Fear of being assassinated

[UnknownPerson]

I was planning to start up a broad pan-leftist anti-capitalist political organization (not center-leftist revisionist one, the focus would be fighting against capitalism and supporting virtually every anti-capitalist effort, as well as providing learning materials on various alternatives to capitalism) after getting enough money to do so and after feeling that I'm educated enough on the topic, but I fear that I will be assassinated by the class enemies.

How common are assassinations like these, and what's the most safe and yet effective form of activism? What can I do to protect myself from being assassinated?

[Vendetta]

I'm sure you won't have much to worry about. ;)

[The Douche]

How common are they? Can you tell me the last time you heard about one?

[Apoi_Viitor]

This isn't the 1920's... Most people consider communism dead and buried. The only thing you and your future organization need to worry about is how to get people to take you seriously.

[graymouser]

You are not one of the Haymarket martyrs. You aren't Joe Hill, Frank Little, Nicola Sacco, Bartolomeo Vanzetti, Julius or Ethel Rosenberg, Fred Hampton or Mumia Abu Jamal. You're not going to be assassinated until you do something. And forming a left group isn't big enough to count.

There is repression going on toward radical activists today. Most of it is not directed through extrajudicial murders or legal lynching but in the form of grand jury witchhunts directed at international solidarity activists, immigrant rights activists and others. They've gotten things done, they've been spied on, and their homes have been raided. It's not a non-issue. But some guy starting a new tiny left group? Sorry, but they only come after you once you've done something more substantial.

[Mac]

Lol, assassinations aren't very common, even for leftists.:)

[StoneFrog]

First i'd ask country you are in.

Developed country doubt it, but for other countries possibility; especially if there is a large right wing group.

[AnonymousOne]

Kind of a Catch 22, you don't have to worry about assasinations till you start making an impact, and you want to make an impact but don't want to be assasinated...

[Sasha]

why not, if i could make enough of an impact to the world (presumably for the good) to get targetted for assasination i would gladly take my chance on an headshot.
if our enemys are not supressing us we must be doing something wrong.
for example i think for us revleftists the question shouldnt be why for years the US tried to assasinate fidel as that question has an obvious answer, the way more intresting question should be why they stoped trying to get him dead. :rolleyes:

[thesadmafioso]

Well, firstly you shouldn't of posted this topic, the CIA/FBI/NSA are all now aware of your dastardly plot. I would suggest that you go into hiding right now before the black helicopters start circling overhead, preferably somewhere isolated. What are you feelings toward Antarctica?

Seriously though, don't pay it any worry. Presuming that you live somewhere in the developed world you are pretty safe from any sort of politically motivated assassination plots.

[Ingraham Effingham]

Fear is the mind-killer.

[DarkPast]

What can I do to protect myself from being assassinated?

I'd ask Fidel Castro about this one. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/638_Ways_to_Kill_Castro)

[UnknownPerson]

Well, firstly you shouldn't of posted this topic, the CIA/FBI/NSA are all now aware of your dastardly plot. I would suggest that you go into hiding right now before the black helicopters start circling overhead, preferably somewhere isolated. What are you feelings toward Antarctica?

Seriously though, don't pay it any worry. Presuming that you live somewhere in the developed world you are pretty safe from any sort of politically motivated assassination plots.

I grew up in the post-Soviet Russia for the most part, and this kind of assassinations were rather common. For example, a bomb was detonated on my uncle's staircase because a competitor of some mafia-owned company was living on this staircase just in front of my uncle's. Happily it didn't kill anyone (I suppose it was a warning), but my uncle had hearing problems after that.

I suppose this is something smaller than a left-wing party. I'm close to having enough resources to organize a small leftist party, which I want to be provocative (which could get more members). However, I think there's a chance of being assassinated which would be rather significant judging by the above-stated example.

[CommunityBeliever]

You could die at any time just from getting run over or getting struck by lightning. I think to actually be assassinated would be a good way to go out. :cool:

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Unless you live in Colombia, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Wired]

I grew up in the post-Soviet Russia for the most part, and this kind of assassinations were rather common. For example, a bomb was detonated on my uncle's staircase because a competitor of some mafia-owned company was living on this staircase just in front of my uncle's. Happily it didn't kill anyone (I suppose it was a warning), but my uncle had hearing problems after that.

I suppose this is something smaller than a left-wing party. I'm close to having enough resources to organize a small leftist party, which I want to be provocative (which could get more members). However, I think there's a chance of being assassinated which would be rather significant judging by the above-stated example.

