Big Day Tomorrow in NY for same sex weddings..

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/19/gay-wedding-lottery-in-ny_n_903537.html

NEW YORK (AP): New York City will hold a lottery for couples who want to get married on first day same-sex marriage will be legal, the mayor announced Tuesday.


Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that more than 760 couples will be selected to get married on Sunday in the city clerk's five borough offices.
Couples can register for the lottery online (http://www.cityclerk.nyc.gov/html/marriage/lottery.shtml) or by calling 311 in the 48 hours beginning noon Tuesday. Winners will be notified by Friday at noon.


The steps are being taken to keep the day special and to avoid situations in which people wait for hours only to be turned away.
"We want to make sure that Sunday is not like a trip to motor vehicles," said City Council Speaker Christine Quinn.


Couples will not be given a specific time to arrive and should expect for the process to take about an hour. Couples who wish to get married somewhere else can enter the lottery and receive the license and waiver on Sunday, then leave for their ceremony.


For couples who do not land a spot through the lottery, the city clerk's office will continue expanded operations next week, bringing in extra judges and staff and staying open two extra hours each day, to handle the anticipated demand.



Starting Monday, those weddings will be performed first-come, first-served, but Bloomberg said he doesn't expect people to be camping out overnight to get married.


"It's not buying an iPad 2," he said. "It's way better," added Quinn.


Officials said 2,661 couples have already preregistered for marriage licenses online, and they believe about half of them wish to be married on Sunday. In all, officials expect about 2,500 couples to enter the lottery.
Officials expect the majority of couples who enter the lottery to be local residents, although couples who live out of state can also apply.


On Sunday, judges will perform three steps all at once: granting a marriage license, granting (on a case by case basis) a waiver of the waiting period, and performing a ceremony.


Generally, Quinn said, judges refuse to grant waivers only in cases where an individual appears to be under duress or under the influence of alcohol or drugs.


Each couple must register under the names that will appear on the marriage licenses. The step is being taken to prevent people from giving away or selling their spots.


Each borough will hold a separate lottery, and couples can enter only one.
The one exception to the lottery system is the wedding that the mayor himself is officiating at Gracie Mansion - that of two city officials.

[The_Outernationalist]

Why is it on this website that heterosexual marriage is derided as "bourgeois", "patriarchial", and "oppressive", while homosexual marriage is lauded and celebrated?

Why the double standard? one only has to look in the sexual politics section of this website to see what I'm referring to...

[Volcanicity]

Why is it on this website that heterosexual marriage is derided as "bourgeois", "patriarchial", and "oppressive", while homosexual marriage is lauded and celebrated?

Why the double standard? one only has to look in the sexual politics section of this website to see what I'm referring to...
Because it's not the actual marriage that's being celebrated, it's the gains that have been made for the LGBT community that are being lauded.

[thefinalmarch]

Why is it on this website that heterosexual marriage is derided as "bourgeois", "patriarchial", and "oppressive", while homosexual marriage is lauded and celebrated?

Why the double standard? one only has to look in the sexual politics section of this website to see what I'm referring to...
Marriage has historically been solely an institution of the subjugation of females to males, and it marked the period in a woman's life in which she would be coerced - economically, physically, or otherwise - in to what was essentially domestic slavery. In some parts of the world, this view of marriage continues to this day - but predominantly in contemporary western culture marriage has come to be looked at almost solely as a personal/whateverthefuck union, and has dropped some of its most obviously sexist characteristics.

Homosexual marriage, on the other hand, is something I don't think can ever be looked at as inherently sexist or otherwise oppressive. It is viewed as a personal union between individuals, but the struggle for LGBT rights (especially marriage rights) is not just limited to the aesthetics of being able to call oneself happily married. It is much more than that. Many rights are granted to heterosexual, married couples which are not granted to homosexual, unmarried couples such as (off the top of my head, add to this if you're aware of any more - my list sucks) compensation in the event of spousal workplace injury, medical decision-making power in the event of spousal incapacitation, etc.

We also must not forget the awareness that this brings of the struggle against widespread social discrimination against LGBT people, of which the struggle for LGBT marriage rights is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Tabarnack]

Why is it on this website that heterosexual marriage is derided as "bourgeois", "patriarchial", and "oppressive", while homosexual marriage is lauded and celebrated?

Why the double standard? one only has to look in the sexual politics section of this website to see what I'm referring to...


Because some people believe that regurgitating issues brought to us from the liberal bourgeois media is a good substitute for thinking for themselves. When do you suppose the corporate media will put that much emphasis on health care for all, affordable housing, or the rights of workers to organize, no that would be counterproductive for the ruling class, lets argue instead the pros and cons of gay marriage for another 50 years.

[tbasherizer]

Since there is no sex-based oppression in a same-sex relationship, society's acceptance of a thing based on this and called "marriage" reflects changing attitudes towards gender roles within and attitudes toward the institution itself. This is one of the ways the LGBT struggle is linked to that of women.

[The_Outernationalist]

Since there is no sex-based oppression in a same-sex relationship

ITT: someone who doesn't know anything about feminism.

ever heard of the oppression of transgendered women by other women, including lesbians?

[The_Outernationalist]

Homosexual marriage, on the other hand, is something I don't think can ever be looked at as inherently sexist or otherwise oppressive. It is viewed as a personal union between individuals

Thanks for lumping every heterosexual person into a group of oppressors, because they choose to get married, while homosexual marriages are okay for some reason, despite rampant discrimination from homosexuals against transgendered people.

the leftist double standard can be disgusting sometimes.

[Revy]

Thanks for lumping every heterosexual person into a group of oppressors, because they choose to get married, while homosexual marriages are okay for some reason, despite rampant discrimination from homosexuals against transgendered people.

the leftist double standard can be disgusting sometimes.

The same silly people who call marriage "oppressive" are the same people insisting gay marriage is not something to fight for. There is no "double standard". People that support gay marriage equality have no problem with marriage. The issue is not marriage, but legal equality. Just like if you may not approve of the electoral system, that doesn't mean that the black or female right to vote wasn't something to fight for, it was a struggle for equal rights.

Both you and Tabarnack's tone sounds awfully homophobic. As if gay rights doesn't matter? I'm sick of attitudes like this being expressed on here. They have no place on here and you can take your bullshit elsewhere.

[thefinalmarch]

Thanks for lumping every heterosexual person into a group of oppressors, because they choose to get married
FYI I did not lump every heterosexual into a group of oppressors. Of course you wouldn't know that as you obviously can't read, because this is what I said about heterosexual marriage:

In some parts of the world, this view of marriage continues to this day - but predominantly in contemporary western culture marriage has come to be looked at almost solely as a personal/whateverthefuck union, and has dropped some of its most obviously sexist characteristics.


homosexual marriages are okay for some reason, despite rampant discrimination from homosexuals against transgendered people.
Well then the problem of rampant discrimination against transgenders by homosexuals is the fault of individuals themselves, and is far from an inherent problem with homosexual marriage in itself.

[Libertador]

If people actually love each other and are willing to commit to each other then who gives an airborne flipping shit whether or not they want to get married? Heterosexual or otherwise.