View Full Version : What is a Hipster?
Dogs On Acid
21st July 2011, 00:59
:blushing:
Pirate Utopian
21st July 2011, 02:03
I have no idea.
Dogs On Acid
21st July 2011, 02:16
I have no idea.
Me neither :(
Nuvem
21st July 2011, 02:28
http://www.latfh.com/
Petty bourgeois "rebellious" subculture. Mostly white college kids who dress like they trip into the closet and just walk out of the house, grow wispy mustaches, ugly beards and get stupid tattoos. They also drink shitty cheap beer and throw ridiculous parties. The above link will provide ample subjects for observation. Some of my favorites:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l42bwbwFEW1qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1x2vmgg0W1qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kz5fk5RCFq1qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky0397pJ751qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
And it just goes on and on and on.
Dogs On Acid
21st July 2011, 02:42
WHAT THE FUCK
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5zvprD4xU1qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
Dogs On Acid
21st July 2011, 02:43
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l42bwbwFEW1qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
For some reason I find that girl hot...
tm315
21st July 2011, 02:44
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hipster&defid=2705928
Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.
Dogs On Acid
21st July 2011, 02:48
So err, why does everyone hate them? They look like nerds into clothing.
Pioneers_Violin
21st July 2011, 03:05
Wasn't Austin Powers a Hipster?
Nuvem
21st July 2011, 03:08
Because they're stuck-up, privileged, liberal college kids with an absurd sense of social superiority because of their "forward-thinking" and "outside the box" mindset. Petty Bourgeois liberalism at its very, very worst.
An edit: but they are lulzy as fuck.
Il Medico
21st July 2011, 03:31
'Hipster' is the most extremely vague sub cultural label out there. You can be labeled a hipster for so many different reasons it is unimaginable. Most people I know who would be labeled hipsters are poor workers and students who are into 'alternative' culture (art, music, etc) and some what intellectual in an odd quirky fashion (rather than an academic way). There are indeed some pretentious trust-funders, but from my experience they are hardly the majority. No rather I find arguments like Nuvem's to be generally anti-worker bullshit, as it basically argues that interest in cultural things like art, fashion, music, or philosophy are the exclusive realm of over privileged rich kids and belittle the intellectual and cultural capabilities of the working class.
Vendetta
21st July 2011, 03:35
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Rusty Shackleford
21st July 2011, 03:42
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Aurora
21st July 2011, 04:39
It's some stupid N. american thing no one cares about, it's like Glenn Beck no one gives a fuck but they all wanna whine about it.
*edit* why isn't the doctor a CU anymore?
Aurora
21st July 2011, 04:40
:confused:
Il Medico
21st July 2011, 04:53
*edit* why isn't the doctor a CU anymore?
That is an excellent question.
Rusty Shackleford
21st July 2011, 05:11
That is an excellent question.
The Dr. will have his dissertation ready by the morrow i presume?
Aurora
21st July 2011, 05:17
That is an excellent question.
While we're at it why isn't F#0000 a CU anymore either? :confused:
coda
21st July 2011, 05:25
dissertations baby!
then you get your REV Left Ph.D...
Che was a hipster when he went on his road trip!
Il Medico
21st July 2011, 05:26
The Dr. will have his dissertation ready by the morrow i presume?
Sooner, actually my dear rusty. It would appear that certain unnamed Admins felt I wasn't Cu material. (aka they don't like me) What their exact excuse was wasn't told to me, but I hope to find out soon. I still actually find some discussions and things on this site worthy while, despite how terribly it is run these days, so here's hoping I don't go the way of bailey and others, though I wouldn't be too surprised thats just how revleft works these days.
EDIT: Ends up I'm not trustworthy enough for the Cu or some such nonsense. :lol:
Os Cangaceiros
21st July 2011, 05:30
http://www.latfh.com/
Petty bourgeois "rebellious" subculture.
Not true. There's nothing rebellious about it. It's not even really a clearly identifiable subculture.
Mostly white college kids
Hipsterdom is suprisingly multiracial.
Because they're stuck-up, privileged, liberal college kids with an absurd sense of social superiority because of their "forward-thinking" and "outside the box" mindset. Petty Bourgeois liberalism at its very, very worst.
lol. refer to my posts in the "economic crisis effect on hipsters" thread.
It's some stupid N. american
Not really. You can find "hipsters" in just about every major population center, from Sao Paolo to Tokyo.
Although they may be called something different from "hipster", of course...
