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Paulappaul
4th August 2011, 01:00
Link (http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/07/24/pentagon-deploying-20000-troops-united-states-prepare-civil-unrest-event-economic-collapse-41241/)
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The pentagon has announced plans to deploy a 20,000 strong internal troop force within the united states over the next two years civil unrest in the even of a catastrophic even such as a massive large scale terror attacks or economic collapse — thus, dovetailing into the current troop and equipment movements reported around the country reported by truckers (http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/20/truckers-report-moving-military-equipment-across-u-s-fema-involved/) and many more sightings by others (http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/17/suspicious-military-convoy-seen-near-kentucky-tennessee-border/).


This has raised fears that the United States is moving ever closer to a total militarized police state, and some wonder if people will become desensitized to the implementation of martial law if once they become conditioned to seeing the military roaming the American streets on a daily basis. Others suggest the announcement of the troop deployment is part of some unknown larger plan being implement and due to the coincidental timing with the now apparently related pre-positioning of troops equipment and (NOTAM) No-Fly Zones in the Continental United States (CONUS) (http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/20/military-equipment-positioning-no-fly-zones-troop-movements/).

Other speculation this may correlate with the debt ceiling talks which now seem to haven fallen apart and entered into the point of no return or if the announcement is related to recently reported nuclear threats from reactors in danger within the US (http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/23/fort-calhoun-nuclear-plant-radioactive-plume-projections-released-for-the-conus/).


The Russia today video attached below covers the many of the questions fears and shows a wide range of reactions from U.S. citizens about the Pentagon’s announcement of stationing 20,000 troops within the United States.


The deployment may also be part of the beginning phases of REX84 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3010) (Readiness Exercise 1984) being activated due to a catastrophic event that is yet to take place.


A NASA video recently released alludes to this possibility and issues a warning to all employees regarding living near large
bodies of water. Watch the NASA video yourself.


Another possibility reason for the deployment may stem from reports that White House was prompted by NASA late last year that there was threat from outer space now facing the nation and a deflection campaign will need to be implemented (http://www.scribd.com/doc/56681465/Reconnaissance-Earth-Near-Earth-Objects-PDF-From-White-House-Dot-Gov) – this document was signed by Eric P. Holdren.
Then you have the FEMA/FCC Take over drill happening on September 26, 2011 (http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/16/fema-and-a-special-intel-hub-announcement/) — the very same day asteroid 2005 YU55 threatens to hit earth and/or the moon (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/541440main_2005_YU55_approach.gif).


Alternatively, another catastrophic threat from space would be the detonation of the super nuclear EMP bomb a just released defense intelligence report (http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-jersey-city/china-developing-super-electromagnet-pulse-bomb-to-use-war-against-u-s) reveals China has been building and testing.
According to a report (http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/07/24/china-developing-super-nuclear-electromagnet-pulse-bomb-future-war-41021/) in The Asia Times, the EMP bomb could be detonated in outer space and would destroy all electronic equipment in the U.S.

effectively sending America back to the middle ages in less than one second.
Casualty estimates project that 9 out of 10 Americans would die within a year (http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/22/chinese-emp-weapons-program-confirmed-by-intelligence-agencies-designed-to-attack-us-carrier-fleets-taiwan/) as a result of the blast.

Sasha
4th August 2011, 01:05
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PCsp7gWmJvc/TXXZK9v45oI/AAAAAAAABUg/SJP19ofpVMs/tin-foil-hat-winners.jpg

moved to chitchat

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 01:08
Don't knock this, I've seen it as well. I just thought it was normal troop movement.

Lenina Rosenweg
4th August 2011, 01:11
This may be a subject for a great deal of concern, on the other hand that blog also had an article by Gerald Celente. When I saw that it lost a lot of credibility with me. The articles do have some truth but the Higgin's blog overall seems to be a gloom and doom/survivalist/goldbug type deal, only on a somewhat more leftist perspective than rightist.

Susurrus
4th August 2011, 01:16
Only one option: convert them to communism, then invade the winter palace.

Manic Impressive
4th August 2011, 01:16
I may be wrong but I think I remember hearing that some overseas US military bases were closing, can't remember when they were supposed to be closing. That may explain the extra troops coming home which I'm sure would also save a bit of money. It would be worrying if the article is even a little correct but the explanations given are crazy.

