The Duke University Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health is based in the Center for Aging at Duke and gives opportunities for scholarly trans-disciplinary conversation and the development of collaborative research projects.[118] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-117) In respect to the atheism and mental and physical health, the center offers many studies which suggest that theism is more beneficial than atheism.[119] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-118)
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Currently, there is an ongoing debate on whether Friedrich Nietzsche (http://conservapedia.com/Friedrich_Nietzsche)'s insanity was caused purely through disease or whether his atheistic/nihilistic (http://conservapedia.com/Nihilism) philosophical outlook on life was the cause.


The Christian group Teen Challenge (http://conservapedia.com/Teen_Challenge) reported:
“ Teen Challenge claims of a 70% cure rate for the drug addicts graduating from their program attracted the attention of the U.S. Federal Government in 1973. Most secular drug rehabilitation programs only experienced a cure rate of 1-15% of their graduates. The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), part of the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, funded the first year of this study to evaluate the long term results of the Teen Challenge program.[120] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-119) ” Teen Challenge has a number of studies that indicate the high effectiveness of their drug treatment program compared to other programs.[121] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-120) Studies indicate that consumers of secular counseling psychology (http://conservapedia.com/Psychology) programs show hardly any benefit at all for alcoholism (http://conservapedia.com/Alcoholism) (see also: Ineffectiveness of secular counseling psychology (http://conservapedia.com/Ineffectivness_of_counseling_psychology)).[122] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-121)[123] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-122) The Apostle Paul (http://conservapedia.com/Apostle_Paul) in a letter to the church of Corinth (http://conservapedia.com/Corinth) indicated that Christians (http://conservapedia.com/Christianity) were able to overcome being drunkards through the power of Jesus Christ (http://conservapedia.com/Jesus_Christ) (I Corinthians 6:9-11). The website The Berean Call has a number of articles on various false claims and unbiblical notions that many practioners of counseling psychology promote.[124] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-123)
Currently, there is an ongoing debate on whether Friedrich Nietzsche (http://conservapedia.com/Friedrich_Nietzsche)'s insanity was caused purely through disease or whether his atheistic/nihilistic (http://conservapedia.com/Nihilism) philosophical outlook on life was the cause.[125] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-124) [126] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-hkbu-125)
An article published on the Hong Kong Baptist University declares:
“ Trying to explain what caused his insanity can only be a matter of speculation. Some people believe it was the result of a physical illness. Others interpret his suffering as that of a true prophet, almost as if he were accepting the punishment on behalf of those who could not see mankind's tendency towards self-destruction so clearly. Still others regard his final fate as a natural outcome of his philosophical outlook.[126] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-hkbu-125) ” The Russian-born psychoanalyst and writer Lou Andreas-Salomé, who had a brief and tempestuous affair with Nietzsche, believed that Nietzsche's philosophy can be viewed as a reflection of his psychology and that his madness was the result of his philosophizing.[127] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-126) In addition, the French historian René Girard asserted that Nietzsche's philosophy led to his insanity.[128] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-127)
Atheism and suicide

See also: Atheism and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_depression) and Atheism and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_suicide) and Atheism, gender and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_gender_and_suicide) and Atheism, marriage and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_marriage_and_suicide) Although there are recent studies relating to atheism being a causal factor for suicide for some individuals (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_suicide), an early proponent of atheism being a causal factor for suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Suicide) was the Reverend Dr. Robert Stuart MacArthur (http://conservapedia.com/Robert_Stuart_MacArthur).[129] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-128)[130] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-129)[131] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-nytimes-130) In 1894, the NY Times (http://conservapedia.com/NY_Times) stated the following in relation to atheism and suicide:
“ Dr. Martin urged that a great cause of suicide was atheism. It was, he said, a remarkable fact that where atheism prevailed most, there suicides were most numerous. In Paris (http://conservapedia.com/Paris), a recent census showed one suicide to every 2,700 of the population. After the publication of Paine's "Age of Reason" suicides increased.[131] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-nytimes-130) ” http://conservapedia.com/images/thumb/f/f8/Desperation_man.jpg/200px-Desperation_man.jpg (http://conservapedia.com/File:Desperation_man.jpg) http://conservapedia.com/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://conservapedia.com/File:Desperation_man.jpg)
Pitzer College sociologist Phil Zuckerman stated concerning suicide rates: "this is the one indicator of societal health in which religious nations fare much better than secular nations."


The same NY Times article quotes the Reverend Dr. MacArthur describing suicide in the following manner:
“ It is mean and not manly; it is dastardly and not daring. A man who involves his innocent wife and children in financial disaster and disgrace and takes his life and leaves them to bear the burden he was unwilling to bear, is a coward.[131] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-nytimes-130) ” In 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
“ Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found.[132] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-131) ” The website Adherents.com reported the following in respect to atheism and suicide:
“ Pitzer College sociologist Phil Zuckerman compiled country-by-country survey, polling and census numbers relating to atheism, agnosticism, disbelief in God and people who state they are non-religious or have no religious preference. These data were published in the chapter titled "Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns" in The Cambridge Companion to Atheism, ed. by Michael Martin, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK (2005). In examining various indicators of societal health, Zuckerman concludes about suicide: "Concerning suicide rates, this is the one indicator of societal health in which religious nations fare much better than secular nations. According to the 2003 World Health Organization's report on international male suicides rates (which compared 100 countries), of the top ten nations with the highest male suicide rates, all but one (Sri Lanka) are strongly irreligious nations with high levels of atheism. It is interesting to note, however, that of the top remaining nine nations leading the world in male suicide rates, all are former Soviet/Communist nations, such as Belarus, Ukraine, and Latvia. Of the bottom ten nations with the lowest male suicide rates, all are highly religious nations with statistically insignificant levels of organic atheism."[133] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-132)
” Australian (http://conservapedia.com/Australia) online opinion writer and lecturer in ethics and philosophy at several Melbourne (http://conservapedia.com/Melbourne) theological (http://conservapedia.com/Theology) colleges, Bill Muehlenberg, in his essay The Unbearable Heaviness of Being (In a World Without God) states the following:
“ Announcing, and believing, that God is dead has consequences. And it is we who suffer the most for it. We cannot bear the whole universe on our shoulders. We were not meant to. We must let God be God. Only then can men be men. Only then can we find the way forward to be possible, and the burdens not insurmountable.[134] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-133) ” Atheism, uncharitableness and suicide

See also: Atheism and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_depression) and Atheism, uncharitableness and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_uncharitableness_and_depression) and Atheism and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_suicide)
A number of studies have confirmed that there is an inverse relationship to doing volunteer work and depression.[135] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-134) The atheist population (http://conservapedia.com/Atheist_Population) has a higher suicide rate than the general population. (see: Atheism and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_suicide)).
Ex-Christians, self-esteem and suicide

See also: Ex-Christians, self-esteem and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Ex-Christians,_self-esteem_and_suicide) and Atheism and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_depression) and Atheism and self-esteem (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_self-esteem) and Richard Dawkins and Jesse Kilgore (http://conservapedia.com/Richard_Dawkins_and_Jesse_Kilgore) and Ex-atheists (http://conservapedia.com/Ex-atheists)
There are preliminary studies indicating that individuals who reject Christianity (http://conservapedia.com/Christianity) in Western cultures have lower self-esteem than the Christian population.[136] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-135)[137] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-136) There are studies indicating that lower self-esteem is associated with suicidality.[138] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-137)[139] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-138)
Atheism, gender, marriage and suicide

See also: Atheism and depression (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_depression)
Please see: Atheism, gender and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_gender_and_suicide) and Atheism, marriage and suicide (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_marriage_and_suicide)
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The atheist and evolutionist (http://conservapedia.com/Evolution) PZ Myers (http://conservapedia.com/PZ_Myers) experienced problems with being overweight. A 2009 picture of a significantly overweight PZ Myers can be seen HERE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cfimi/5244769742/).

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Atheism and obesity

See also: Atheism and obesity (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_obesity)
According to the Gallup Organization (http://conservapedia.com/Gallup_Organization), "Very religious Americans are more likely to practice healthy behaviors than those who are moderately religious or nonreligious."[140] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-139) For more information please Atheism and obesity (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_obesity)
Gallup declared concerning the study which measured the degree to which religiosity affects health practices: "Generalized linear model (http://conservapedia.com/Generalized_linear_model) analysis was used to estimate marginal scores all five reported metrics after controlling for age (in years), gender, race/ethnicity, marital status, education (number of years), log of income, and region of the country... Results are based on telephone interviews conducted as part of the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index survey Jan. 2-July 28, 2010, with a random sample of 554,066 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, selected using random-digit-dial sampling."[141] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-140)
Please see:


Atheism and obesity (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_obesity)



Psychology, obesity, religiosity and atheism (http://conservapedia.com/Psychology,_obesity,_religiosity_and_atheism)



New Atheism and obesity (http://conservapedia.com/New_Atheism_leadership%27s_problem_with_excess_wei ght)



Atheism, obesity and self-esteem (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism,_obesity_and_self-esteem)



Homosexuality and obesity (http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_obesity)

Smyg
4th August 2011, 16:37
Their article on Anarchism is surprisingly tame. http://www.conservapedia.com/Anarchism

Given that these people are deranged Tea Partiers and such ilk, I'm not surprised.

