Apocalypse survival and rebuilding society.

[Susurrus]

Who would you most be with when surviving an apocalypse and rebuilding society? You will have the ruins to scavenge for supplies, but you will need to defend yourself from the new dangers brought by the apocalypse(zombies, mutants, right-wing survivalists, whatever).

[A Revolutionary Tool]

All of revleft. There has to be a few girls amongst the thousands of members and some more that can shoot a gun. Plus we have a bunch of leftist books!

[Rusty Shackleford]

red army conscripts. pah. ill turn the entirety of revleft into red guards lol

[Tablo]

Various friends. We already have a plan for the zombie apocalypse, and they agree with my idea of a gift-economy based commune.

[bcbm]

me v. the world.. bring it

[Pioneers_Violin]

The Red Army conscripts.

Those guys lived off the land while beating back Hitlers army.
If they can do that, they can deal with a crummy old apocalypse.
Plus, I know a little Rusian so English is unneccesary.

[The Douche]

Out of those options, nobody.

I would out-survive all of you, bet.

[khad]

This one isn't even close. Of course you take the conscripts with the equipment. They have shovels and tools. Everyone else does not.

Moreover, the weapons are also tools.

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[piet11111]

the entirety of revleft just so we can have a drunken looting spree throughout the ruins of the liquor stores.

[Susurrus]

Actually the Viet Cong have the shovels and tools etc too.

[khad]

Actually the Viet Cong have the shovels and tools etc too.
25>20

weapons>no weapons

[Tommy4ever]

Stalin would gather us firewood, Hoxha would help him out.

I'd just relax out back with Lenin - someone's got to make sure that guy doesn't stress himself too much.

[Susurrus]

True but
25 kolkhozniks fresh off the farm, no combat experience, 67 years in the future.
20 battle-hardened experts in guerilla warfare who are used to scavenging and survival, 50 years in the future.

The choice is yours.

[khad]

True but
25 kolkhozniks fresh off the farm, no combat experience, 67 years in the future.
20 battle-hardened experts in guerilla warfare who are used to scavenging and survival, 50 years in the future.

The choice is yours.
I don't think you've ever had to live in a rural area. Peasants everywhere know how to forage and scrounge. They also understand how to grow their own food, which, if you're planning to rebuild society is kinda important.

People also need to get over the myth of Viet Cong uberguerrillas. The NVA were far better trained and equipped, and it was they who won the war while the VC were busy fragmenting and defecting after Tet.

[Susurrus]

Peasants everywhere know how to forage and scrounge. They also understand how to grow their own food, which, if you're planning to rebuild society is kinda important.


True, especially in the USSR.

[khad]

True, especially in the USSR.
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art29135.asp

[Ele'ill]

Nobody.

[Quail]

the entirety of revleft just so we can have a drunken looting spree throughout the ruins of the liquor stores.
Sounds like a plan.

[kitsune]

The first thing I thought of was tools and weapons, but those things can be made and acquired. What I like about the idea of a post-apocalyptic band of RevLefters, aside from building a functional community with like-minded leftists, is the security in numbers and the wide variety of useful skills. I can't be the only person here who knows how to grow and preserve food and has some wilderness survival skills, but there's also likely to be some of us with medical knowledge, mechanical skills, construction experience, electrical repair and maintenance, and many other things.

[Susurrus]

The first thing I thought of was tools and weapons, but those things can be made and acquired. What I like about the idea of a post-apocalyptic band of RevLefters, aside from building a functional community with like-minded leftists, is the security in numbers and the wide variety of useful skills. I can't be the only person here who knows how to grow and preserve food and has some wilderness survival skills, but there's also likely to be some of us with medical knowledge, mechanical skills, construction experience, electrical repair and maintenance, and many other things.

The only danger with the entirety of Revleft is that the differences in tendencies may lead to a "comrade leader of the flies" situation.

[Rusty Shackleford]

tools and weapons are easy to come by in the US.

[The Douche]

Am I the only person on here that thinks a bunch of socially awkward politically obsessed nerds, would only be a detriment to survival?

And also, what is the benefit of having a bunch of people who may be skilled at survival (like those mentioned in the poll), if you cannot communicate with them? Again, more of a hazard than its worth.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Am I the only person on here that thinks a bunch of socially awkward politically obsessed nerds, would only be a detriment to survival?

And also, what is the benefit of having a bunch of people who may be skilled at survival (like those mentioned in the poll), if you cannot communicate with them? Again, more of a hazard than its worth.
ideology can be motivational. also, very destructive and self destructive. it depends lol.

[The Douche]

ideology can be motivational. also, very destructive and self destructive. it depends lol.

When I envision the typical revleft poster, I do not see an individual who would be of much help to me in a survival situation, I could see them getting us killed though...

[Manic Impressive]

I was going to choose 45 random people but then I decided on the entirety of Revleft as it would mean that more people get to survive even if out of 25,000 there are only 1800.

[The Douche]

I was going to choose 45 random people but then I decided on the entirety of Revleft as it would mean that more people get to survive even if out of 25,000 there are only 1800.

At first I was like :rolleyes:...then I was like:thumbup:.

[Angry Young Man]

The entirety of revleft, if only to hide behind a rock and shout "KRONSTADT!!!!!!"

[Dogs On Acid]

Entirety of Revleft apart from OI is the best choice.

The fact that out of 29,000 members there are only 1,800 shows this.

EDIT:


I was going to choose 45 random people but then I decided on the entirety of Revleft as it would mean that more people get to survive even if out of 25,000 there are only 1800.

Oh man you beat me to it :(

[bcbm]

Am I the only person on here that thinks a bunch of socially awkward politically obsessed nerds, would only be a detriment to survival?


nope

[Broletariat]

I picked all of revleft, I would then proceed to abandon the mass of revleft along with other smart people and wait for them to get themselves killed and enjoy the new food source.

[Il Medico]

Six friends. Being the ever prepared young-ins we are, my closest friends and I have made detailed survival plans for almost every apocalyptic scenario.

[The Douche]

Six friends. Being the ever prepared young-ins we are, my closest friends and I have made detailed survival plans for almost every apocalyptic scenario.

Nerd.

[Magón]

I'd go down to Mexico, and put my back to the ocean. With chosen friends I guess.

[Sensible Socialist]

I chose the entirety of Revleft. I'd feed the ML's to the zombies and use the Trots as firewood. :lol:

[Il Medico]

Nerd.
Pfft. Nerds are good at math.

[La Comédie Noire]

Dude the Red Army conscripts every time.

[Princess Luna]

I picked All communist dictator's
Lenin- Will be the original leader, he gave his life so everybody else could escape
Stalin will be the leader
Mao will be the rival to the leader, they both have the best at heart but disagree on how to do it
Pol Pot will be the guy who seems to have some kind of hidden agenda, the other people are willing to let him in, but they keep a close eye on him to make sure he doesn't try anything
Kim-Jung-Il- is the jokester, even in the face of a certain death he can always think of a good pun or one liner
Ho Chi Min - Is the grizzled war veteran, he keeps to himself and does not talk much but he is the best shot there is
Hoxha- is young and reckless, several times his bravado has put the group at risk
Castro- is the doctor
Ceaușescu- is the love interest, he promised his heart to Stalin but actually loves Mao

[OhYesIdid]

Castro wasn't a doctor...
But I agree that tendency wars would be the end of us. Besides, who here has actually ever fired a gun?

Now, on the Russians vs. Vietnamese issue. I find it very interesting, although it depends on the apocalypse: in the typical Mad Max/Fallout scenario, it would be important to have a traditional army to fend off raiders and bandits. Zombies, on the other hand, would be a piece of cake for the Vietcong, and the scenario requires mobility, something these guys were good at. (I always imagine that it would be hard to "live off the land" in a zombie apocalypse, wouldn't animals and plants be infected, too?) To be fair, if the zombies were of supernatural origin, I think both armies would wet their pants and run home screaming about Baba Yaga and/or whatever Vietnamese people feared.

I picked the Vietnamese, btw

[Susurrus]

Besides, who here has actually ever fired a gun?


Me.

[The Douche]

Besides, who here has actually ever fired a gun?

Haha.

[Manic Impressive]

But I agree that tendency wars would be the end of us. Besides, who here has actually ever fired a gun?
shit I'm in the UK and even I've fired a gun

[OhYesIdid]

shit I'm in the UK and even I've fired a gun

Right back at ya: I live in goddammed motherfucking México, and I've never touched one.

(I hear them all the time, though, and policemen now walk around with M14s)

[Manic Impressive]

well you'd better learn how to shoot quick or you'll be one of the first to go in the zombie apocalypse

seriously though stay safe

[Johnny Kerosene]

Nobody. I can't think of 6 friend's that would actually be useful, well maybe I could do that then pick the two or three that'd be helpful and we could use the others as mules and/or emergency food sources. I would not pick the entirety of RevLeft, just no, too many pointless arguments about how society should be rebuilt as opposed to like, trying to not die, or even if everyone were only concerned with survival, I'd probably end up going insane because at least 50 of the people here would have a serious panic attack and be completely worthless. I don't speak Vietnamese, I don't speak Russian. With a group of leaders everyone would argue about who's way is best and they wouldn't agree on shit. I was going to say 45 random people, because that would probably also be the most realistic choice, as the likely of one being able to hand pick their companions in a post-apocalyptic society is pretty unlikely, but then I remembered that I live in America, and I remembered how most Americans, at least the one's near me, act, and decided I'd be better off alone.

[Dogs On Acid]

Nobody. I can't think of 6 friend's that would actually be useful, well maybe I could do that then pick the two or three that'd be helpful and we could use the others as mules and/or emergency food sources.

Have a happy death from Kuru.