g8 Chicago 2012

[Ele'ill]

Anyone up for a summit demo?

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2011/07/409514.shtml

http://www.fightbacknews.org/2011/6/25/protests-called-nato-and-g8-summits-chicago-may-15-22-2012

www.google.com

[AnonymousOne]

Interesting. Depending upon my schedule, I very well might attend. That's very close, distance wise.

[Sensible Socialist]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

[bcbm]

i'll come hang

[Martin Blank]

I'll be there with other WPA folks.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I don't see why I wouldn't since I'm a midwestern woman.

[The Douche]

Summit hopping is sooooo 2001.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Some Wobblies and I are hoping to make it as well. Looks like the Revleft Convention may happen after all :lol:

[graymouser]

UNAC is trying to make the Saturday May 19 demo a mass, peaceful demonstration. Hopefully as things come closer a framework based on the Pittsburgh Principles from the 2009 G20 protests will come together:
http://pittsburghendthewar.org/PittsburghPrinciples.html

Not sure what the more anarchist flavored ones will be like. Depending on what's what at that time, I may or may not be in Chicago for the 19th.

[Ele'ill]

revleft bloc

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I'm already excited! Way ahead of time!

[bcbm]

chicago police brutality on the rise (http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/192349.html)

bring your helmets and foam armor sets kids

[Welshy]

I would be done with school for the semester by then, so i would be down.


chicago police brutality on the rise (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/192349.html)

bring your helmets and foam armor sets kidsDoes this mean we get to fight back? :P

[The Douche]

I would be down with school for the semester by then, so i would be down.

Does this mean we get to fight back? :P

You don't, you're not a totally sick-nasty insurrecto.


The MLs will be there with portraits of Che Guevara for you to carry though.

[Ele'ill]

chicago police brutality on the rise (http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/192349.html)

bring your helmets and foam armor sets kids

If you get caught with a helmet anywhere in Illinois within a month of the summit you'll be visiting a secret detention center somewhere.

Edit- actually this isn't usually the case- the pitts demo security stuff got put up overnight

[Susurrus]

DAMNIT i cant come. Smash some capitalist things for me, comrades.

[Ocean Seal]

Some Wobblies and I are hoping to make it as well. Looks like the Revleft Convention may happen after all :lol:
Lucky. Why couldn't these mofos come to the Northeast:lol:?

[bcbm]

If you get caught with a helmet anywhere in Illinois within a month of the summit you'll be visiting a secret detention center somewhere.

Edit- actually this isn't usually the case- the pitts demo security stuff got put up overnight

ride a motorcycle down

[Ele'ill]

'bicyclists everywhere tasered, abducted'

[Susurrus]

Everybody dress up as Red Army men and pretend to be traveling bands of WWII reenactors until the last minute.

[bcbm]

gross no, i block

[Ele'ill]

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/6130/runningshoes.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/runningshoes.jpg/)

[The Douche]

Nike bloc, inbound.

[Ele'ill]

It was the best photo/drawing of running shoes I could find on short notice. It was also a pain in the ass to make that little thing using a laptop meant for windows 95.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

If I'm drunk enough I won't feel a thing until the next morning.

[Tablo]

I would like to go. I guess it depends if I can catch a ride with others.

Edit: Might drive if I find others interested. Round trip is $180. xP

[Leftsolidarity]

I'm going to be there.

[Martin Blank]

Running shoes? No, no, no! If they've got horses and vehicles, you need steel-toe boots. There are some good lightweight pairs out there (Wal-Mart has their brand of basic steels for a decent price). Besides, if you have to defend yourself, I'd rather plant a steel toe in a cop's crotch than the flimsy pleather upper of a running shoe. :cool:

[ellipsis]

If somehow there is a free ride from the bay area, who knows, I might be there. Never been to a summit before.

[Ele'ill]

I'd do a road trip from Portland area but it's over two thousand miles. I wouldn't want to drive that unless I was moving back over to the east and I doubt the vehicle would make it halfway. How much are plane tickets? Who has hook-ups with it? Anyone in the Portland area actually want to make it a road trip?


Running shoes? No, no, no! If they've got horses and vehicles, you need steel-toe boots. There are some good lightweight pairs out there (Wal-Mart has their brand of basic steels for a decent price). Besides, if you have to defend yourself, I'd rather plant a steel toe in a cop's crotch than the flimsy pleather upper of a running shoe. :cool:

The steel toed boots might assist in the removal of your toes.

[Fawkes]

I'll be sure to tragically break my foot in the weeks leading up to this, thereby necessitating crutches

[Ele'ill]

They wouldn't let you have crutches- you'd get shot to death almost immediately...

[¿Que?]

So, I'm planning on going, and I would hope to meet some of you there!

Also this song:
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[Martin Blank]

The steel toed boots might assist in the removal of your toes.

Only if your toes get run over by a horse or vehicle. In a situation like that, thought, it's better to have had steel-toes on; they make it a lot easier for the doctors to repair your foot if the toes are cut off, as opposed to being crushed. Also, They make steel-toe boots and shoes really lightweight now, so you can run in them pretty well, to say nothing of defending yourself with them, if necessary.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

The steel toed boots might assist in the removal of your toes.

We had to wear these (http://workingperson.com/footwear-1/mens-steel-toe-boots/metatarsal-boots/carolina-boots-hi-met-guard-steel-toe-made-in-usa-boots-505-22573.html) when I worked in a coking plant.

http://workingperson.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/400x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_50761.jpg

[Metacomet]

If I could find any Boston peeps going I would.

[AnonymousOne]

I'm offically going. First time I've done a G8 summit.

[Leftsolidarity]

I'm offically going. First time I've done a G8 summit.

Same here. I've always watched videos and stuff but other than the protests in Madison, I've never been to such a large protest. I'm stoked.

[Leftsolidarity]

Also, it seems as if there are a lot of people who would go but need rides from different regions. Maybe it would be a good idea to set up a list of people from the region they are in that want to go that either can help out with rides or need one.

[Ele'ill]

If anyone is interested in getting a cheap motel room, finding a church to stay at, tent city or even sleeping in the landscaping somewhere let me know. It's obviously way in advance but early headcounts are awesome anyways. Thanks.

Also for relative security reasons it should probably be limited to long time users of the forum or people I've already marched/mingled with. I'd still like to meet up with everyone else though!

[Welshy]

If I could find any Boston peeps going I would.

I'm on the other side of Massachusetts but if you have a car and will pick me up, I would go lol. (I don't have a car)

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Also, it seems as if there are a lot of people who would go but need rides from different regions. Maybe it would be a good idea to set up a list of people from the region they are in that want to go that either can help out with rides or need one.
This would be good, because I'd totally go if I could get a ride from the Central Valley in California.

[Luc]

I would love to go but there are many problems in my way and I got alot of questions:lol:

Is it possible to get a pass port without your parents knowing?

Can you go to jail for going to a protest?

what I mean is I've been watching stuff about G20 Toronto and people were detained... does that lead to conviction and going to jail?

If so, what would happen to a Canadian citizen?

This may be a stupid question but is it safe to travel to another country for this protest by yourself?

[Metacomet]

I'm on the other side of Massachusetts but if you have a car and will pick me up, I would go lol. (I don't have a car)


I don't have a car either.

And in September 2012 I'm probably moving for grad school (crossing my fingers for Vancouver or Toronto)

If not and I end up going to grad school here. I might have a car :D

[Metacomet]

I would love to go but there are many problems in my way and I got alot of questions:lol:

Is it possible to get a pass port without your parents knowing?

Can you go to jail for going to a protest?

what I mean is I've been watching stuff about G20 Toronto and people were detained... does that lead to conviction and going to jail?

If so, what would happen to a Canadian citizen?

This may be a stupid question but is it safe to travel to another country for this protest by yourself?


You can get a passport without your parents knowing if your over 18 that is. The other stuff I'm not sure off. Except the last question, I don't see why it wouldn't be as safe as just about anything else. This is the U.S, not Haiti or something.

[Leftsolidarity]

I would love to go but there are many problems in my way and I got alot of questions:lol:

Is it possible to get a pass port without your parents knowing?

Can you go to jail for going to a protest?

what I mean is I've been watching stuff about G20 Toronto and people were detained... does that lead to conviction and going to jail?

If so, what would happen to a Canadian citizen?

This may be a stupid question but is it safe to travel to another country for this protest by yourself?


Honestly that sounds like a really bad idea

[Welshy]

I don't have a car either.

And in September 2012 I'm probably moving for grad school (crossing my fingers for Vancouver or Toronto)

If not and I end up going to grad school here. I might have a car :D

Ah damn, now we need to find another person in Massachusetts to drive us.

[Luc]

Honestly that sounds like a really bad idea

Yes, yes It does. I really gotta think this through better but perhaps it'll be a good test of my commitment to the Revolution:laugh:

I'm going to look for a S. Ontario group that I might be able to join or somthing.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

You can get a passport without your parents knowing if your over 18 that is. The other stuff I'm not sure off. Except the last question, I don't see why it wouldn't be as safe as just about anything else. This is the U.S, not Haiti or something.
Well, Chicago is a really rough city. As long as you know where you are and keep your head on straight, you'll be fine. Last time I went, there seemed to be an increase of homeless people. However, being that it's the G8, they might "clean up" that problem (push them off the popular/main streets for a few days...)

[Luc]

Well, Chicago is a really rough city. As long as you know where you are and keep your head on straight, you'll be fine. Last time I went, there seemed to be an increase of homeless people. However, being that it's the G8, they might "clean up" that problem (push them off the popular/main streets for a few days...)


