No one knows what their doing in life

[Fulanito de Tal]

I was watching Joe Rogan's stand up last night and he said something like "You know what's crazy? No one knows what they're doing in life, but everyone pretends they do. You ask your friend, "Hey, do you know what's going on?' and he says, 'Of course,' but that's a lie. No one knows. We're all just winging it."

That shit got to me because I think it's partly true. Most of us have no clue and we kinda just go with what's happening. Anyone else think this?

[Ingraham Effingham]

Joe Rogan really is a wise soul. I'm being serious. He has such a real outlook on life.

[Broletariat]

I know I'm reading this topic and /facepalming right now.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Of course we have no idea because we're all so dependent on other people's decisions. I mean I'm just winging it. Some people try planning their whole life but I think that would be a little boring anyways. Like you're going to college for years upon years to become a doctor? Fuck it just wing it.

[Niccolò Rossi]

I have a tendency to dislike people who have ambition and direction in life. They are generally horrible people.

Nic.

[mykittyhasaboner]

I have a tendency to dislike people who have ambition and direction in life. They are generally horrible people.

Nic.

Horrible people. Or just really empty, shallow, and lacking of any real ambition or direction.

but hey its all about makin money right? :rolleyes:

id rather have no direction, than accept socially determined "direction" of the kind where one is merely concerned with themselves and their immediate, selfish well being. Especially at the cost of losing a wider and more competent outlook on life.

[jake williams]

I was watching Joe Rogan's stand up last night and he said something like "You know what's crazy? No one knows what they're doing in life, but everyone pretends they do. You ask your friend, "Hey, do you know what's going on?' and he says, 'Of course,' but that's a lie. No one knows. We're all just winging it."
That's extraordinarily true on a pretty serious level.

[praxis1966]

Normally I can't stand Joe Rogan, but the sun will shine on a dog's ass some days I suppose because in this case he happens to be right. I'm nearly 33, I don't have any idea what I want to do with myself in terms of a career (there are still way too many things I'm passionate about) and 75% of the time I feel like I'm just going through the motions. I think the word for it is "listless."

[Decolonize The Left]

There's a big difference between "doing something with your life" and living a life full of meaning and purpose. The former is some bullshit which other people use to gauge who you are as a person and how you fit into their existence. The latter is personal and important.

It's best not to confuse the two.

- August

[praxis1966]

There's a big difference between "doing something with your life" and living a life full of meaning and purpose. The former is some bullshit which other people use to gauge who you are as a person and how you fit into their existence. The latter is personal and important.

It's best not to confuse the two.

- August

If my life had meaning and purpose, my userID wouldn't be in big red font.

[Decolonize The Left]

If my life had meaning and purpose, my userID wouldn't be in big red font.

This made me laugh. Well played.

- August

[Magón]

I'm pretty amazing, myself.

[La Comédie Noire]

It goes deeper than that, when a natural disaster happens or you have a medical emergency, the people in charge of your well being don't always know what they are doing.

I think the internet has really highlighted this when you, me, the media, and government agencies are all learning the same information at exactly the same time.

It's like when Joe Rogan was talking about microphones, do we really know how things work? I mean I have no clue how computers work, but I use them everyday and can probably diagnose and solve basic computer problems, but I don't understand how it works.

Society has just become so amazingly complex, one person can't know everything. Imagine if all doctors dropped dead tomorrow or electricians, how long would it take us to regain all those skills?

[Broletariat]

Imagine if all doctors dropped dead tomorrow or electricians, how long would it take us to regain all those skills?

Not too long.

We've invented ways to store information, like books, or the internet,

[Lobotomy]

Although this is really true, some people are so good at faking it that I forget sometimes. And then I just feel like shit.

I personally don't really like Joe Rogan's standup but he is a pretty smart guy.

[praxis1966]

Not too long.

We've invented ways to store information, like books, or the internet,

If I may be so bold, I believe LCN was trying to say something about post-modern existential anxiety and social stratification in the information age rather than anything about a particular skill set... Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. :lol:


I personally don't really like Joe Rogan's standup but he is a pretty smart guy.

It's his delivery. Most comics will tell you that you can have the best material in the world, but if you don't know how to work it you'll fail. Conversely, you can have crap material *cough*Dane Cook*cough* but if you can find an appealing way to deliver it you're golden.

