Italian Northern League-Some of Brevik's ideas are "good", in some cases "excellent"

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

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Italy MEP backs ideas of Norway killer Breivik

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An Italian MEP has described the ideas of Norway's self-confessed mass killer, Anders Behring Breivik, as "good" and in some cases "excellent".
Mario Borghezio, who belongs to the Northern League party, condemned Mr Breivik's violence, but backed his stance against Islam.
The Northern League is a partner in PM Silvio Berlusconi's government.
Mr Borghezio's comments in a radio interview sparked outrage, with opposition calls for the MEP to resign.
Mr Breivik's justification for killing 76 people was that he wanted to inflict maximum damage on Norway's governing Labour Party because of its failure to clamp down on immigration.
"Some of the ideas he expressed are good, barring the violence. Some of them are great," Mario Borghezio told Il Sole-24 Ore radio station.
He agreed with Mr Breivik's "opposition to Islam and his explicit accusation that Europe has surrendered before putting up a fight against its Islamicisation".
The Northern League is an avowedly anti-immigration, regionalist Italian political party, key to the governing coalition, and known for its anti-immigrant, anti-Islamic rhetoric.

I was going to post something thoughtful but after reading this I need to go vomit in a can.

:cursing:

[danyboy27]

somehow i feel brevik action will spell the doom for many right wing groups.
too stupid to realize how much they alienate themselves from the rest of the population, they will openely support his stance, and beccause of that, they will become even more marginalised.

[RadioRaheem84]

Do not forget Pat Buchanan, a right wing nut in the States:



As for a climactic conflict between a once-Christian West and an Islamic world that is growing in numbers and advancing inexorably into Europe for the third time in 14 centuries, on this one, Breivik may be right.


http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/07/25/a-fire-bell-in-the-night-for-norway/

[RadioRaheem84]

Breivik said in his manifesto that other right wingers will condemn his actions, even genuinely, but he says they will all say that he is right and that his message needs to be heard.

[Reznov]

somehow i feel brevik action will spell the doom for many right wing groups.
too stupid to realize how much they alienate themselves from the rest of the population, they will openely support his stance, and beccause of that, they will become even more marginalised.

It should be noted that the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler also were very unpopular in the beginning as well.

[danyboy27]

It should be noted that the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler also were very unpopular in the beginning as well.

correction, they where always fairly unpopular, without the decision from the conservatives to appoint hitler, they would never been able to get into power.

extreme right wing movements depend on the momentum of a crisis to get into power and to get some popularity, when this momentum is stopped or the crisis diverted, and their movements die out.

[agnixie]

correction, they where always fairly unpopular, without the decision from the conservatives to appoint hitler, they would never been able to get into power.

extreme right wing movements depend on the momentum of a crisis to get into power and to get some popularity, when this momentum is stopped or the crisis diverted, and their movements die out.

Actually they got a combined 44% of the vote with their main coalition partner in the 1932 legislative elections while the conservatives had fallen to 10% of the vote.

[Tommy4ever]

correction, they where always fairly unpopular, without the decision from the conservatives to appoint hitler, they would never been able to get into power.

extreme right wing movements depend on the momentum of a crisis to get into power and to get some popularity, when this momentum is stopped or the crisis diverted, and their movements die out.

This is not entirely true.

Whilst from their foundation until the beginning of the depression their support for negligible (around 3% of the vote) after it they really became very popular.

In the first post depression election their vote lept up form 3% to 18%. Then in the first election of 1932 they reached 38% and from then in the following two elections they got 33% then 44% of the vote. That is really rather popular.

In comparison in 2005 the Labour Party in Britain formed a government with just 35% of the vote, and needless to say turnout in Germany of the early 30s was much, much higher - inferring a really huge portion of support from the public.

Interestingly, until the final election in March 1933 the KPD actually saw gains in each election (although they were very small scale).

[Crux]

Fascists will be fascists.

[danyboy27]

Actually they got a combined 44% of the vote with their main coalition partner in the 1932 legislative elections while the conservatives had fallen to 10% of the vote.

and yet they where not able to get more than 203 of their candidates elected of 608 on the reichstag, they where not a majority, and the election of november demostrated that the support of the nazi party was going in decreasing, probably beccause the worst of the economic crisis was over.

without The intervention of von papen to put hitler chancellor, the nazi would have continued to loose support, the weirmar republic would have continued to function, probably with a coalition.

Now, the only reason why the conservative party gave to hitler the job of chancellor was beccause they expected him to be easily manipulated and controlled. Bad move, bunch of them got killed in the process.

[Jazzratt]

somehow i feel brevik action will spell the doom for many right wing groups. Perhaps. On the other hand the way the media has reported it has been a shambles and you can often hear a certain kind of wazzock holding forth that while it's obviously not right to shoot kids this is sort of the muslims fault anyway because they were there to make him angry. That kind of thinking is especially prevelent amongst the gullible and frightened, that is to say the exact demographic that right wingers aim for.

[CHE with an AK]

"Some of the ideas he expressed are good, barring the violence. Some of them are great." — Mario Borghezio


From my own reading of his manifesto and the reports on it, it seems his ideology combines:


* ultranationalism
* Islamaphobia
* Christian identity
* right-wing populism
* cultural conservatism
* racial segregationism
* right-wing paramilitarism
* neo-fascism
* white supremacism
* Nordicism
* nativism
* xenophobia
* a fear of "Eurabia"
* anti-communism
* anti-multiculturalism
* Likudnik Zionism
* an appreciation for the EDL & U.S. Tea Party
* Christian crusader mythology
* a paranoia of "cultural Marxism"



... Basically a "greatest hits" of both the American & European right-wing