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 16:50
http://conservapedia.com/Barack_Obama

at the very least they don't say he was born in kenya.

jrfla2006
4th August 2011, 18:03
Hitler was actually an atheist. While he may have said some things during speeches to make him sound like he was a Christian for political reasons, historians agree that the evidence points to him being an atheist. It is not just parts of his speeches, and text from his book Mein Kampf that prove this, but it was also proven by his actions as well. No true Christian would slaughter the Jews like Hitler did.

Holy sh**,everything above is a lie.

Rss
4th August 2011, 19:52
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote:

Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia (http://conservapedia.com/Russia): "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened. Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."[66] (http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#cite_note-65)
What a piece of human garbage.

http://conservapedia.com/Video_games#Faith_in_Video_Games

Hahahahaha.

UnknownPerson
4th August 2011, 19:59
This is what most of the people think communism is:
h0q4DKE0eeM

Susurrus
4th August 2011, 20:32
This is what most of the people think communism is:
h0q4DKE0eeM

Our Fidel, who art in Cuba
Hallowed be thy beard
thy revolution come, thy people be liberated
on earth as it is in Cuba.
Give us this day our daily rations
and forgive us our reactionaryism
as we forgive those who have come to the left
and lead us not into capitalism
but deliver us from reformism
for thine is the cigar, and the fatigues and the great beard.
forever and ever
Viva.

DinodudeEpic
6th August 2011, 06:47
Yet in their self-picturing of being the defenders of limited government and liberty, the Tea Party/Conservapedia wants the government to restrict the lives of gays, Muslims, women, and all other minorities. They also want massive government spending via a huge and massive military. And, let's not forget how they managed to wreck local-scale democracy and collective bargaining rights in the Midwest.

The Tea Party and Conservapedia sure want liberty and less government control over our lives.

Anyways, Conservapedia sprouts bullshit, but so does Fox News. The Right-Wing media has practically ruined every single political word with it's newspeak. And, it has created an imaginary world the opposite of the real world.

CHE with an AK
6th August 2011, 07:15
Tea Party/Conservapedia wants the government to restrict the lives of gays, Muslims, women, and all other minorities.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/2011/31146_421563576203_511516203_5304235_4969222_n.jpg






They also want massive government spending via a huge and massive military.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/2011/USpublic.gif






Conservapedia sprouts bullshit, but so does Fox News.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/2011/foxwash_dees.jpg






it has created an imaginary world the opposite of the real world.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Tredcrow/2011/St_20Helens20Fox20News.jpg

Commissar Rykov
6th August 2011, 07:23
I think Metapedia is more horrific since it is run by Neo-Nazis.

MustCrushCapitalism
6th August 2011, 07:29
I'm not sure if what I'm reading is comedy, or just pure idiocy.

CHE with an AK
6th August 2011, 17:54
We should all sign up and make a spoof article on RevLeft on Conservapedia. :cool:

The Dark Side of the Moon
6th August 2011, 18:33
We should all sign up and make a spoof article on RevLeft on Conservapedia. :cool:
already did lol

o well this is ok I guess
6th August 2011, 19:00
>Marxism page
>see also: Barack Obama

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The Stalinator
8th August 2011, 07:14
I like Conservapedia. It's like an archive of all the lies and bullshit I've already heard, taken to an even more ridiculous extreme. I like the strange mixture of seething rage and condescending amusement over their stupidity that it gives me.

CommunityBeliever
8th August 2011, 07:35
I see that this site has a pretty good opinion of Trotsky :lol:


A charismatic orator, systematic organizer and brilliant theorist, Trotsky was primarily an intellectual whose writings greatly influenced leftist movements worldwide. An energetic organizer he planned the successful Petrograd uprising in November 1917, created the Red Army, and played the central role in winning the civil war (1918-20).

This site also has a nice opinion of Mao :thumbup1:


Mao is regarded as perhaps the most prolific mass murderer in human history, not even counting the inummerable unborn female fetuses whom he callously slaughtered.

Smyg
8th August 2011, 12:11
"Not even counting". Hehe. :D

Dayna
10th August 2011, 10:11
I didn't atually think this was a website until i read down more posts and seen the tag web pages from this webpage.