[#FF0000]

I know my direction in life. Due north until i find a suitable patch of barren tundra to build a cabin on so I don't have to talk to anyone again

[AnonymousOne]

I know my direction in life. Due north until i find a suitable patch of barren tundra to build a cabin on so I don't have to talk to anyone again

Bro, I think you're playing Minecraft again.

[CommieTroll]

I'm pretty amazing, myself.

Feeling a little narcissistic?:laugh:

[CommieTroll]

"There are two basic motivating forces: fear and love. When we are afraid, we pull back from life. When we are in love, we open to all that life has to offer with passion, excitement, and acceptance. We need to learn to love ourselves first, in all our glory and our imperfections. If we cannot love ourselves, we cannot fully open to our ability to love others or our potential to create. Evolution and all hopes for a better world rest in the fearlessness and open-hearted vision of people who embrace life."
— John Lennon

[Magón]

Feeling a little narcissistic?:laugh:

Obviously if I was, I would deny it. So No. :thumbup1:

[Rafiq]

What do you mean "you don't know what you're doing in life?" Sound stupid if you ask me, or is he really just saying "You don't have any ambition in life" which is just stating the obvious.

Who cares?

[Fulanito de Tal]

What do you mean "you don't know what you're doing in life?" Sound stupid if you ask me, or is he really just saying "You don't have any ambition in life" which is just stating the obvious.

Who cares?


No. We are kids that have no idea what's going on with life. Like: Why do we exist? Why do we have a choice? Why do we matter? Why do we know? Why am I conscious of my existence? We just guess that the best thing to do is to follow the theory that we choose. To me, we're just gorillas capable of abstract thinking that like to accumulate and kill each other.

[Rafiq]

Fulanito de Tal:


1. Why do we exist?

No Reason, evolution, accident.

2. Why do we have choice?

The same reason computers do when you're playing them in chess.

3. Why do we matter?

We don't.

4. Why do we know


Because we're like computers, and everything we know is based on the material world around us. Our thoughts are merely reflections, like mirrors.

5. Why am I conscious of my existence?

Humans are not the only ones who are. Your brain allows you to. It is hard to explain, you think of yourself as you think of others, i.e., you develop your identity from third person view.


We're basically just apes who are a bit smarter than Chimps and Gorillas.

Abstract thinking? Debatable.

So I think I know what I'm doing in life.

[Fulanito de Tal]

Fulanito de Tal:


1. Why do we exist?

No Reason, evolution, accident.

2. Why do we have choice?

The same reason computers do when you're playing them in chess.

3. Why do we matter?

We don't.

4. Why do we know


Because we're like computers, and everything we know is based on the material world around us. Our thoughts are merely reflections, like mirrors.

5. Why am I conscious of my existence?

Humans are not the only ones who are. Your brain allows you to. It is hard to explain, you think of yourself as you think of others, i.e., you develop your identity from third person view.


We're basically just apes who are a bit smarter than Chimps and Gorillas.

Abstract thinking? Debatable.

So I think I know what I'm doing in life.

What's consciousness? What is experiencing everything?

[RHIZOMES]

I have a tendency to dislike people who have ambition and direction in life. They are generally horrible people.

Nic.


Horrible people. Or just really empty, shallow, and lacking of any real ambition or direction.

but hey its all about makin money right? :rolleyes:

id rather have no direction, than accept socially determined "direction" of the kind where one is merely concerned with themselves and their immediate, selfish well being. Especially at the cost of losing a wider and more competent outlook on life.


I like to think I have a vague "direction" in life, but I have various backup plans as well - I don't consider myself a horrible person. I dunno, the "just winging it" attitude seems to me to be very middle-class, and isn't an attitude that can relate to the majority of working-class people who are struggling to better their social position for the well-being of themselves and their families.

I can't "just wing it" due to various socioeconomic factors that have determined my life - my family has no real money to its name and a long history of mental illness. If I "just winged it" I'd probably drift from one underpaid casual job to another all my life and end up going literally insane due to all the stress. It is imperative that I navigate through the shitstain that is capitalism to a place of relative financial stability - that way I can more feasibly contribute to anti-capitalist movements in some sort of meaningful way.