Yeah, that what I was worried about and I might have to go through Detroit to get there :unsure:

[Fawkes]

I would love to go but there are many problems in my way and I got alot of questions:lol:

Is it possible to get a pass port without your parents knowing?

Can you go to jail for going to a protest?

what I mean is I've been watching stuff about G20 Toronto and people were detained... does that lead to conviction and going to jail?

If so, what would happen to a Canadian citizen?

This may be a stupid question but is it safe to travel to another country for this protest by yourself?
Yes, you can go to jail for going to a protest. Don't listen to bullshit about cops only arresting you if they see you doing something illegal, cops routinely perform sweeps where anyone and everyone unlucky enough to get caught will be detained. These are typically only done when a protest develops to the point of property damage (or the threat of it), but this is G8, so it probably will.

I'm not too familiar with non-citizens being arrested, it has the potential to either be helpful in that the cops may just let you go cause they don't feel like dealing with the bullshit, or it could make things worse because you have to deal with the bullshit. But yes, it's safe in that you're not gonna disappear nor are you gonna be imprisoned unless they can pin something on you. And even then, you are a minor and a foreign citizen, you should be okay. If you do end up arrested, your parents will almost certainly have to find out. However, it's not safe in that there's a possibility you could be coughing up pepper spray, nursing a concussion, and mending bones.

And being detained is not the same as being arrested. I mean, technically you are "under arrest" in that you are not free to leave, but you're not gonna get booked and charged unless there's something they can pin on you. And you're definitely not gonna get imprisoned (as in sentenced) unless you're convicted of something pretty serious.

You'll probably be alright as far as serious legal ramifications go, it's G8, there's gonna be plenty of adult U.S. citizens there the cops can fuck over with considerably less paperwork, just make sure you know the risks and that it's very possible your parents may find out

[Luc]

You'll probably be alright as far as serious legal ramifications go, it's G8, there's gonna be plenty of adult U.S. citizens there the cops can fuck over with considerably less paperwork, just make sure you know the risks and that it's very possible your parents may find out

Thanks!
Hm... my parents finding out eh?:lol: Do you get a phone call in a situation like this?

[Leftsolidarity]

Yes, yes It does. I really gotta think this through better but perhaps it'll be a good test of my commitment to the Revolution:laugh:

I'm going to look for a S. Ontario group that I might be able to join or somthing.

A g8 summit isn't something you should go through THAT much trouble to get too in my view. I would say wait until you're 18 (I am shortly before g8 haha) or wait until it is atleast in your country then go to one.

[Fawkes]

Thanks!
Hm... my parents finding out eh?:lol: Do you get a phone call in a situation like this?

Haha, I know, TERROR! Just figured that may be a concern given that I'm assuming you're a minor. I'm having trouble finding specific state laws regarding phone calls, but a couple different sources (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=arrested+phone+call+right+state+law+illinois&pbx=1&oq=arrested+phone+call+right+state+law+illinois&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=13283l16865l0l17097l19l14l0l0l0l1l984l9795l 6-11l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=81eba942b626e508&biw=800&bih=509) seem to indicate that forbidding you from making phone calls violates your right to legal representation. I don't mean to sound so dramatic, cause in all honesty, unless things go absolutely apeshit and you're in the middle of it and get caught, you should be fine.

[Leftsolidarity]

cause in all honesty, unless things go absolutely apeshit

One could only hope :thumbup1:

[Luc]

Haha, I know, TERROR! Just figured that may be a concern given that I'm assuming you're a minor. I'm having trouble finding specific state laws regarding phone calls, but a couple different sources (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=arrested+phone+call+right+state+law+illinois&pbx=1&oq=arrested+phone+call+right+state+law+illinois&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=13283l16865l0l17097l19l14l0l0l0l1l984l9795l 6-11l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=81eba942b626e508&biw=800&bih=509) seem to indicate that forbidding you from making phone calls violates your right to legal representation. I don't mean to sound so dramatic, cause in all honesty, unless things go absolutely apeshit and you're in the middle of it and get caught, you should be fine.

I'll be a minor (will just turn 16 by g8)

Not sure if I have rights in U.S because I'm not a citizen though:confused:

[Luc]

A g8 summit isn't something you should go through THAT much trouble to get too in my view. I would say wait until you're 18 (I am shortly before g8 haha) or wait until it is atleast in your country then go to one.

Yeah I guess your right :( :laugh:

Good luck at Chicago all, I'll be watchin on TV:thumbup1:

[Fawkes]

I'll be a minor (will just turn 16 by g8)

Not sure if I have rights in U.S because I'm not a citizen though:confused:

Yes you do. You have full constitutional and legal protection, though cops and employers often try to obscure this. Also, apparently if you are arrested the officer is required (http://www.lawcollective.org/article.php?id=185) to notify your consulate.