¿List of Reactionary Websites?

[Libertador]

I'm wondering what websites (aside from here and Stormfront) Reactionaries such as yourselves tend to populate. I'm looking for good reading material.

Please and thanks.

[ComradeMan]

I'm wondering what websites (aside from here and Stormfront) Reactionaries such as yourselves tend to populate. I'm looking for good reading material.

Please and thanks.

Fuck off. Most of the people here are not rightwingers and don't tend to populate rightwing sites and any that do are usually banned quickly, not restricted to OI.

As for "good reading" material. What?

[Flying Trotsky]

I'm wondering what websites (aside from here and Stormfront) Reactionaries such as yourselves tend to populate. I'm looking for good reading material.

Please and thanks.

I'm not one for picking pointless fights, but this is uncalled for. If you think the people here are reactionaries, you're free to do so, and I encourage you to debate us or criticize us for what you believe to be our shortcomings.

But if you want to just insult someone while hiding behind internet anonymity, go to YouTube.

[ComradeMan]

I'm not one for picking pointless fights, but this is uncalled for. If you think the people here are reactionaries, you're free to do so, and I encourage you to debate us or criticize us for what you believe to be our shortcomings.

But if you want to just insult someone while hiding behind internet anonymity, go to YouTube.

Is it just me or has RevLeft got a nasty atmosphere recently?

No comradeliness whatsoever.... :(

[RedAnarchist]

We don't allow stormfronters to post here, so no OI is a member of that particular forum. Most OI'ers are actually centrists or liberals.

[Flying Trotsky]

I've been getting the same vibe.

I don't know what it is- people just can't seem to let things slide. It's a damn shame.

[ComradeMan]

We don't allow stormfronters to post here, so no OI is a member of that particular forum. Most OI'ers are actually centrists or liberals.

I wouldn't even say that. Most OI-ers are here because they have disagreed on one or two points and were deemed "reactionary" at some stage- there are some that fall into your bracket I suppose but I don't think they are the majority at all.

Opposing Ideologies Forum for opposing ideologies and beliefs to be discussed; only forum where right-wingers, capitalists, preachers, primitivists, and other restricted members can post. *No Fascists*

I suggest...

Opposing Ideologies Forum for dissidents and as well as the only forum where social-democrats, liberals, centrists, agorists, anarcho-capitalists, third-worldists, preachers and primitivists may post. *No Nazis/Fascists/Rightwingers*

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[Flying Trotsky]

Whoa there- why are primitivists and third-worldists in the 'opposing ideologies' section? I can understand people disagreeing with 'em, but I'd hardly say there's anything about them that defies the most fundamental tenets of Marxism...

[RedAnarchist]

I wouldn't even say that. Most OI-ers are here because they have disagreed on one or two points and were deemed "reactionary" at some stage- there are some that fall into your bracket I suppose but I don't think they are the majority at all.

Opposing Ideologies Forum for opposing ideologies and beliefs to be discussed; only forum where right-wingers, capitalists, preachers, primitivists, and other restricted members can post. *No Fascists*

I suggest...

Opposing Ideologies Forum for dissidents and as well as the only forum where social-democrats, liberals, centrists, agorists, anarcho-capitalists, third-worldists, preachers and primitivists may post. *No Nazis/Fascists/Rightwingers*

:thumbup1:

What was the reason for your restriction?

[Apoi_Viitor]

Fuck off.


Is it just me or has RevLeft got a nasty atmosphere recently?

Is it just me, or was your first response to this thread unnecessarily nasty?

[RGacky3]

Why, I don't get it, why would you want to do that? Its pointless.

[eric922]

First of all I'd hardly consider the majority of the posters in OI to be reactionaries. That's a type of scorn I reserve for the Right. However, simply because I feel like being nice. Google Free Republic. It's about as reactionary as it gets, both in terms of content and software.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Why, I don't get it, why would you want to do that? Its pointless. I suppose it's sort of like when Glenn Beck tells everyone to read "The Coming Insurrection" in order to "know their enemy".

[eric922]

I suppose it's sort of like when Glenn Beck tells everyone to read "The Coming Insurrection" in order to "know their enemy".
People who watch Glen Beck can read?

[o well this is ok I guess]

People who watch Glen Beck can read? They leave hilarious reviews on Amazon.
Go on, look at any negative review for any vaguely left book ever.
They'll never talk about the book.
Just communism.

[RGacky3]

I suppose it's sort of like when Glenn Beck tells everyone to read "The Coming Insurrection" in order to "know their enemy".

If you want to know the enemy, ignore the right wing websites and stormfronters and so on. Read the Financial Times or the Economist.

[CommunityBeliever]

Reactionary websites:

http://www.usa.gov/

[Libertador]

Thanks for not answering my question and rather turning this thread into a "WTFH we're not fascists!111" thread.


Fuck off.
Stay classy.

[Kamos]

I'm wondering what websites (aside from here and Stormfront) Reactionaries such as yourselves tend to populate. I'm looking for good reading material.

Please and thanks.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=conservative+forum

This might be a start.

[Thirsty Crow]

Whoa there- why are primitivists and third-worldists in the 'opposing ideologies' section? I can understand people disagreeing with 'em, but I'd hardly say there's anything about them that defies the most fundamental tenets of Marxism...
From my understanding, primitivists advocate, in one form or another, a regression into a pre-civilizational/pre-technological/pre-agricultural social condition, namely one form of a hunter gatherer society, which would result in massive loss of human life, and that's why I agree with their restriction.

3rd-worldists advocate that workers in the "west", advanced capitalist economies are not exploited and that they've become integrated into imperialism, and therefore that their interests colludes with that of the imperialists. I don't think that I need to explain what is reacionary about this.

[Flying Trotsky]

Thanks for not answering my question and rather turning this thread into a "WTFH we're not fascists!111" thread.


Stay classy.

Don't act like the martyr here- you're the one who started up a needlessly insulting thread. I might not like how you were responded to, but don't imagine for a minute that you hold the moral high-ground.

[Flying Trotsky]

From my understanding, primitivists advocate, in one form or another, a regression into a pre-civilizational/pre-technological/pre-agricultural social condition, namely one form of a hunter gatherer society, which would result in massive loss of human life, and that's why I agree with their restriction.

3rd-worldists advocate that workers in the "west", advanced capitalist economies are not exploited and that they've become integrated into imperialism, and therefore that their interests colludes with that of the imperialists. I don't think that I need to explain what is reacionary about this.

But surely we're restricting these groups based on the perspectives of a handful of their most extreme members. Not all primitivists believe in heading clear back to the stone age- there are plenty who simply want to rethink the role of technology in our society. Same for third-worldists. Not every third-worldist denies the presence of oppression and exploitation in the first world- in fact, I know third-wordlists who really want to champion the cause of Black Liberation and rights for Native Americans.

It just seems like we're unfairly judging an entire group for the beliefs of a few.

[Libertador]

Don't act like the martyr here- you're the one who started up a needlessly insulting thread. I might not like how you were responded to, but don't imagine for a minute that you hold the moral high-ground.I just wanted my question answered. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised; this is the Internet after all.

Chill out dude.


Not all primitivists believe in heading clear back to the stone age- there are plenty who simply want to rethink the role of technology in our society. Exactly. Some people who claim the label of primitivist may better fit the description of Neo-Luddite rather than truly being an anti-civilization primitivist.

[Flying Trotsky]

I just wanted my question answered.

Hm- let's see exactly what you wrote.


I'm wondering what websites (aside from here and Stormfront) Reactionaries such as yourselves tend to populate.

You called everyone on Rev Left a reactionary. Did you need to insult us? Nope, but for whatever reason, you chose to add that in there. You didn't just want your question answered. Nobody asks a question and then punches the person they're asking.

And know what? I could tolerate that. But now you're acting as if you're the one being attacked. You want to pick a fight, fine, but at least have the guts to stick to your guns.

[RedAnarchist]

You called everyone on Rev Left a reactionary. Did you need to insult us? Nope, but for whatever reason, you chose to add that in there. You didn't just want your question answered. Nobody asks a question and then punches the person they're asking.

And know what? I could tolerate that. But now you're acting as if you're the one being attacked. You want to pick a fight, fine, but at least have the guts to stick to your guns.

To be fair, he was referring to the OI'ers, as this is in the OI section.

[Libertador]

You called everyone on Rev Left a reactionary. Kick the victim mentality. I called the OI'ers reactionaries; truth and standard practice.

[¿Que?]

You might want to try rightwing watch to get you started. It's a lefty (or liberal) website putting out the worst from the right for all to gasp in horror.

Might also want to have a look at redwatch I think, is kind of the opposite. Typical red baiting and such I guess, never really took the time to take a close look. However, I'm pretty sure it's somewhat regional to the UK. I think.

Then there's the famous conservapedia, if you're down for some rotten evangelical shit, and maybe a little website defacement. :cool:

Of course, YouTube comments are pretty much full of right wing filth, as is Yahoo Chat and Yahoo Groups I believe.

Finally, if this doesn't tickle your fancy, you can always google.

[ComradeMan]

Thanks for not answering my question and rather turning this thread into a "WTFH we're not fascists!111" thread.


Stay classy.

Seriously when you come here and blatantly state that reactionaries such as ourselves tend to frequent S.Front along with an implied list of rightwing sites then I do find that insulting and obnoxious and hence my resounding "fuck off" as a reply. ;)

[Thirsty Crow]

But surely we're restricting these groups based on the perspectives of a handful of their most extreme members. Not all primitivists believe in heading clear back to the stone age- there are plenty who simply want to rethink the role of technology in our society. Same for third-worldists. Not every third-worldist denies the presence of oppression and exploitation in the first world- in fact, I know third-wordlists who really want to champion the cause of Black Liberation and rights for Native Americans.

It just seems like we're unfairly judging an entire group for the beliefs of a few.
The problem is that "rethinking the role of technology" does not imply a political position, and as far as I can tell, primitivists do hold political convictions, ranging to what I described to more moderate visions of "local" society, devoid of the results of technological development, a kind of a romanticism and nostalgia for "good old days of simplicity". But the problem is that enabling even such a social development on a global scale would undoubtedly cause many deaths, which would be capastrophic IMO since I think the contemporary productive capacity can support full and enjoyable lives for everyone currently living on Earth.
But just to be clear, I do think that it is necessary to talk about the function of technology, especially in relation to environmental degradation, but I don't think that any kind of convinced primitivism offers the best solutions for the whole of Earth's ecosystems, humans' included.

As far as 3rdworldists go, it really does not matter if they support the liberation of oppressed nationalities or ethnic groups in capitalism, since I do think that their politics is based on the position that "western" working class is completely integrated into capitalism/imperialism, which results in advocacy of a nasty divisions within the proletariat, which is a global class. I think there's grounds enough to resrict, and if resident 3rdworlidsts would like to correct my understanding, someone may open a separate thread.
(I think that user ThugLesson identifies as 3rdwrl, you may also ask him about this issue)

[wunderbar]

Go to any mainstream news site that allows comments. Read the comments to any article. Any article on the death penalty or involving people who aren't white is a sure bet.

[ComradeMan]

Kick the victim mentality. I called the OI'ers reactionaries; truth and standard practice.

So you've been here since the 24th of July, a real vet in RevLeft terms, and you don't know why people are in OI, you don't who the people in the neighbourhood are and you come in with a superior tone, patronising people and acting like Mr Fucking Communism all of the the fucking place and then whine when you get called out on it.... What the fuck is up with that cumbà? Stop being suck a fucking stonat'- capisci?
:thumbup1:

Edit- PS thanks for the Neg Rep too---- booo hoooo--- look at the tears flowing from eyes-- not! Seriously vaffanculo va.

[Battlecat]

So you've been here since the 24th of July, a real vet in RevLeft terms, and you don't know why people are in OI, you don't who the people in the neighbourhood are and you come in with a superior tone, patronising people and acting like Mr Fucking Communism all of the the fucking place and then whine when you get called out on it.... What the fuck is up with that cumbà? Stop being suck a fucking stonat'- capisci?
:thumbup1:

Edit- PS thanks for the Neg Rep too---- booo hoooo--- look at the tears flowing from eyes-- not! Seriously vaffanculo va.

..back on topic, does anyone know texts that outline the Maoist Third Worldist ideology? I've seen the god awful videos put out by the LLCO, but I was wondering if there were any essays, statements, quotes etc. from Mao-era Chinese officials, or revolutionary leaders after Mao regarding the topic? Assuming they classify as the "reactionary websited/literature" the OP was talking about

[Flying Trotsky]

Libertador, I need to apologize. I initially believed your comments to be directed at all of Rev Left, and not simply this section. Now while I don't agree with the way you phrased the question, I still need to say that I misread it and went off on a stupid rant. Sorry.

[Apoi_Viitor]

..back on topic, does anyone know texts that outline the Maoist Third Worldist ideology?

http://monkeysmashesheaven.wordpress.com/

[Flying Trotsky]

http://monkeysmashesheaven.wordpress.com/

Ah, come on. Those guys are nut-cases. You can't base Third-Worldism on their claims...

[28350]

Ah, come on. Those guys are nut-cases. You can't base Third-Worldism on their claims...

does anyone else claim to be MTWist?