[black magick hustla]

. I dunno, the "just winging it" attitude seems to me to be very middle-class, and isn't an attitude that can relate to the majority of working-class people who are struggling to better their social position for the well-being of themselves and their families.
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who the hell are you hanging out with i know lots of "working class" people who are nihilistic drunks and live just to spend their paycheck on drugs and tattoos. millions of destitute youths "wing it" all the fuckin time.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Horrible people. Or just really empty, shallow, and lacking of any real ambition or direction.

but hey its all about makin money right? :rolleyes:

id rather have no direction, than accept socially determined "direction" of the kind where one is merely concerned with themselves and their immediate, selfish well being. Especially at the cost of losing a wider and more competent outlook on life.
It seems overwhelmingly when I get into political conversation with people, they find out I'm anarchist-communist, that I left college and work a menial job, and tell me that I'm just some inept, stupid loser who wants a government handout. Then I die a little inside.

They're usually the ones fighting for capitalism, looking down on the working class, voting democrat or republican religiously. While I'm the guy giving out free clothes, socks, jackets, etc to the homeless in the winter out of the goodness of my heart with my own money.

[Agent Equality]

"There are two basic motivating forces: fear and love. When we are afraid, we pull back from life. When we are in love, we open to all that life has to offer with passion, excitement, and acceptance. We need to learn to love ourselves first, in all our glory and our imperfections. If we cannot love ourselves, we cannot fully open to our ability to love others or our potential to create. Evolution and all hopes for a better world rest in the fearlessness and open-hearted vision of people who embrace life."
— John Lennon

Now that I think about it, this is so true its incredible. People who have fear hate, dislike, despise, run away, put down others, and pretty much everything negative. People who accept themselves love others and everything around them. Only decay and destruction come with fear, but progress and growth come with love. :)


There's a big difference between "doing something with your life" and living a life full of meaning and purpose. The former is some bullshit which other people use to gauge who you are as a person and how you fit into their existence. The latter is personal and important.

It's best not to confuse the two.

- August

And what August said. The latter is all that should ever matter. I have been doing a lot of thinking about this and I have come to the conclusion that as long as your life has had meaning and purpose and you have enjoyed it, then you have definately done something with your life, more so than anyone who has never felt what you feel.

I'm not going to lie. I am in high school. I am young. I do not neccessarily enjoy it because most of the people, if not all, are only concerned with the former of august's quote and have almost 0 consideration for the latter. Its all about cliques and reputations and impressing others and dominating. In effect, not very many people really care for themselves enough to care for others in high school.

And I would probably amongst these monsters-for-kids, trying to fit in and "do something with my life" were it not for 3 things.
1.) me realizing how incredibly stupid and ridiculous religion was
2.) me realizing how incredibly stupid, ridiculous, and unfair capitalism was and its effects on people and that these kids are just products of it.
3.) and Last but most importantly, me finally finding, what I could say to be, possibly the love of my life. I had the other 2 for a while, but when I finally let her into my life, she completed it.

But again, Moral of the story folks: find meaning and purpose in your life. enjoy and savor the fulfillment you get from it, and you'll have done more than enough with your life.

[RHIZOMES]

who the hell are you hanging out with i know lots of "working class" people who are nihilistic drunks and live just to spend their paycheck on drugs and tattoos. millions of destitute youths "wing it" all the fuckin time.

How many of them are over 30?

[black magick hustla]

How many of them are over 30?

not one. but the old proletariat is dead. i am not saying i "wing it" because i don't, i generally have a sort of plan. i am not overtly ambitious but hey i am getting my phd in physics and made enough contacts so that i know how everything pans out if i don't go to academia, but the whole "hard workin stiff" or whatever is dead in the west

[praxis1966]

...the whole "hard workin stiff" or whatever is dead in the west

I think part of that has to do with shifts in Western capitalism. I don't know nearly as much as I'd like about your area (Canada)... But, overall, here in the US that image of the lunch pail and hardhat stereotype of the working class Joe has largely gone the way of the dodo because almost our entire economy has shifted into the service sector. Shit just doesn't get manufactured here anymore.

[black magick hustla]

I think part of that has to do with shifts in Western capitalism. I don't know nearly as much as I'd like about your area (Canada)... But, overall, here in the US that image of the lunch pail and hardhat stereotype of the working class Joe has largely gone the way of the dodo because almost our entire economy has shifted into the service sector. Shit just doesn't get manufactured here anymore.

i lived for some years in the us pal. i know more about the us than canada. and i agree.

[Lunatic Concept]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUiwTubYu0