Amy Winehouse found dead [Archive]

Leonid Brozhnev

23rd July 2011, 18:15

Never really listened to any of her music, but still sad to see a popular musician go at such a young age.

Singer Amy Winehouse, 27, has been found dead at her north London home.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman confirmed that a 27-year-old woman had died in Camden and that the cause of death was as yet unexplained.

London Ambulance Service said it had been called to the flat at 1554 BST and sent two vehicles but the woman died.

The troubled singer had a long battle with drink and drugs which overshadowed her recent musical career. She pulled out of a comeback tour last month.

Last month, the north Londoner pulled out of the European tour after she was jeered at the first gig in Serbia for appearing too drunk to perform.

For 90 minutes, she mumbled through parts of songs and at times left the stage - leaving her band to fill in.

Winehouse had won widespread acclaim, aged 20, with her 2003 debut album, Frank.

Worldwide stardom
But it was 2006's Back to Black which brought her worldwide stardom, winning five Grammy Awards.

Rumours of Winehouse's death began circulating on Twitter on Saturday evening. Among those to comment was former prime minister's wife Sarah Brown.

"Sad sad news of Amy Winehouse - great talent, extraordinary voice, and tragic death, condolences to her family," she tweeted.

Daily Telegraph rock critic Neil McCormick said he was "utterly shocked" at her death.

He said she had appeared focused when giving an "incredible performance" for a recent studio recording of a duet with Tony Bennett.

"It's deeply sad. It's the most completely tragic waste of talent that I can remember," he added.

At the time she pulled out of the tour, her spokesman said: "Amy Winehouse is withdrawing from all scheduled performances.

"Everyone involved wishes to do everything they can to help her return to her best and she will be given as long as it takes for this to happen."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14262237

Sensible Socialist

23rd July 2011, 18:16

And in other news, thousands of children will die due to hunger today.

RedAnarchist

23rd July 2011, 18:17

I read a stormfront thread about it - apparently they think the death of a troubled young woman who suffered with drugs and drink addictions is funny, and deserves posting bad pictures of her, and being glad that it took attention away from the atrocities in Norway.

khad

23rd July 2011, 18:18

Clearly, a role model for today's youth.

75yifjn7bHo

Blacks, pakis, gooks, and nips, gooks and nips are all deaf and dumb and blind and gay!

A Revolutionary Tool

23rd July 2011, 18:23

They tried to make her go to rehab but she said no, no, no. How ironic is this?

Hit The North

23rd July 2011, 18:24

And in other news, thousands of children will die due to hunger today.

No end of dead pop stars will change that fact. What's your point?

RedAnarchist

23rd July 2011, 18:26

No end of dead pop stars will change that fact. What's your point?

He's just saying that there should be some perspective. Right now, the media are obsessing about her death, which would not have been in the news at all if she wasn't a famous person.

Hit The North

23rd July 2011, 18:29

He's just saying that there should be some perspective. Right now, the media are obsessing about her death, which would not have been in the news at all if she wasn't a famous person.

It'd have made the local press. But, anyway, how are the media obsessing about it? It's only just been reported!

Meanwhile, the international media are indeed highlighting the deaths of children in the current draught in Somalia.

Ocean Seal

23rd July 2011, 18:39

Clearly, a role model for today's youth.

Wow her husband is horrible. I actually kind of feel bad for that broken down woman even if she was all those horrible things. She deserved a better life.

manic expression

23rd July 2011, 18:39

Very sad news. She was an extremely talented artist...I can't help but think that we keep losing great voices far too young. RIP.

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brigadista

23rd July 2011, 18:58

hate to see any troubled person defeated by addictions

Pirate Utopian

23rd July 2011, 19:08

Welcome to the 27 club.

Sensible Socialist

23rd July 2011, 19:16

No end of dead pop stars will change that fact. What's your point?
Just pointing out how her death is insignifigant.

Wanted Man

23rd July 2011, 19:30

Wow, great insight, Mr Sensible Socialist. You just called someone's death "insignificant". You're so dark and edgy with your cold-logic shtick. Where can we find more guys like you?

I would also like to add that we should stop talking about the events in Norway. I mean, like, thousands of people are dying due to starvation in Africa, and everyone's obessing over a bunch of insignificant first-world children? Sick!

¿Que?

23rd July 2011, 20:08

Clearly, a role model for today's youth.

75yifjn7bHo
...But didn't Winehouse sing mostly R&B. Racism, I will never understand it...

Lenina Rosenweg

23rd July 2011, 20:16

I was never a big fan of Amy Winehouse but I agree she was talented and this is sad news. Having said that I could point to M.I.A. as an example of an artist who had a political commitment, stayed away from drugs and seems to be vastly more self disciplined than Amy.

