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tradeunionsupporter
31st July 2011, 23:09
Bill Maher: Democrats Are the New Republicans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jc4U4ugi_4

What does everyone think of Bill Maher saying this I think he is right ?

Lenina Rosenweg
31st July 2011, 23:28
About time the liberal pundits making ditching the Dems. I have a feeling its superficial though, 2012 they'll be back to being Obamabots.

eric922
31st July 2011, 23:32
Well I could have told him that. The Repubicans have moved so far right it is scary and thus the democrats have moved to the right as well. I've heard the democrats used to be at least be a semi-labor party and used to stand up for workers at least to an extent, but as I'm only 21 I wasn't around then. They certainly haven't been in my lifetime.

Susurrus
31st July 2011, 23:43
I have a feeling its superficial though, 2012 they'll be back to being Obamabots.

They will support Obama in 2012, but more out of fear of a Republican(or a communist, for that matter) winning.

Terminator X
1st August 2011, 00:04
This video is 2 years old. But still relevant.

Maher is annoying, though.

stageleft
1st August 2011, 00:56
They will support Obama in 2012, but more out of fear of a Republican(or a communist, for that matter) winning.

This is how most of my comrades feel. Of course, we'd love if a communist got any position of power in the US, but voting for Obama (or just Democrats if it's not a presidential election year) is merely a (hopefully at least) preventative measure. I'm sad to say that I'll be taking part in that cycle when election time comes around, as I come of age in 2012.

Broletariat
1st August 2011, 00:59
This is how most of my comrades feel. Of course, we'd love if a communist got any position of power in the US, but voting for Obama (or just Democrats if it's not a presidential election year) is merely a (hopefully at least) preventative measure. I'm sad to say that I'll be taking part in that cycle when election time comes around, as I come of age in 2012.


Don't fall for the good cop bad cop bullshit routine the capitalists run on us all the damn time, whether it be republican versus democrat, new labour versus tory, anti-fascist versus fascist etc. etc.

ComradeMan
1st August 2011, 01:02
If the Democrats are the new Republicans---- who are the Republicans...? The new-----?:confused:

Jose Gracchus
1st August 2011, 02:25
Which is the same reason they always fall in line and vote. Soon the bourgeois media will be hard at work frothing up each side of lemmings in fear and loathing at the other bourgeois faction. If there ever was a bunch of theatrical farce unjustified by content, it is the shrillness of American political parties.

Why do you think being an American liberal consists of little else by high-pitched squealing and hysteria towards the least politic parts of the American right?

EDIT: Why did you post a 2 year old clip?

Princess Luna
1st August 2011, 04:59
If the Democrats are the new Republicans---- who are the Republicans...? The new-----?:confused:
http://www.ww2shots.com/gallery/d/3275-1/HISTORY+-+WWII+-+PHOTO+-+Hitler+during+a+Nazi+rally+in+Bueckeburg_+1934-ww2shots-people.gif

tradeunionsupporter
1st August 2011, 05:02
I agree with that.

Susurrus
1st August 2011, 05:13
http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/fascism.jpg

They aren't fascists yet, but who knows what the future holds.

ModelHomeInvasion
1st August 2011, 05:22
Wow, I have never ever heard anyone say this before :rolleyes:

Geiseric
1st August 2011, 05:28
Republicans want us to be a 3rd world country, democrats want us to be europe. However europe doesn't really work, as we see when we look at greece.

Aspiring Humanist
1st August 2011, 05:36
And Bill Maher is still the annoying asshole

RGacky3
1st August 2011, 08:03
but voting for Obama (or just Democrats if it's not a presidential election year) is merely a (hopefully at least) preventative measure. I'm sad to say that I'll be taking part in that cycle when election time comes around, as I come of age in 2012.

If leftist are going to vote I would say support a third party guy or if the democrats put in a challenge to Obama.

I'd rather a crazy republican president that faces a real opposition from the left, than a regular republican president without an opposition from the left.

I'd rather a republican not getting stuff done, than Obama getting stuff done.

Voting for a third party or a primary challenge will force (amung other things, like protests, strikes and so on) the Democrats to the left.


democrats want us to be europe.

No they don't, its really on Bernie Sanders and maybe a couple other dudes, and they are the farthest left we have in congress. The democrats are corporatists to, they hav'nt been a pro-labor party since bobby kennedy died, we do have the progressive caucus, but no one pays the slightest attention to them, even though they are the biggest block in the house, because many of them just play team-Obama

Has ANYONE mentioned the peoples budget in the mainstream media???

Anyway, voting for Obama just as a preventative measure is foolish, Bush or McCain could have NEVER passed the corporate welfare that was the "healthcare" bill, they could have never cut social security or medicare or medicaid, they could have NEVER given more tax cuts to the rich. All of this happened because Obama silenced the progressives in the democratic party and passed republican corporatist policy.

If your gonna vote, vote green, socialist, if they primary obama vote against obama, more importantly get involved with unions, anti-corporate organizations, community organizations.

ComradeMan
1st August 2011, 10:56
Republicans want us to be a 3rd world country, democrats want us to be europe. However europe doesn't really work, as we see when we look at greece.

Leaving aside ideologies for a second, isn't that a bit like saying the USA doesn't work when we look at Mississippi?