"Charlie Chaplin vs Inception" speech

[Agent Equality]

I don't have 25 posts as of yet, but if someone would care to link the video by dane3445 that would be great. :laugh:

I am sure most of you have seen this wonderful speech made by chaplin in the movie The Great Dictator but the inception music makes it THAT much more powerful.

As for myself, this was the first time I had ever seen the speech in general and it struck home for me. As a libertarian socialist it actually made me cry a little bit, as embarrasing as that is :D, such was the power and meaning of the video.

Was Chaplin a socialist? Because this speech VERY much seems like he was a democratic or libertarian socialist. It sounds as if he isn't just talking about fascism and dictatorships but capitalism and all forms of human oppression as well.

[Tommy4ever]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin

Scroll down to the politics section - says he was a leftie with socialist sympathies if never being openly socialist or communist.

And yes, the speech is really great and always gets me a bit.

[Agent Equality]

If you could link the video thatd be awesome!

I've always wondered though, was he in it for the money or for the passion of film? I don't really know my chaplin too much forgive me :)

[Per Levy]

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personally i dont like the added music in the speach, its way to loud but you wanted this version.

[bluerev002]

Wuu! Yah Charlie Chaplin was indeed a socialist and for that, I believe, he was deported. The music would've been good if it wasn't so loud.

[Agent Equality]

I like the loud music. It seems to only intensify his words to me.

Its so amazing how those words are still so incredibly relevant today after 70 years. Back then it was totilitarianism and fascism, now it is is capitalism.

[Susurrus]

I vote that Chaplinism be the next major tendency.

[DarkPast]

The speech is, indeed, incredibly moving.


Wuu! Yah Charlie Chaplin was indeed a socialist and for that, I believe, he was deported. The music would've been good if it wasn't so loud.

Chaplin actually gave an speech by the title of “Salute to our Russian ally” in 1943. He praised the Russian soldiers for their bravery and claimed that they “the Communists” were just as human as anyone else (this was later broadcast in the USSR). This was one of the reasons he was kept under close surveillance and forbidden to return one time after he left for to the UK (this ban was lifted eventually, though).

Excerpt:

Comrades! And I mean comrades. I am not a Communist, I am a human being, and I think I know the reactions of human beings. The Communists are no different from anyone else; whether they lose an arm or a leg, they suffer as all of us do, and die as all of us die. And the Communist mother is the same as any other mother. When she receives the tragic news that her sons will not return, she weeps as other mothers weep. I don't have to be a Communist to know that. I have only to be human being to know that. And at this moment Russian mothers are doing a lot of weeping and their sons a lot of dying.

[Commissar Rykov]

That was excellent thanks for sharing.:thumbup1:

[x359594]

...I've always wondered though, was he in it for the money or for the passion of film? I don't really know my chaplin too much forgive me :)

Chaplin was in it for the passion of film by as early as The Gold Rush in 1925. He built his own studio and financed his own pictures out of his own pocket. In 1940 no major studio would have touched The Great Dictator (Hollywood was still selling films to the German and Italian markets.)

The last movie he made in the US, Monsieur Verdoux (1947) ends with his indictment of capitalism and war in another great speech. The movie did not make money in the US, and his next two movies were not released in the US until the early 1970s, Limelight (1952) and A King in New York (1955), the latter a satire on the House Committee on Un-American Activities (before which he refused to testify which led to his deportation.)

[Agent Equality]

The speech itself is completely amazing and enough to make me cry on its own. But the music is also very powerful. The perfect score for this speech.

I was listening to this music about 2 hours ago whilst talking to my girlfriend about our parents trying to hold us back and it gave me the determination to tell her we aren't over yet. (I will post a thread about this in the unrelated section) and I just broke into tears. But this music is quite moving indeed. Coupled with the speech it seems hard not to start crying with the utter beauty and underlying sadness of it all.

And interestingly enough, this came from 4chan. That place isn't completely the hell hole its made out to be. There is still some quality stuff that comes out of there.

[Olentzero]

Was Chaplin a socialist?Having grown up in extreme poverty, he wasn't entirely unsympathetic. This is a wonderful little lecture on his political views and activism:jxkw0MU-g2M

I'm a big Mark Steel fan. He's very funny and erudite at the same time. Head on over here (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheInquiringOne#p/p) and scroll down the playlists for three seasons of lectures on all sorts of folk. And search YouTube for "Mark Steel Revolution" - lectures on revolutions from the US Civil War to October 1917. All good stuff.

[ComradeGrant]

You ever watch something so moving and passionate that you can feel the blood rush to your face? That's what I get when I watch that video.

[Agent Equality]

I think this would be quite an effective tool to use against authoritarianism just as well as capitalism.

[Martin Blank]

This match-up seems much better.

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[Iron Felix]

Eh, the speech is fine without music. This just makes it sound like some hollywood trailer, bankrupt of substance. I prefer the original.