AW death is a loss but we have to put it in perspective. 80+ people were murdered in Norway by a rightist and we are witnessing the ongoing nightmare in Somalia, clearly caused by the capitalist relations of production.

I'm not an angel myself but if someone wants to remain in a narcissistic little world and cope by massive self medication instead of attempting to improve the world, well that's the result.

CommieTroll

23rd July 2011, 20:24

I can't say that I'm surprised at the news, its not a tragic loss anyhow.

Tim Cornelis

23rd July 2011, 20:27

La Comédie Noire

23rd July 2011, 20:32

It's almost like they marketed her to die at 27.

Either way, a loss of human life, especially so young, is sad.

R.I.P

RedAnarchist

23rd July 2011, 20:37

She's Jewish, if you already didn't know.

Yeah, I knew that, but to be glad that it deflects attention away from the atrocities in Norway just shows how deluded and feeble-minded these people are.

scarletghoul

23rd July 2011, 20:48

RIP :[

She made good music, whatever her personal problems were.

Sensible Socialist

23rd July 2011, 21:36

Wow, great insight, Mr Sensible Socialist. You just called someone's death "insignificant". You're so dark and edgy with your cold-logic shtick. Where can we find more guys like you?
Is it signifigant in your mind? Millions of people die every single day. It's a fact of human life. It's sad if those who die have no control over their outcome, as in Norway, but I can't spare my sympathy for someone who had the chance to live an extremely great life and ended up wasting that chance.

Obs

23rd July 2011, 21:37

Sensible Socialist

23rd July 2011, 21:40

Shut up. Just... shut up.
Very well worded, great response overall. I appreciate the brevity. Keep up the good work, champ.

Susurrus

23rd July 2011, 21:44

Sensible Socialist

23rd July 2011, 21:49

So you have no sympathy for a worker who, in avoiding exploiting or being exploited, finds himself in poverty, and, in despair, commits suicide?
Considering his conditions weren't his fault, then of course I have sympathy. But for someone who had it made and screwed herself because of personal choices, I'm not going to shed a tear.

Edit: You people act like I'm condoning the bloody murder of someone.

Bardo

23rd July 2011, 22:10

I'm not a fan of Amy Winehouse and I won't be crying over her death, but I wouldn't call any death insignificant. She had family, friends, and fans who loved her so this isn't an insignificant event to them. As far as the media coverage goes, she was a celebrity. When celebrities die they get tons of media coverage, it's just something you have to deal with. Either put up with the coverage or turn the channel.

Bad Grrrl Agro

24th July 2011, 01:36

:crying::crying::crying: I love her! She was someone I felt I could relate to.:crying:

Queercommie Girl

24th July 2011, 01:39

:crying::crying::crying: I love her! She was someone I felt I could relate to.:crying:

I didn't know Amy Winehouse was trans too :confused::lol:

Bad Grrrl Agro

24th July 2011, 01:42

I didn't know Amy Winehouse was trans too :confused::lol:
I didn't say she was. There is a lot more to me then my gender identity.

Sankara1983

24th July 2011, 02:00

And in other news, thousands of children will die due to hunger today.

Don't act so damn self-righteous and holier-than-thou. This is the music forum, and Amy Winehouse's death is important in the context of music. If you want to discuss issues which you feel are more important, there are other places on RevLeft to do so.

Queercommie Girl

24th July 2011, 02:03

Don't act so damn self-righteous and holier-than-thou. This is the music forum, and Amy Winehouse's death is important in the context of music. If you want to discuss issues which you feel are more important, there are other places on RevLeft to do so.

This thread was only moved into the Music sub-forum quite recently, long after the first posts were made.

Quail

24th July 2011, 02:04

Is it signifigant in your mind? Millions of people die every single day. It's a fact of human life. It's sad if those who die have no control over their outcome, as in Norway, but I can't spare my sympathy for someone who had the chance to live an extremely great life and ended up wasting that chance.
Someone who deals with personal problems badly and ends up dying is still extremely sad whether that person is a celebrity singer or an unemployed person. I think it's totally wrong for you to judge her for her problems with addiction and say that she wasted a chance to live a good life. Money and celebrity status doesn't automatically equal happiness.

Nox

24th July 2011, 02:12

Millions of people die every single day.

"One death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic." - Stalin

Sir Comradical

24th July 2011, 02:13

Meh, big loss.

