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Havet
25th July 2011, 18:57
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i'm particularly interested in looking for opinions on the top comment:


Facts of Western Society:
- If a man gets raped he is not taken seriously and told he wanted it.
- If a man gets beaten by a woman he is a pussy and will not be taken seriously.
- If a man's penis gets cut off, its probably deserved and reason to celebrate.
- If a man shouts at a woman, its verbal abuse, the other way around does not exist.
- If a woman mentally abuses a man and manipulate him, the man is considered weak.


Equality is equality. Stick by it. Sound advice? Or is it 'anti-feminist' in any way?

#FF0000
25th July 2011, 19:08
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Equality is equality. Stick by it. Sound advice? Or is it 'anti-feminist' in any way?

All of those things in the top comment are results of patriarchy and of traditional gender roles, which is what feminists are targeting. If someone seriously drags out these points (which are totally true) and tries to pin them on feminism, then they're just betrayed their complete ignorance of feminism.

Thirsty Crow
25th July 2011, 19:20
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1. It's unlikely that the horrifying experience of rape would be experienced almost the same way by men and women in contemporary society, which is a result of cultural norms which function as part of structural sexism (males are expected to be "masculine" and sexually agressive; to be clear, I don't support such notions even in the slightest, and personally I do not exhibit even a trace of such characteristics). I don't see how feminism and the politics of gender equality in practice, and not only in legislation/on paper, has anything to do with it. Of course, rape is rape and I don't think it's true that males cannot be raped.

2. What a load of sexist crap. Again, how does feminism and gender equality have anything to do with this?

3. Straw man and deranged. I don't think that there are a whole lot of feminists that would openly condone and even celebrate such an act.

4. Of course the other way around exists. Again, who argued, and where, that it does not? Of course, it wouldn't be accurate to assume that such acts are the same since there is a possibility of a threat of physical violence, most commonly associated with male behavior in such situations.

5. And yet again, what does this prejudice have to do with feminism and politics of gender equality?

Havet
25th July 2011, 19:26
3. Straw man and deranged. I don't think that there are a whole lot of feminists that would openly condone and even celebrate such an act.


That makes it sound like there ARE some who could condone and celebrate such an act. Is it true, or where you just saying for saying?

Thirsty Crow
25th July 2011, 19:36
That makes it sound like there ARE some who could condone and celebrate such an act. Is it true, or where you just saying for saying?
I haven't seen or heard any self-described feminist, or anyone for that matter, condoning such an act. I wrote that as a rhetorical figure since I could allow for the possibility of certain people who are taking the fight for gender equality too far into the territory of plain hate and malice, but I'm not aware of aynone doing so.

Ingraham Effingham
25th July 2011, 20:09
Actually it sounds anti-masculine, making it seem like all men are driven by their need to establish their manhood to the world.

Viet Minh
26th July 2011, 02:03
I made it to 1 minute of that video. :thumbdown:


- If a man gets raped he is not taken seriously and told he wanted it.

When, where? The myth is that women want to be raped, or provoke it in some way, wheras male rape, that is male-on-male rape is a huge taboo, far more so than rape of females which is sometimes even seen as a joke. One thing that annoys me though is the assumption that only males can abuse children, emotionally, physically or sexually. Females sometimes do this too but it often goes unreported because children still aren't believed.


- If a man gets beaten by a woman he is a pussy and will not be taken seriously.

Feminists did not invent gender stereotypes


- If a man's penis gets cut off, its probably deserved and reason to celebrate.

In that video nobody is celebrating, its a very bad taste joke the reason its shocking is because we're not used to women speaking openly.


- If a man shouts at a woman, its verbal abuse, the other way around does not exist.

i don't even..


- If a woman mentally abuses a man and manipulate him, the man is considered weak.

If anyone mentally abuses anyone they are considered a psychopath. In male-dominated society protocol dictates that males are in control so yes, that is probably a view that some people would take. Feminism is about removing these power structures though not replacing them.