Ireland: Democratic Right Movement (NEW!)

[RedSquare]

Keeping an eye on the Stormfront Ireland Europe forum's "Eire Thread" I thought I'd post up the details of a new "white nationalist" group in Ireland, founded by some of the usual goons.

The so-called Democratic Right Movement was founded by Michael Quinn (https://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/michael-quinn-independent-for-life-dun-laoghaire-1992/), a failed pro-life election candidate for Dun Laoghaire in 1992 and web designer John Kavanagh (http://brianwhelan.net/post/397194645/kkkavanagh) who has been a regular feature in the tabloid papers over the last two years.

There website has a forum, and is at http://www.drmireland.com and a youtube page at http://www.youtube.com/user/ARMIreland

Mr. Quinn is not shy about his "white nationalism" and on the website people are invited to contact him to donate or apply for membership with the following contact details in the public domain:


Mr. Michael Quinn

Address: 8c Bianconi Court, Priory Bridge, Kilkenny, Ireland. (No map available, also comes up as Bianconi Court, Abbey Street, Kilkenny on Register of Electors)

Mobile Number: 085 7860722 (from international: 00353 85 786 0722)

Email: [email protected]


One to watch no doubt :laugh:

[Ravachol]

These lads are sure making a lot of friends already.



To work towards a United Ireland with equality for all its citizens.


That's sure gonna go down well over at the Shankill. There I was thinking the LVF-C18 romance meant fascism and loyalism were always meant to be, oh well...

And they're not making friends with the cokes and the contos either:



The RIRA and CIRA are left wing, they support multiculturalism - that's one of the reasons why we call them scum bags. What the point of securing a United Ireland full of non-Irish? We want a United Ireland of Irish people - see the difference?

[RedSquare]

These lads are sure making a lot of friends already.



That's sure gonna go down well over at the Shankill. There I was thinking the LVF-C18 romance meant fascism and loyalism were always meant to be, oh well...

And they're not making friends with the cokes and the contos either:

Indeed, they seem to be seriously confused. But that's always been a problem with the whole neo-nazi/white nationalist scene in Ireland as you really can't be a "nationalist" in the south if you don't support the unity of North and South.

So instantly that rules out any quick import and repackaging of Combat 18/Blood & Honour/British People's Party and the British National Party as the ideas and theories of British nationalists would be anathema to so-called Irish nationalists, as would the neo-nazi positions being espoused by some on Stormfront that the basis of Irish Independence in 1916 was part of a Jewish/Zionist conspiracy to split the British Empire, gas the Jews, etc.

Likewise, any pro-United Ireland position will alienate the Loyalist community in the North who identify themselves as British. The only common like that could be found would be in neo-nazi racialist jibberish which would claim all Nationalists/Loyalists of a common race and so they should unite on that basis. However, neo-nazism is not very palatable to tradition nationalists in Ireland so it would still only gather a handful of supporters.

Whatever their downsides, even the Contos could scrape together a more coherent ideology than this lot and probably more supporters too!

[Dr Mindbender]

That's sure gonna go down well over at the Shankill. There I was thinking the LVF-C18 romance meant fascism and loyalism were always meant to be, oh well...



To be honest i don't think these guys have any auspice of making friends with the loyalists. You have to understand Ireland has its own unique political spectrum. In the rest of the world, its left vs right. Here its green vs orange. On that particular spectrum, this lot are probably closer to Sinn Fein than they are to the DUP or TUV.

This DRM represents a wave of 'green fascism' that seems to be sweeping the island in recent years. If anything, they hate the loyalists because they believe them to be 'in cahoots' with the pro zionist order. For that matter, I doubt they'll win many fans in the nationalist north either cause they know that northern working class nationalists are too left leaning and they'll get their arses kicked out.

Their target market are the wee ignorant little ireland'ers in the republic that are disconnected from the situation in the north but still engulfed enough by the comparitively more multi cultural atmosphere in places like Dublin to perceive immigration as a threat. The recent financial crisis caused by the bumbling liberals in the South has only exacerbated the appeal of groups like the DRM.

EDIT: I just noticed youre from the falls why do i need to tell you half of this lol

[pastradamus]

Having visited that website I would bring John Kavanagh's credentials as a "web designer" into question. His business website looks quite boring too
http://www.fxwebdevelopment.com/index.php

These morons are now trying to get on the whole republican band wagon when they talk about a "united Ireland". Its a complete stupidity to suggest that dividing the 26 counties along the basis of race, religion and ethnicity works towards creating a united Ireland when these very notions are what divided it in the first place.

[RedSquare]

Having visited that website I would bring John Kavanagh's credentials as a "web designer" into question. His business website looks quite boring too
http://www.fxwebdevelopment.com/index.php

These morons are now trying to get on the whole republican band wagon when they talk about a "united Ireland". Its a complete stupidity to suggest that dividing the 26 counties along the basis of race, religion and ethnicity works towards creating a united Ireland when these very notions are what divided it in the first place.

Not a hope of that. There are a few republicans with anti-immigrant views, but generally they know that they can air them as it would result in them being kicked out of the majority of republican organisations which identify themselves as "republican socialist".

Quinn also declares he's not a National Socialist, so he'll lose a bit of favour with the Hitler worshipers and uniform fetishists that make up the core of the neo-nazi's here.

However, I do encourage anyone with the time on their hands to infiltrate their forum and do some good ole trolling.

PS: Yeah, Kavanagh's website looks pretty basic alright

[Coggeh]

Just found out about these lads recently. They are not just a forum but an active if racist organisation and one we need to put down quickly. We cannot let them exploit on the anger of working class people with their racist anti-immigrant mantra.

[RedSquare]

Just found out about these lads recently. They are not just a forum but an active if racist organisation and one we need to put down quickly. We cannot let them exploit on the anger of working class people with their racist anti-immigrant mantra.