Tim Finnegan

24th July 2011, 02:16

I can't spare my sympathy for someone who had the chance to live an extremely great life and ended up wasting that chance.
I'm seeing this idea thrown around a lot, here and elsewhere, and it makes certain assumptions about Ms. Winehouse's emotional health that I do not think are at all warranted. As somebody who has previously dealt with depression which was kept invisible to close relatives, let alone complete strangers, I'm going to have to ask you to try to be less vindictive about an event which none of us can claim to have a proper insight into.

Princess Luna

24th July 2011, 02:23

I just heard her music for the first time, i always thought she was like Lady Gaga (whose music i can't stand) so i didn't even bother, but she actually had a damn good voice! it's a pity she died :(

Sensible Socialist

24th July 2011, 02:45

I'm seeing this idea thrown around a lot, here and elsewhere, and it makes certain assumptions about Ms. Winehouse's emotional health that I do not think are at all warranted. As somebody who has previously dealt with depression which was kept invisible to close relatives, let alone complete strangers, I'm going to have to ask you to try to be less vindictive about an event which none of us can claim to have a proper insight into.
I'm going to assume you weren't going around making racial slurs while you were depressed.

Leonid Brozhnev

24th July 2011, 03:09

This thread was only moved into the Music sub-forum quite recently, long after the first posts were made.

No it wasn't, it's always been in the Music forum. :confused:

I contemplated putting it in Chit chat, but usually when there's a death of a musician nobody gives a shit about, people generally post it here...

XenoLair

24th July 2011, 03:13

"One death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic." - Stalin

Stalin was right about that.

Anyway, people die. She lived life like she wanted to and a with a lifestyle like her's I'm not really surprised.
I don't see how this is news but hey celebrity death sells some papers doesnt it? Yes it certainly does. More interesting than the clashes in Cairo...

Tim Finnegan

24th July 2011, 03:14

I'm going to assume you weren't going around making racial slurs while you were depressed.
I hardly see how that validates your previous statements. My objection was to the fact that you were happy to overlook any question of her emotional or mental health being a factor because of her wealth and success, which in effect constitutes a declaration of scepticism as to the legitimacy of emotional and mental health issues as something beyond the immediate control of those who suffer from them- which, given that clinical depression is currently sitting at levels in most of the Western world that would be considered to represent an epidemic if it was an infectious disease, is very unwise indeed. That Winehouse was herself a less-than-enlightened individual doesn't change any of that.

Decommissioner

24th July 2011, 03:23

Is it signifigant in your mind? Millions of people die every single day. It's a fact of human life. It's sad if those who die have no control over their outcome, as in Norway, but I can't spare my sympathy for someone who had the chance to live an extremely great life and ended up wasting that chance.

Not that i'm a fan of AW or anything..but go try being addicted to a substance and see how much better you will come out.

It's tragic, no matter how much of a "chance" someone was given. I've had many people around me die due to drug related causes.

Lyev

24th July 2011, 14:13

"One death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic." - StalinStalin didn't say this, it's always misattributed; http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Misattributed and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations.

I agree on the sobriety of this, especially considering how record companies are gonna profit of the back of it. I found an interesting article about the 27 club, btw, if anyone is interested: http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article4567970.ece

Comrade J

24th July 2011, 15:58

I saw Amy Winehouse in Camden once, flirting with a guy doing roadworks.

Never liked her music, never knew her, don't have an opinion on her death really.

Bardo

24th July 2011, 16:59

I agree on the sobriety of this, especially considering how record companies are gonna profit of the back of it.

Yep, her breakthrough album is already #1 on iTunes and Amazon again.

cu247

24th July 2011, 18:00

I always liked her voice, I'm disappointed but not surprised

NoOneIsIllegal

24th July 2011, 18:47

I'm sorry she's gone. However, has she even released a song since her one big hit Rehab? (Wasn't that good, jus' sayin')

Revy

25th July 2011, 00:02

She had an amazing voice that unlike some "singers" , didn't need to be auto-tuned.

Fawkes

26th July 2011, 21:36

I'm sorry she's gone. However, has she even released a song since her one big hit Rehab? (Wasn't that good, jus' sayin')

She had some pretty major hits beyond just Rehab. And Rehab wasn't just an isolated single, it was part of an album containing a lot of really good songs and that -- for what it's worth -- swept the Grammys. Her output though since Back to Black was really small, consisting of a few cover songs like the pretty mediocre It's My Party.

Oh yeah, and sensible socialist is a douche.

#FF0000

26th July 2011, 23:04

Seriously fuck about half of you people in this thread. Get off your computer and crawl out of your parent's basement once in awhile and maybe you might learn what it's like to have a human feeling or empathy. You might not have such a hard time feeling bad for two things at the same time either you colossal douchebags.

