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red head
24th October 2001, 23:46
i consider myself a council-communist and know that others here like Moskitto are too. i think that a communist republic, with very very small territories defined so representation is more exact, could be effective. for example, if there were 100 territories in an area, and 1 representative per teritory, the people would be better represented than if there were 50 territories. also, with small territories, the amount of work each person does could be better monitored, so capital could be distributed more evenly and everyone gets what they work for. this way, people would get ONLY what they work for, as opposed to some systems where everyone gets the same amount no matter how much they work. also, with this system, if the nation prospers, the people prosper. so if somone made $100 dollars worth of something, they'd make $100 dollars. the managers and non-producers would get there share too because the nation would be making more than its spending. this idea also rejects the ideas of all past "communist" leaders like mao and the soviets. these are just the loosely-gathered ideas of a high school student. i'd appreciate any flaws you can find or questions you might have.

vox
24th October 2001, 23:55
This is something that I have thought about, and I keep meaning to do more research.

One thing, though, doesn't soviet mean council in Russian?

vox

RedCeltic
24th October 2001, 23:57
I may be wrong on this... but I thought the name 'Soviet' came from a labor union or something...

vox
25th October 2001, 00:03
RedCeltic,

I found this place online:

http://sunsite.nstu.nsk.su/rus/tutor/dict/

If you type in "soviet" and get the Russian word (the first one) and then copy and paste that word, you get council as one of the definitions.

Russian is a bear to translate. I only know this from reading Dostoevsky in my youth.

vox

Moskitto
25th October 2001, 00:11
I greatly admire the ideas of Rosa Luxumbourg and Leon Trotsky. But I do think that the councils should be democraticly elected and there should be freedom of speech for all.

RedCeltic
25th October 2001, 01:32
I just thought I read something about getting the name 'Soviet' from a labor union but I wasn't sure on that... but anyway, thanks for the Info vox.