Aurora
21st July 2011, 05:50
Not really. You can find "hipsters" in just about every major population center, from Sao Paolo to Tokyo.
Although they may be called something different from "hipster", of course...
We don't have em here, there's a picture of one on like the gap but no one real, it's just the new shit to whine about like emo was a couple years ago and goth before that, fuckit why don't we whine about pokemon or some shit anymore.
Os Cangaceiros
21st July 2011, 06:06
*shrug* I'm sure there are some people in Ireland who are into kitschy cheap fashion, drink cheap booze and throw themed house parties...there MUST be!
Fuck, as some article I once read said, a decade ago if you saw some dude wandering down the street wearing a v-neck and drinking a PBR, it would just be some guy walking down the street. Now that same dude is a "hipster". It's a bullshit term, for the most part.
bcbm
21st July 2011, 10:13
gavin mcinness formerly of vice and currently doing street carnage has a good opinion on hipsters
I've always found that word ('hipster') is used with such disdain, like it's always used by chubby bloggers who aren't getting laid anymore and are bored, and they're just so mad at these young kids for going out and getting wasted and having fun and being fashionable.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/03/fashion
Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk
21st July 2011, 10:59
Those picture that were posted on the first page were just pictures of bellends. You get bellends in every sub-culture.
If I could post myself, you'd see how cool people that are called 'hipsters' can be. Secondly, if I could post some hardcore mosh kids I have on facebook, I could prove that every subculture has its bellends.
Hipster is meaningless. I'm called a hipster because I don't fit into subcultures amongst my peers, but that doesn't mean to say I'm a trust fund kid or a bellend who dresses like an idiot.
bcbm
21st July 2011, 11:17
w/e people talk shit on rich hipsters i wish i was a trust fund kid having $3 in my bank account and having to pay four paychecks in a row to rent and having to choose between gas and groceries fucking sucks. give me a fucking trust fund somebody please
Gustav HK
22nd July 2011, 16:44
Don´t many hipsters also support things like Amnesty International, Fair Trade and Greenpeace?
Angry Young Man
22nd July 2011, 17:46
The more I melt into Stokes Croft, the more I think you people operate on a stereotype got from here:
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html
Which is basically a real-life 'Rise of the Idiots.' Not everybody's a Hoxton twat.
And I know none of you wouldn't know Bristol from Adam, but there's a hipster bar called 'Start the Bus' with silly wall-art and copies of Vice. So as long as you're reconciled to the fact that Start the Bus' wall-art is just silly and you don't read Vice, you're ok
Angry Young Man
22nd July 2011, 17:47
Seriously, though, never fucking ever read Vice.
Tomhet
22nd July 2011, 18:18
I don't really care if someone wants to associate with a lame sub-culture, but there music is really lame.. Lol, I'd take Linkin Park over shit like Animal collective or belle and sebastian..
bcbm
22nd July 2011, 18:28
Seriously, though, never fucking ever read Vice.
they have interesting articles sometimes actually
Angry Young Man
22nd July 2011, 18:58
When? I remember one thing they made much store by about pickled babies in China. It was just fucking photos. You can't have a cultural magazine without journalism.
Oh and then there's the famed 'Babes of the BNP' article, which, when you cut through all the content, may as well have been 3 sides of A4 of someone going 'hurrrrrrr! look! der all northern and working class and thick.'
So yea, bunch of stuck up cockney ****s.
Lyev
22nd July 2011, 19:10
It's kind of annoying when folks (mostly on here; I barely see any discussions of "hipsters" outside of revleft that are so detailed, heated or often) rally against "hipsterism" as petty-bourgeois or some crap. I guess most people that would be assigned this label would deny it too. There was a thread in learning on here recently about hippies where it was argued that hippies are from a distinct social class: Trying to argue that any subculture is composed of primarily one class is soo stupid. even if it was possible to analyse and pin it down, what the hell does it matter. And how can people get so angry or serious about the way someone dresses, or the music they listen to? who cares?
bcbm
22nd July 2011, 20:18
When? I remember one thing they made much store by about pickled babies in China. It was just fucking photos. You can't have a cultural magazine without journalism.
Oh and then there's the famed 'Babes of the BNP' article, which, when you cut through all the content, may as well have been 3 sides of A4 of someone going 'hurrrrrrr! look! der all northern and working class and thick.'