ZeroNowhere

26th July 2011, 23:11

I'm not sure why people are so concerned about poor children dying. From a cosmic perspective, their corpses combined are a tiny, meaningless speck in the night of the universe. Get some perspective, people.

Dr Mindbender

26th July 2011, 23:38

apparently the fire brigade were called out after her cremation.

pastradamus

27th July 2011, 00:38

Got onto this thread a bit late but I used to listen to some of her stuff. Her voice alone was just raw talent and also the fact that she wrote most of her own stuff - a rarety today in a generation dominated by the likes of x-factor. People have described her as a "bad role model" but then again she never claimed to be one.

There is a thin line between the average working-class person and the homeless person on the street and there is a thin line between a clean person and a drug addict so anyone who believes she deserved this, really have a sad understanding of society as well as the nature of addiction.

I believe she was one of the greatest musical talents of her generation and for her death to be reported and discussed on the news is totally warrented - even in the face of the Norweigan tragedy. She was important to many people and she brings drug addiction and how greedy capitalism can kill back into the mainstreem.

The_Outernationalist

27th July 2011, 00:49

...And nothing of value was lost.

The_Outernationalist

27th July 2011, 00:52

I always liked her voice

Her voice alone was just raw talent

Very sad news. She was an extremely talented artist

oh, just raw talent...LOL :laugh::laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5jEU9hatcI
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5jEU9hatcI)

#FF0000

27th July 2011, 00:54

...And nothing of value was lost.

fuck

off

#FF0000

27th July 2011, 00:58

oh, just raw talent...LOL :laugh::laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5jEU9hatcI
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5jEU9hatcI)

not really sure why a video of an addict in a pretty painful spot is funny to you.

Oh that's right because you're a stupid ****

(infraction please)

The_Outernationalist

27th July 2011, 00:58

She had an amazing voice that unlike some "singers" , didn't need to be auto-tuned.

You're joking right? MUST I post it again, for all of you to eat your words?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5jEU9hatcI

pwnd. :lol:

The_Outernationalist

27th July 2011, 01:00

not really sure why a video of an addict in a pretty painful spot is funny to you.

more like she is just a really bad singer.

Oh that's right because you're a stupid ****

(infraction please)

So I get an infraction because I think she is a terrible singer? what does that have to do with drugs? I didn't mention drugs at all. you did.

and where is your infraction for sexism? **** is a very sexist word. I thought a leftist would know better than that.

ZeroNowhere

27th July 2011, 01:00

You're joking right? MUST I post it again, for all of you to eat your words?
No, it's really not strictly necessary that you do so.

#FF0000

27th July 2011, 01:01

more like she is just a really bad singer.

So I get an infraction because I think she is a terrible singer? what does that have to do with drugs? I didn't mention drugs at all. you did.

and where is your infraction for sexism? **** is a very sexist word. I thought a leftist would know better than that.

-complains about sexism-

-makes fun of an addict while they are clearly under the influence of drugs-

The_Outernationalist

27th July 2011, 01:08

-complains about sexism-

-makes fun of an addict while they are clearly under the influence of drugs-

the problem, you see, is she wasn't under the influence of drugs. she was just really that crappy of a singer. Kurt Cobain was always under the influence and he still had talent. Amy Winehouse...no talent.

ZeroNowhere

27th July 2011, 01:09

-complains about sexism-

-makes fun of an addict while they are clearly under the influence of drugs-
They may have done so, but, more importantly, you used a naughty word.

#FF0000

27th July 2011, 01:10

the problem, you see, is she wasn't under the influence of drugs.

so how long has it been since you've seen the sun

Delenda Carthago

27th July 2011, 01:12

#FF0000

27th July 2011, 01:14

But I be damned...Another drug addict role model to feed the social stereotype? And dont start that "she didnt wanted to be a role model", I m not kicking her. I m just sayin how fucked up is for our society to have personalities like that as something to look up to. It shows that there is a problem, dont it?

Sure, but like a few others have said, the industry kinda encourages it, unfortunately. Then builds this big death cult around dead drug using stars and everything.

Delenda Carthago

27th July 2011, 01:16

Sure, but like a few others have said, the industry kinda encourages it, unfortunately. Then builds this big death cult around dead drug using stars and everything.

I know. And this is something we have to fight, cause its a sick tradition of our society to idealize junkies, specially after the order of a music corporation.

Tim Finnegan

27th July 2011, 01:21

...And nothing of value was lost.
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

- John Donne

A sentiment, I would've thought, that anyone claiming the legacy of as great a humanist as Karl Marx would've shared.

pastradamus

27th July 2011, 01:26

the problem, you see, is she wasn't under the influence of drugs. she was just really that crappy of a singer. Kurt Cobain was always under the influence and he still had talent. Amy Winehouse...no talent.