Which country do you live in currently?

[UnknownPerson]

Which country do you live in currently?

France, but I grew up in Russia for the most part.

[Smyg]

I'd say that there is very little risk of anything happening in France, save for the occasional psycho. If you had still been in Russia, it'd have been a rather different story.

[gendoikari]

I was planning to start up a broad pan-leftist anti-capitalist political organization (not center-leftist revisionist one, the focus would be fighting against capitalism and supporting virtually every anti-capitalist effort, as well as providing learning materials on various alternatives to capitalism) after getting enough money to do so and after feeling that I'm educated enough on the topic, but I fear that I will be assassinated by the class enemies.

How common are assassinations like these, and what's the most safe and yet effective form of activism? What can I do to protect myself from being assassinated?

the ones in power hardly ever actually have someone killed, like in the movies. They're too smart for that. That's what they have the tea party for. Mindless brainwashed peons that will come up with that idea on their own.

[ellipsis]

France, but I grew up in Russia for the most part.

Well it's safe enough for bob avakian to go into exile there...

[UnknownPerson]

the ones in power hardly ever actually have someone killed, like in the movies. They're too smart for that. That's what they have the tea party for. Mindless brainwashed peons that will come up with that idea on their own.

That's why I'm referring to 'class competitors'. Obviously, those who own the means of production wouldn't want their means of production to be taken away. Competitors bombing each-other was an example of my encounter with such an issue in my lifetime, which makes me think that it's a perfectly valid one.

[UnknownPerson]

I'd say that there is very little risk of anything happening in France, save for the occasional psycho. If you had still been in Russia, it'd have been a rather different story.

I planned on moving to Russia again, though (I still have my passport), and probably starting an organization there. Is it a bad or a good idea, or is it too unsafe?
Russia has far more people who might be interested as about half to 2/3 of Russia isn't happy with it's present government.

Plus, I have a slight Russian accent in French, so I guess I would get more support in Russia because I speak Russian fluently.
I was also planning to moving to Canada (I would get an instant citizenship as far as I know), but then again, I have a slight Russian accent.

[~Spectre]

If you get assassinated, I doubt you'll care much afterward, so don't worry about it.

[Rss]

Kill one of assassins with bear hands and cripple another one as message to one who sent them.

[Susurrus]

why not, if i could make enough of an impact to the world (presumably for the good) to get targetted for assasination i would gladly take my chance on an headshot.
if our enemys are not supressing us we must be doing something wrong.
for example i think for us revleftists the question shouldnt be why for years the US tried to assasinate fidel as that question has an obvious answer, the way more intresting question should be why they stoped trying to get him dead. :rolleyes:

They haven't, attempts by US backed groups are ongoing.

[ellipsis]

I planned on moving to Russia again, though (I still have my passport), and probably starting an organization there. Is it a bad or a good idea, or is it too unsafe?

I hear bad things. Food not Bombs has a really hard time in Russia, from both cops and fascists. Through my FnB networks I hear they have to bring baseball bats to the servings.

As far as that pertains to assignation potential, I dunno. But I really think you have other worries, before the group has even been formed.

[Susurrus]

On the one hand, it would be more dangerous in Russia. On the other hand, there is a greater need for leftism in Russia to counter the rising neo-nazis. So I would say muster your courage and charge if you think you could actually establish a leftist organization or significantly aid an existing one. Keep in mind that you'll need a slightly more militant focus and massively increased security culture, but that you are where comrades are most needed, in the proverbial trenches fighting the enemy. Whatever you choose, good luck tovarisch. Ura!

[tachosomoza]

I'd worry more about a legal lynching in the USA than being murdered. This ain't Russia or Ukraine.

[Ned Kelly]

In all seriousness, and in the most comradely fashion...get over yourself mate.

[Smyg]

I planned on moving to Russia again, though (I still have my passport), and probably starting an organization there. Is it a bad or a good idea, or is it too unsafe?
Russia has far more people who might be interested as about half to 2/3 of Russia isn't happy with it's present government.


From what I have seen and heard, Russia is bad. Very bad. I doubt the government would do anything, they only seem to murder journalists :rolleyes:, but the fascists and neo-nazis are far more militant and larger than in any other European country at the moment, I'd say.

[Mac]

I might be worried if I lived in France... *cough Sarkozy cough*