So yea, bunch of stuck up cockney ****s.
they travel to a lot of places (http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n6/htdocs/the-heart-of-bleakness.php) often ignored and while their coverage wasn't exactly heavy hitting it is still pretty interesting. and they have good articles about trends in like jamaica (http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n3/htdocs/boom-bye-bye-to-khaki-724.php) or mexico (http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n3/htdocs/look-at-these-fucking-boots-721.php) or wherevevr (http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n6/htdocs/enter-the-dragon.php)
Angry Young Man
23rd July 2011, 02:43
I clicked the first link, an article on the Congo's conflict economy and was all ready to bury my face into a massive portion of humble pie, and then a photo caption reads 'Legend has it that the Mai Mai are shape-shifters who can fly and that bullets pass through them as if their bodies are made of water,' and I realised that I was right all along.
Also, a 'friend' (he usually shares his grass with me and we have a close mutual friend) who wears red skinnies and goes on hipinion, tells me that 'Vice rates Bath.' Affirm or refute, but the reason he said so was because I was on a rant about Bath being a poxy, inbred, petty-minded market town differentiated by others of its species only by wealth and that nobody has any real culture there. This is fact, so anyone saying otherwise cannot be counted on.
Angry Young Man
23rd July 2011, 02:47
Jesus me, by the first paragraph you can tell what journalistic tourism this is. FFS, will somebody send the journalist to work for John Pilger or something? There seems to be a lot of Michael Moore hate on here, but Christ, this guy! At least Michael Moore has intent
Pirate Utopian
23rd July 2011, 03:05
http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n9/htdocs/over-the-edge-134.php
This article is cool as fuck.
bcbm
23rd July 2011, 03:14
Jesus me, by the first paragraph you can tell what journalistic tourism this is. FFS, will somebody send the journalist to work for John Pilger or something? There seems to be a lot of Michael Moore hate on here, but Christ, this guy! At least Michael Moore has intent
which is why i said it wasn't heavy hitting...
Angry Young Man
23rd July 2011, 03:30
And if you're going to the DRC to muckrake the diamond industry, you should be.
Invader Zim
23rd July 2011, 15:30
Because they're stuck-up, privileged, liberal college kids with an absurd sense of social superiority because of their "forward-thinking" and "outside the box" mindset. Petty Bourgeois liberalism at its very, very worst.
An edit: but they are lulzy as fuck.
Unlike your sense of social superiority which grants you the privilege to stereotype and castigate them because they dress differently from you - thats just carming, right?
People like you are the reason nobody takes the left seriously anymore.
bcbm
23rd July 2011, 19:42
And if you're going to the DRC to muckrake the diamond industry, you should be.
they said they were going to do a film, maybe that will be better. but i mean, shit, its vice. its a bathroom read
Angry Young Man
23rd July 2011, 22:08
Do all it's readers come to that conclusion? Or do they think it's cucumber shit with aviators?
bcbm
23rd July 2011, 22:16
all of them
Angry Young Man
23rd July 2011, 23:42
Then why read it? There's nothing of any form of use in there.
Broletariat
24th July 2011, 00:29
How did the hipster burn his mouth?
He ate pizza before it was cool.
Quail
24th July 2011, 00:29
^ I laughed.
Angry Young Man
24th July 2011, 00:53
Ditto. It may have to become a hipster kitty. Scalded my Mouth. Was drinking my tea way before it was cool.
Aeval
24th July 2011, 13:11
'Hipster' is the most extremely vague sub cultural label out there. You can be labeled a hipster for so many different reasons it is unimaginable. Most people I know who would be labeled hipsters are poor workers and students who are into 'alternative' culture (art, music, etc) and some what intellectual in an odd quirky fashion (rather than an academic way).
I dunno, whenever I hear people use the word hipster it seems to refer almost exclusively to a specific way of dressing which unfortunately also some times comes along with a bit of a superiority complex. I'd say me and my friends like "alternative" culture, we go to weird art shows and all that, but none of us would ever be labelled a hipster because we look like chavs/cybergoths/punks/hippies/non-subculture-specific people.
bcbm
24th July 2011, 21:07
Then why read it? There's nothing of any form of use in there.
gotta check out the dos and don'ts and like i said already they have some cool articles like the one about boots in mexico and jamaican dancehall
Magón
24th July 2011, 22:58
Why is there so much talk in Chit-Chat about Hipsterism!?!?!?!
I thought we all agreed, Hipsterism was indeed revolutionary (Hipster Communism), and we weren't going to talk about it because it would be too mainstream!?
-Hipster
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