"Drugs" is just a generic word for something that alters your physical and metal behaviour. What drug Kurt Cobain was on may have been different to what drug Amy Winehouse, Jimmy Hendrix, Phil lynnot etc - were on as well as what time they took the substance at. Its also worth remebering that Amy Winehouse was also drunk a lot of the time and suffered from severe alcoholism as well as being a drug addict. Not to mention that in the video you posted she was clearly seen necking back a large glass of wine and appeared to be completely drunk.

In the video you posted she was completely off her face and so her performance was obviously dreadful. I believe the real question in this context is not Amy winehouse's performance but rather who were the sick record exectutives who made a drunk and drugged singer in need of help, perform on these live performances. Its an example of how exploitative in nature the music industry is. We can learn a lot about Socialism, Captalism and society from studying what happened this woman.

Id also like to mention that before she was decimated by her addictions she was well known for her excellent live performances - an example I can think of is when she played the oxygen festival in Ireland - which critics though was a fantastic performance contrasting strongly with all the bad press she got at that time.

She might not be everyones cup of tea but her story bears thought. So if you dont like her voice and her music then that is fine. I dont see why you have to post video's of a wasted dead woman and claim she had no talent. Though considering the comments you made coupled with the video you posted I dont have to point out that your statement was completely idiotic as you appear to be doing an excellent job of that all by yourself.

pastradamus

27th July 2011, 01:30

AW was kinda cool. Her music was something to a lot of people and she probably had a lot to offer. Its a shame.

But I be damned...Another drug addict role model to feed the social stereotype? And dont start that "she didnt wanted to be a role model", I m not kicking her. I m just sayin how fucked up is for our society to have personalities like that as something to look up to. It shows that there is a problem, dont it?

Yeah, I can see where your coming from but I feel her fans would have been more attached to her very messed up style and her actual music rather than the fact she was a addict. Anyway, I think the fact that the drugs eventually finished her off would eliminate the sentiment of attraction for that specific reason.

coda

29th July 2011, 00:43

I think her death is very tragic, for whatever cause.... wow 27.. I can't imagine (as someone far beyond that age). Her life--pretty tragic too... drug addiction, violent marriage... media stalkings... But, not sure if this early in her game if she had yet accumulated a lot of wealth (which was alluded to in this thread). Yes, she had a lot of exposure and fame.. but most recently it was all about catching her on the down end of life. The nasty side of fame is that they are always waiting for you to fall... But on the other hand, when she did.. she cleaned up great and was beautiful. Most of all I think her legacy will be that in this early millenia, when everything mostly follows inane pop and sexist hip hop, she hearkened back to a different time of Billie Holiday and the jazz greats adding with her own original spin on things.

She reminds me of Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon (who I've been listening to a lot lately) who died at age 28 of drug overdose in 1995 who also had brought back a whole retro sort of vibe with that same original spin that Amy had.

All gone too soon and will they be remembered in the future? Or did they burn too quick?

Which ever.. it's All sad for the music scene, especially if you're a diverse music fan..
RIP Amy

∞

29th July 2011, 00:53

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/2d8/95d/046/resized/look-at-all-the-fucks-i-give-meme-generator-look-at-all-the-fucks-i-give-4ca49d.jpg?1309208478.jpg

coda

29th July 2011, 01:00

Probably even less so for you.... :):)

Yo! This world would suck without music!!!

Tim Finnegan

29th July 2011, 01:07

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/2d8/95d/046/resized/look-at-all-the-fucks-i-give-meme-generator-look-at-all-the-fucks-i-give-4ca49d.jpg?1309208478.jpg
Is that no fucks, or a lot of fucks? His gesture is kind of "I love you thiiiiiiiis much"-y, so it's hard to tell. :blink:

29th July 2011, 01:08

AW was kinda cool. Her music was something to a lot of people and she probably had a lot to offer. Its a shame.

But I be damned...Another drug addict role model to feed the social stereotype? And dont start that "she didnt wanted to be a role model", I m not kicking her. I m just sayin how fucked up is for our society to have personalities like that as something to look up to. It shows that there is a problem, dont it?

The whole "poor role model" cliche is pretty silly TBH. I mean, I doubt very many kids saw all the hideously fucked up, humiliating paparazzi shots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnh1B1TLR5U&feature=relmfu) of cracked out Amy Winehouse that were periodically circulated all over the media and thought to themselves "that's what I wanna be like when I grow up!!!" If anything, the woman was like a walking anti-drug billboard.