Need Help With This School

[xub3rn00dlex]

Hey fellow revolutionaries, I am coming to you once more seeking help. This time it is not for me, but for my best friend. I am trying to help inform her as fully as possible in order for her to make the best decision she can in regards to choosing med school, and I am asking you here to perhaps donate some of your opinions and experiences and knowledge to also assist her.

She is in her third year of college attending Fordham University, and will be applying to med school to pursue her dreams. She is becoming extremely stressed out with the high requirements demanded by med schools, especially in NY which is where she would prefer to stay.

Recently she attended a summer program in Virginia where she got to meet with different representatives of different med schools, doctors, nurses, etc, and has become interested in a school called the Uniform Services University of the Health Sciences. Her reasons for seeking this option vary, but mainly revolve around reduced to no cost attendance and lower requirements compared to other med schools.

The school is run by the armed forces, and would require her commitment for several years (without her choice whatsoever) to the military and what ever location/ occupation they deem necessary. My question then is does anyone know of this school or similar schools like it? Does anyone have any experience in regards to attending med schools ( or any schools for that matter ) in return for military service? I am trying to convince her that there are other options ( Cuba, and even all my leftism aside, is an excellent choice for medical professions ) and am doing my best to sway her aside from trading up several years of her life in turn for an alternate med school, when there are several better options than this. Any opinions are HIGHLY appreciated. Thank you so much for your time.

[Binh]

Question: why are you trying to convince your friend not to go this route? Are you worried about personal safety or is this political, i.e. anti-imperialism, etc.?

[xub3rn00dlex]

This is apolitical. I'm worried about where this path would lead her, even though it is still up in the air and nothing is certain. I know her better than she knows herself at times, and I don't want her making a wrong choice and being forced to spend years paying for it. I'm not trying to force my views upon her or any of that, I let her know I would ask for leftist opinions and views on choosing this school because I know it would shed a completely different light on the situation.

[ComradePonov]

Hey fellow revolutionaries, I am coming to you once more seeking help. This time it is not for me, but for my best friend. I am trying to help inform her as fully as possible in order for her to make the best decision she can in regards to choosing med school, and I am asking you here to perhaps donate some of your opinions and experiences and knowledge to also assist her.

She is in her third year of college attending Fordham University, and will be applying to med school to pursue her dreams. She is becoming extremely stressed out with the high requirements demanded by med schools, especially in NY which is where she would prefer to stay.

Recently she attended a summer program in Virginia where she got to meet with different representatives of different med schools, doctors, nurses, etc, and has become interested in a school called the Uniform Services University of the Health Sciences. Her reasons for seeking this option vary, but mainly revolve around reduced to no cost attendance and lower requirements compared to other med schools.

The school is run by the armed forces, and would require her commitment for several years (without her choice whatsoever) to the military and what ever location/ occupation they deem necessary. My question then is does anyone know of this school or similar schools like it? Does anyone have any experience in regards to attending med schools ( or any schools for that matter ) in return for military service? I am trying to convince her that there are other options ( Cuba, and even all my leftism aside, is an excellent choice for medical professions ) and am doing my best to sway her aside from trading up several years of her life in turn for an alternate med school, when there are several better options than this. Any opinions are HIGHLY appreciated. Thank you so much for your time.


Here in canada, the army will pay for your education and living costs if you commit to do a few years service after med school.

I have a friend who took this route. He told me he spend most of his years in a trainning facility and was never deployed abroad. This is only in Canada though, I'm not sure about the situation in America.


I'm afraid this is the only contribution I can give. I know nothing else regarding this subject and as such do not want to spread false information.

[xub3rn00dlex]

Here in canada, the army will pay for your education and living costs if you commit to do a few years service after med school.

I have a friend who took this route. He told me he spend most of his years in a trainning facility and was never deployed abroad. This is only in Canada though, I'm not sure about the situation in America.


I'm afraid this is the only contribution I can give. I know nothing else regarding this subject and as such do not want to spread false information.

The way the sergeant explained it to her went along similar lines. She gets a free ride through their med school, and also makes extra during that time. Her residency would be on a military base of their choosing ( can be over seas in occupied territories ) , and after 4 years of doing this, she would owe them another 7-8 years of military service in any location they saw fit. I'm more worried about her personal safety, but also that of her future since what she wants to do with her career conflicts with making this decision. I keep bringing up going to other countries and getting her med school education done there, but she's reluctant to that idea. I'm willing to get in contact with universities in Cuba and see if they would be willing to offer her placement and assistance, but she has "Cuba-fear"

[LegendZ]

Recently she attended a summer program in Virginia where she got to meet with different representatives of different med schools, doctors, nurses, etc, and has become interested in a school called the Uniform Services University of the Health Sciences. Her reasons for seeking this option vary, but mainly revolve around reduced to no cost attendance and lower requirements compared to other med schools.