Sasha
4th August 2011, 01:17
Don't knock this, I've seen it as well. I just thought it was normal troop movement.

did you read the rest of the article?, besides that there isn't one remotely correct constructed sentence in it it argues that the government (all governments in the world + the scientific community i presume) are covering up that an humongous asteroid is impacting soon that will wipe out civilasation and humanity as we know it.
and the source article is from an website filled to the brim with advertisement for waterfilters, jodium tablets and other survivalist junk.
it could very well be that in the light of the economic unrest and the heightened social turmoil some more troops are deployed over the US but thats exactly my point. there are enough actual, plausible conspiracys and general fuckeduppedty to get worked up over that people shouldnt get distracted by crap like this.

A Revolutionary Tool
4th August 2011, 04:06
Or it could be the Chinese with their super weapons. Remember that China still hates our guts and wants to wipe us off of the freaking map man! Just gives me more reason to get a gun...

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 04:26
did you read the rest of the article?, besides that there isn't one remotely correct constructed sentence in it it argues that the government (all governments in the world + the scientific community i presume) are covering up that an humongous asteroid is impacting soon that will wipe out civilasation and humanity as we know it.
and the source article is from an website filled to the brim with advertisement for waterfilters, jodium tablets and other survivalist junk.
it could very well be that in the light of the economic unrest and the heightened social turmoil some more troops are deployed over the US but thats exactly my point. there are enough actual, plausible conspiracys and general fuckeduppedty to get worked up over that people shouldnt get distracted by crap like this.

Being sarcastic. Men and materiel are moved around the country all the time. a lot more than 20,000. Heck, they're moved around the WORLD all the time. Just part of being a military family.

Illuminati
4th August 2011, 04:43
This is real. The only people who would knock it or you are reactionaries or Pentagon trolls.

#FF0000
4th August 2011, 05:10
Or it could be the Chinese with their super weapons. Remember that China still hates our guts and wants to wipe us off of the freaking map man! Just gives me more reason to get a gun...

yeah so their economy can just explode too I guess.

A Revolutionary Tool
4th August 2011, 06:43
yeah so their economy can just explode too I guess.
Their economy will boom with all of the American organs they harvest from our cold, dead, bodies and with all the natural resources they will get after they take over the country. Russia's economy will boom too because it's part of the Russo-China plan to take over North America. Of course Britain will go on the attack with it's NATO allies because it won't like that it's colony, America, will be attacked and taken over by the Chinese and Russians. Seriously bro if you pick up a book once in a while you might know some of this shit.

bcbm
4th August 2011, 08:30
wow that tinfoil post was very apt

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 15:05
wow that tinfoil post was very apt

Hey, be nice to the tin foil hat guys, they will save us from the dark ones one day.

Crux
4th August 2011, 15:36
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The Douche
4th August 2011, 16:51
Only 20,000? What major city could be pacified with 20,000 troops? None.

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 16:53
Only 20,000? What major city could be pacified with 20,000 troops? None.

oh down here in the south, they'd be slaughtered. We basically keep the AR-15 industry alive.

The Douche
4th August 2011, 21:23
oh down here in the south, they'd be slaughtered. We basically keep the AR-15 industry alive.


You don't even need armed resistance, for instance, Baltimore which is a pretty medium sized city, has 630,000 in side the city limits, plus those people who live in outlying areas. 20,000 soldiers can't contain that, especially since if you have 20,000 you probably only have 8-10,000 who are combat/combat capable, and 10,000 people cannot contain even half the population of the city of Baltimore.

khad
4th August 2011, 21:36
Only 20,000? What major city could be pacified with 20,000 troops? None.
And they accuse the Soviet Union of brutality when they went into Hungary with that many.

You're right, though. No major city in actual revolt can be pacified with so few troops.

A little basic military arithmetic would go a long way to debunking some big leftist myths.

gendoikari
4th August 2011, 22:23
You don't even need armed resistance, for instance, Baltimore which is a pretty medium sized city, has 630,000 in side the city limits, plus those people who live in outlying areas. 20,000 soldiers can't contain that, especially since if you have 20,000 you probably only have 8-10,000 who are combat/combat capable, and 10,000 people cannot contain even half the population of the city of Baltimore.