I agree, though I think they've been going since last Summer on a low key, but they still only have the usual band of 5 or 6 who show up at their gatherings.

The danger lies in the fact that if they're allowed to hold actions unhindered they become acceptable to ordinary folk and the liberal parties. In fact they're discussing that very plan on THIS very thread. (http://www.drmireland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55&start=10) An idea from Crimethink's Anarchist Cookbook seems interesting since they're a new group: get someone who's not well known to infiltrate them and see where they're headed.

Certainly they need to be exposed to more anti-fascists. They've been under the radar for a while, but that's deliberate, they plan to build and need quietness to do it. That has to end.

[RedSquare]

For a laugh, there latest internet radio broadcast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQAIekceUY

151 views in 24 hrs

[Coggeh]

I agree, though I think they've been going since last Summer on a low key, but they still only have the usual band of 5 or 6 who show up at their gatherings.

The danger lies in the fact that if they're allowed to hold actions unhindered they become acceptable to ordinary folk and the liberal parties. In fact they're discussing that very plan on THIS very thread. (http://www.drmireland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55&start=10) An idea from Crimethink's Anarchist Cookbook seems interesting since they're a new group: get someone who's not well known to infiltrate them and see where they're headed.

Certainly they need to be exposed to more anti-fascists. They've been under the radar for a while, but that's deliberate, they plan to build and need quietness to do it. That has to end.

Theres no need for infiltration. we need a public organisation of united activists, youth and working people to make sure that they have the hardest time possible in holding anything even remotely public.

[RedSquare]

Theres no need for infiltration. we need a public organisation of united activists, youth and working people to make sure that they have the hardest time possible in holding anything even remotely public.
True, but I think it's important that whatever way they're handled, that anti-fascists and leftists make note of who's involved, other than Quinn and Kavanagh. If we can out those involved it would make their idle followers think twice about sticking their heads out for fascism.

[Dr Mindbender]

Someone should do a leftist counter to their online radio show.


Everyone here should flag their videos, get them off youtube.

[RedSquare]

Definately we should try some e-activism to get Youtube to consider removing their more explicitly racist videos. As for their broadcasting, they've changed hosts a few time and believe they're now protected under the US 1st Amendment.

Alot of their videos have over 300 views already, and they're #4 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics - Ireland

[crazyirish93]

Alot of their videos have over 300 views already, and they're #4 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics - Ireland most of those views are probably from us tbh :lol:

[RedSquare]

I see the chat board last nights "DRM Radio" broadcast was disrupted, upsetting a few of them so they just turned it off near the end. :laugh:

No surprise that there viewer numbers reached a record height for them last night.

[Paul McAndrew]

I can't post links yet..i'm too new...but please check out this relevant FB page

"Democratic-Right-Movement-Ireland-are-Ignorant-Racist-Twats"

[RedSquare]

In recent days there's been a lot of talk about using violence against the few people involved in the DRM, I just want to clarify here that I am not in favour of that tactic and it is only those who believe in giving groups such as the DRM no platform whatsoever.

At the moment, they're a laughable group and have been for the last six or so months, I see nothing that is likely to change that anytime soon. Certainly leftists should be confronting them, non-violently, and exposing the huge holes in their policy positions and thought processes.

I do not support criminal damage to their property, banners or materials. It's quiet easy to shout them out, given the fact that anti-fascists could have 50 boots on the ground at one of their protests where there would only be 5 of them.

[Paul McAndrew]

facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001828126544

...the drm's fb profile

[Aspiring Humanist]

......rip ira

[RedSquare]

I see on their forum they're after holding a successful public meeting in Monaghan last night with an alleged attendance of 51 people!

[mattieire]

Out of interest what is being done by AFA Ireland/Other groups to combat these scumbags.
From reading their fourms they have been bragging about how they have been campaigning/demonstrating in Dublin and no AFA members showed up to counter-protest.

[mas16]

they have been in the sunday world aswell say they would not share anders breivik world view as he was not racist enough

[RedSquare]

It's nearly a month since there was activity on this thread, which I think says it all about the so-called Democratic Right Movement. If they're a barometer of racist/fascist support in Ireland then it seems safe enough.

It is still the same 5-7 individuals involved although they're operating a little more publicly in recent weeks, but with little effect on their political non-existence and no gain in support.

Anti Senator David Norris protest, former Presidential candidate and gay rights activist, outside the General Post Office on O'Connell Street:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-crtXnkHlDpQ/TmSa47ljYXI/AAAAAAAAATE/i1gLgpmxa5g/s1600/DSCN0854.JPG

Same protest on the same day outside Leinster House:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kJqiFZO_EfM/TmSccR4RZ_I/AAAAAAAAATI/O4A-w7N4Gcc/s1600/DSCN0837.JPG

[pastradamus]

......rip ira
Well I wouldn't go that far.

[Hoggy_RS]

The DRM are having a protest in support of that racist one from the youtube videos on the bus/train in England outside of the British Embassy at 10am tomorrow.

There will be a counter demonstration from a broad group of Republicans.

[mas16]

the DRM didnt even turn up to there own protest

[crazyirish93]

any reason why if u know ?

[Slán_Abhaile]

the DRM didnt even turn up to there own protest

They turned up after seemly, it's even made Boards.ie in terms of ridicule.

They put out a video on youtube, titled "DRM leadership, honor Emma West". According to Indymedia Ireland there has been a split in the DRM over the protest.

[mas16]

just know theres a split between michael quinn and his sidkick

[Annoyingbeast]

They wont get very far, thats for sure.
These groups never do.
They'll become the object of hate from loads of moderate labour supporters, probably turn into an object of intense ridicule and eventually get threats from Republicans, shit themselves and disband.:D