The school is run by the armed forces, and would require her commitment for several years (without her choice whatsoever) to the military and what ever location/ occupation they deem necessary. My question then is does anyone know of this school or similar schools like it? Yeah there are a couple of schools like this. One that I can think of is West Point, Annapolis, Citadel ect.
Does anyone have any experience in regards to attending med schools ( or any schools for that matter ) in return for military service? Yeah I had a cousin that went to the Citadel. He became a pilot and is now a SRO(School Resource Officer). I never heard him complain about it but that may be him. There's a reason why he still isn't in I just don't know it.
I am trying to convince her that there are other options ( Cuba, and even all my leftism aside, is an excellent choice for medical professions )How probable would it be for her to actually GET to Cuba? While Cuba may be good for Medical professions would anywhere in the States accept a degree from Cuba?
and am doing my best to sway her aside from trading up several years of her life in turn for an alternate med school, when there are several better options than this. Any opinions are HIGHLY appreciated. Thank you so much for your time.Well she could take out some loans to pay for school. Federal Assistance programs ect. There's money out there you just need to look for it.

Other than seven years service you need to ask her if she really wants to have someone dictating her life for what should be 10+ years. Every. Single. Day. To. The. Hour. Have someone critiquing her not only on her doctors work but other duty's as well. It won't be "seven years of medical work" It will be seven years of medical work + leading + additional schools + 6 month to 15 month deployments in a "hostile" environment. Not being able to spend much time with family/ friends. She would work longer hours and be paid less than her civilian counterparts.

This won't be normal someone gets sick work. This will be someone lost their arm/leg or has a bullet in their chest and needs to be operated on IMMEDIATELY. On a weekly/daily basis for Months to a year AND some. She's going to see something she probably never wanted to see. She needs to know this last thing. She will probably see someone die. I can almost GUARANTEE she will see someone die. She'll probably see a lot of people die. She'll be under an incredible work load and will need to cope more than any normal doctor would. She'll have to do this and come back home and act like everything is normal. Then she will have to do it all again. for seven years.

[LegendZ]

Additionally this will probably ruin the medical field for her.
Show her this video.
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[ComradePonov]

The way the sergeant explained it to her went along similar lines. She gets a free ride through their med school, and also makes extra during that time. Her residency would be on a military base of their choosing ( can be over seas in occupied territories ) , and after 4 years of doing this, she would owe them another 7-8 years of military service in any location they saw fit. I'm more worried about her personal safety, but also that of her future since what she wants to do with her career conflicts with making this decision. I keep bringing up going to other countries and getting her med school education done there, but she's reluctant to that idea. I'm willing to get in contact with universities in Cuba and see if they would be willing to offer her placement and assistance, but she has "Cuba-fear"


The problem with that is, do the hospitals in the US accept Cuba as a legitimate education route? If they don't, she might have to do four or five years of "education" again in America.

I say this because I know a person who was a doctor in Iran but now has to spend another five or six years in a Canadian education facility just to be able to practice medicine. They don't accept his degree because it is not from Canada.

[Kamos]

So she is really down with doing 7-8 years of military service after med school, after which she may not even get an appropriate job? Just tell her that this will be the biggest mistake of her life, and explain why. If this doesn't help, then nothing will. In fact, just ask her why she really wants to go to that med school. I really can't see why.

[ComradePonov]

So she is really down with doing 7-8 years of military service after med school, after which she may not even get an appropriate job? Just tell her that this will be the biggest mistake of her life, and explain why. If this doesn't help, then nothing will. In fact, just ask her why she really wants to go to that med school. I really can't see why.


I can see why. They pay for your education, and its also a lot easier to get into these types of medical schools.


If you don't have the money you can be in debt for the next 40 years once you finish medical school. This way you get out debt free for a couple years of military service (which was based entirely in Canada for my friend.)


Honestly, I'm not sure about the situation in America. So I can't say if it's good or bad. I can, however, see why she would want to do it.

[xub3rn00dlex]

Thank you all so much for your replies. I had the same ideas in mind, plus some new ones from you guys. I relayed the information to her and the biggest thing that got through to her was the hierarchal structure in the military. In the US, the military will pay for schooling the same way it does in Canada, in return for an equal ( or unequal ) amount of servitude in the armed forces. The people dying part doesn't phase her as much, since it's going to happen regardless she says, but she doesn't at all fancy the idea of being forced to obey commands a superior officer might deem important, even if those commands go against her personal beliefs. She is open to exploring other opportunities for a less costly education, and I'm going to try to let her know options in other countries around the world. This might prove difficult as she doesn't really like the idea of leaving the state for med school.