U guys ever played Metro 2033?

[Dogs On Acid]

I got to the end of it yesterday, and I was like, damn that was amazing :blink:

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Thoughts?

[Dr Mindbender]

The boxart looks quite leftist, is this just for show or is it relevant to the plot?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Metro2033_wiki.jpg/256px-Metro2033_wiki.jpg

[Dogs On Acid]

The boxart looks quite leftist, is this just for show or is it relevant to the plot?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Metro2033_wiki.jpg/256px-Metro2033_wiki.jpg

It's in a post-apocalyptic world, and everyone descended to the Moscow metro due to the poisonous atmosphere.

There is a war going on between Neo-Nazis and Communists, and sometimes you see Communists recruiting in the metro stations. Other than that it's not very political.

There is a mission where you can save 3 communists and you gain a "morality point".

[khad]

Typical anticommunist drivel for trendy new Russia.

First time you meet the communists, they try to gulag you. Bonus points for making fun of Red Army veterans with no legs.

[Dogs On Acid]

Yeah the part when they try to arrest you is so cliché... But the communists aren't the "bad guys" at all. In fact the worker stations (armory for ex.) are Communist.

[khad]

And I'd have to be fucked in the head to believe that Dimitri Glukhovsky is anything but a virulent anti-communist.

[Dogs On Acid]

I haven't read the novel yet, is it good?

[khad]

I really don't like it when people try to be dense. Based on my dismissive attitude towards the author, you could have gauged what I thought of the book, but in case that's not enough, here's a passage. It's remarkable how completely Western this reactionary nonsense is, equating Communism and Nazism and then calling them both religions:


It was for this reason that it was difficult for Artyom to choose and accept only one of them. Getting a new version of the answer every day, Artyom was unable to compel himself to believe what was true, because the next day another, no less precise and comprehensive one, might arise. Whom should he believe? And in what? In the Great Worm - the cannibalistic god, shaped like an electrified train and populating the barren, scorched earth with living beings; in the wrathful and jealous Jehovah; in his vainglorious reflection - Satan; in the victory of communism in the whole metro; in the supremacy of the fair-haired men with turned-up noses over curly haired, swarthy races. Something suggested to Artyom that there were no differences in any of it. Any faith served man only as a crutch supporting him.Save yourself the trouble and just watch this 10 minute summary:

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[Red Commissar]

Yup, that's what I thought too. It's pretty routine among some circles when they tie together from the "far left" and "far right" on their mutual ground of being "totalitarian", and to associate them with religion as well due to the "fanaticism" of its followers.

In the game the Communists are pretty much your run of the mill zomgevilcommies who're in a perpetual war against the Neo-Nazis. Luckily the game doesn't really comment on it much beyond that, but the book itself is filled with more of that drivel.

[khad]

Yup, that's what I thought too. It's pretty routine among some circles when they tie together from the "far left" and "far right" on their mutual ground of being "totalitarian", and to associate them with religion as well due to the "fanaticism" of its followers.

The political "circle" analogy (where far left and far right meet, OMG) was originally conjured up by Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. in his book the Vital Center, which you can read as the manifesto of Cold War moderate liberalism - rejecting all "extremist ideologies" as manifestations of the same totalitarian disorder.

It's remarkable how much Russian liberalism takes its cues from Uncle Sam.

[Rafiq]

Is the game fun? Would you recommend it to Fallout fans?

And, guys, at least it gives some positive depictions of communists, and at least it actually tells the story as communists are fighting nazis, rather than in Call of Duty black ops or other games where Nazis and Communists work together or some bullshit like that

[Tablo]

The game itself is fun. Not much like Fallout since it is quite linear.

[#FF0000]

This and STALKER are both better than Fallout 3.







Fallout 3 is terrible

[Dogs On Acid]

Is the game fun? Would you recommend it to Fallout fans?

And, guys, at least it gives some positive depictions of communists, and at least it actually tells the story as communists are fighting nazis, rather than in Call of Duty black ops or other games where Nazis and Communists work together or some bullshit like that

Yeah it's fun. If you like the post-apocalyptic theme (:wub:) you will like this. It plays very linear (tunnels), that was kinda disappointing.

4A Games is a split from GSC (the Stalker developer) in Ukraine. The 4A team found text-based scripts of Stalker very outdated and the bugs unacceptable. So they made a new engine (quite impressive one).

[Dogs On Acid]

This and STALKER are both better than Fallout 3.







Fallout 3 is terrible

Different games altogether. Fallout 3 was a good game, a lot of work was put into it, but some things really pissed me off, like the animations or the same voice actors over and over again. Totally destroyed the experience.

Stalker is amazing, so is Metro. Can't wait for Last Night :)

[Black Sheep]

Great FPS, very immersive .Example:
The parts where you're out of the metros, on the surface,you have to wear a gas mask.As time passes, the filter of the mask gets fucked or sth (clogged? don't know) and your breathing gets heavier up to a point where you struggle to take a breath.
At the point just mentioned, i found myself taking big breaths and coughing while playing..
Not to mention the part with the 'librarians' where i was like "NOPE, ALT+F4"

Ignore the "nooo,it's anti-communist!!" shouts, it's an enjoyable game,with some anti-stalinist / anti-leninist parts.(commissars shouting orders to simple grunts, NK-style propaganda, etc)
Relax, a good portion of today's films and video games include anti-leftist elements,that doesn't mean you should discard any form of entertainment with these flaws.You're a big boy, you can pick out the bullshit parts and ignore them.

[Rss]

Great FPS, very immersive .Example:
The parts where you're out of the metros, on the surface,you have to wear a gas mask.As time passes, the filter of the mask gets fucked or sth (clogged? don't know) and your breathing gets heavier up to a point where you struggle to take a breath.
At the point just mentioned, i found myself taking big breaths and coughing while playing..
Not to mention the part with the 'librarians' where i was like "NOPE, ALT+F4"

Ignore the "nooo,it's anti-communist!!" shouts, it's an enjoyable game,with some anti-stalinist / anti-leninist parts.(commissars shouting orders to simple grunts, NK-style propaganda, etc)
Relax, a good portion of today's films and video games include anti-leftist elements,that doesn't mean you should discard any form of entertainment with these flaws.You're a big boy, you can pick out the bullshit parts and ignore them.

Yeah, maybe we are but do you think that your average frat boy gamer is as class conscious?

I've seen some gameplay videos and it definitely has good atmosphere. Just watching shitty youtube clips got me interested. Lately there has been many great PC games from Russia.