Depends on what those soldiers have. if say it's a force of about 10k with 2k tanks or LAV's with them, they could do a pretty good job. infantry on the other hand yea, yeah it'd be a slaughter.

Pioneers_Violin
5th August 2011, 02:56
Wait a second...

Don't assume those troops are here to stop the revolution.

They're here to HELP the Russo-Sino backed communist revolution here in the USA.

They were hand-picked by Comrade Obama himself and they're on our side! ;)

At least that's how the talk radio types apparently see it... :lol:

The Douche
5th August 2011, 04:02
Depends on what those soldiers have. if say it's a force of about 10k with 2k tanks or LAV's with them, they could do a pretty good job. infantry on the other hand yea, yeah it'd be a slaughter.

Dude, uh, 2000 tanks? There are only 6,000 tanks in the entire US military. Furthermore, a tank company only has 14 tanks, meaning a batallion will have 42 tanks approx. So under no circumstances will there ever be 2,000 (or any number close) in the same area of operations.

Also, tanks and light armor have vastly reduced effectivity in urban areas, especially urban areas with tall buildings packed in densely.

gendoikari
5th August 2011, 04:49
Dude, uh, 2000 tanks? There are only 6,000 tanks in the entire US military. Furthermore, a tank company only has 14 tanks, meaning a batallion will have 42 tanks approx. So under no circumstances will there ever be 2,000 (or any number close) in the same area of operations.

Also, tanks and light armor have vastly reduced effectivity in urban areas, especially urban areas with tall buildings packed in densely.

we used them fairly effectively against the iraqis and they had RPGs with them. Also, I say 2k tanks because it only said 20,000 troops. never said they weren't mounted. and it only takes 4 people to man a tank.

also there's a lot more than 6k there were over 9k M1's built, no telling how many we have in surplus of pattons and the like. Then you have the real urban combat specialists in vehicles the stryker, and the M2 Bradley.

The Douche
5th August 2011, 05:14
we used them fairly effectively against the iraqis and they had RPGs with them. Also, I say 2k tanks because it only said 20,000 troops. never said they weren't mounted. and it only takes 4 people to man a tank.

also there's a lot more than 6k there were over 9k M1's built, no telling how many we have in surplus of pattons and the like. Then you have the real urban combat specialists in vehicles the stryker, and the M2 Bradley.

Iraqi cities are not like US cities, my man. And we really didn't use a lot of armor in Iraq after the invasion, its not really effective in a counter-insurgency role. The M1 abrams is a devastating weapon, but its not the easiest thing to employ in an urban environment, things like attack choppers are much more devastating to urban resistance movements.

Like I said, there won't be 2000 tanks, because the whole military only has 6,000. I dunno, why you disputed this? Of course more have been made, to replace ones which were damaged, and because they are exported.

And yeah, no doubt there are M60 MBTs in storage to some degree. But I don't think you understand how the military organizes armor/mechanized infantry units.

If you have 20,000 troops, and lets say 8,000-10,000 of them are combat arms or combat support (which means Infantry, Cavalry, Artillery, and Military Police), and yes, 4 individuals man a tank, that doesn't mean you have the ability to field 2,000 tanks.

Ok man, let me clue you in on some military stuff, a whole division (mechanized Infantry) which is 10,000-15,000 troops, so 20,000 would be an extra-strength division, has only 41 tanks, which is even less than I thought.

A mechanized infantry division does also have more vehicles, like 46 of them. But thats not a guarantee that they will be bradleys or strykers, they could also just be humvees which is more likely since they're stateside, and they want the IFVs in the combat zones, or in the hands of the units that will be deploying to combat zones.

Never gonna have 2,000 tanks in one area of operations, man. It's not the battle of Kursk...

danyboy27
10th August 2011, 17:24
if the objective would be to secure governemental building and other important assets would 20 000 be enough?

i am not a tinfoil hat guy, just plain curious

The Douche
10th August 2011, 17:45
if the objective would be to secure governemental building and other important assets would 20 000 be enough?

i am not a tinfoil hat guy, just plain curious

I mean, secure them from what? Yeah sure, you can surround the state capitol with 2,000 troops, but if you loose the rest of the city then you haven't really secured anything...


Militaries don't really "secure" things like that, they'd use police for that, and the job of the military would be to patrol and pacify the populace.