Dreadlocks

[Leftsolidarity]

I got dreads maybe about 3 weeks ago now and I have "white people" hair. I was wondering who else here has/did have dreads so I could learn stuff about maintenance and other peoples' experiences.


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Like I said, they look rather shitty right now but I will be at the punk house next weekend and they will be getting worked on.

[Principia Ethica]

Is it possible/allowed to like block out your face and show us the hair? I wanna see!

[Sasha]

i used to have dreads, dont know if your Caucasian like me but for me it was important to pull them apart and roll them between your palms constantly to prevent them all ending up in one big dread.
also wash them with cleaning vinegar, not shampoo, regrease with coconut oil.
on the moment they start to grow out, splice them at the base, pull the dreadlock through the hole you just created, keeps them from matting.

[Comrade Crow]

I wish I could grow dreads. :(

[Leftsolidarity]

Is it possible/allowed to like block out your face and show us the hair? I wanna see!

Yeah no problem. They do look rather shitting at the moment because they were done by my girlfriend who had never done them before.

[Leftsolidarity]

i used to have dreads, dont know if your Caucasian like me but for me it was important to pull them apart and roll them between your palms constantly to prevent them all ending up in one big dread.
also wash them with cleaning vinegar, not shampoo, regrease with coconut oil.
on the moment they start to grow out, splice them at the base, pull the dreadlock through the hole you just created, keeps them from matting.

I am caucasian and that's actually what I do the whole time while I'm on Revleft haha

So cleaning vinegar doesn't leave any residue?

[praxis1966]

Yeah no problem. They do look rather shitting at the moment because they were done by my girlfriend who had never done them before.

If you're going to, just PM folks. That way you're not running afoul of guidelines. Easy enough, yeah?

[Leftsolidarity]

If you're going to, just PM folks. That way you're not running afoul of guidelines. Easy enough, yeah?

Well i only the show back and sides of my head and cover my face anyways. Is that fine to post up?

[Sasha]

I am caucasian and that's actually what I do the whole time while I'm on Revleft haha

So cleaning vinegar doesn't leave any residue?

yup, they still will become dirty as fuck though, filled with skin flakes etc, but that comes with the dreadlock package

[Leftsolidarity]

yup, they still will become dirty as fuck though, filled with skin flakes etc, but that comes with the dreadlock package

I'm used to that shit. I've had mohawks for years and I would spike them up and just leave them up for like a month at a time so they could get pretty fucking gross at times.

[praxis1966]

Well i only the show back and sides of my head and cover my face anyways. Is that fine to post up?

Meh Yeah, I guess as long as your face is well concealed it's no big shit. Do it to it.

[bcbm]

white people with dreadlocks are racists

[Principia Ethica]

I've never ever seen dreads close up in real life. Is it a gross sight to behold? Do you have to febreeze it? Just the description that psycho made makes my OCD flare up. This is why I've never done braids or cornrows. . .I gotta wash the wig twice a day.

[bcbm]

yeah they're pretty gross, and the type of person who opts to have them is usually a disgusting crustlord on top of that

[Principia Ethica]

yeah they're pretty gross, and the type of person who opts to have them is usually a disgusting crustlord on top of that

Crustlord? I've got to use that in a sentence today.

[Leftsolidarity]

I've never ever seen dreads close up in real life. Is it a gross sight to behold? Do you have to febreeze it? Just the description that psycho made makes my OCD flare up. This is why I've never done braids or cornrows. . .I gotta wash the wig twice a day.

Haha no not if the person takes care of their hair. I know many people with dreads and I'm only gross out by one set and that's because she doesn't take care of them. I have even chewwed on and licked my friend's dreads. I don't think they smell any different than normal hair except right now mine smells like honey cuz I put dread wax in it.

[Leftsolidarity]

yeah they're pretty gross, and the type of person who opts to have them is usually a disgusting crustlord on top of that

I think you are equating dreads to juggalo asshole.

And crusties are cool

[The Douche]

yeah they're pretty gross, and the type of person who opts to have them is usually a disgusting crustlord on top of that

Some of the kids in the local hardcore scene have called me "OG crustlord" before.

[Principia Ethica]

WTF is a crustlord?

[Rooster]

A friend of mine found a small toy car in his and a couple of coins. I think he back combed it with bee's wax first to get it all clumped together. Another friend of mine had really long hair that he always had tied up but he never ever washed it. Eventually he ended up with one big dread.

[Rooster]

WTF is a crustlord?

A crusty is pretty much a hippy of the old school variety mixed with a biker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusties

[Leftsolidarity]

A friend of mine found a small toy car in his and a couple of coins. I think he back combed it with bee's wax first to get it all clumped together. Another friend of mine had really long hair that he always had tied up but he never ever washed it. Eventually he ended up with one big dread.

Haha that's awesome. My friend has found random shit completely dreaded into his hair like thumb tacks and dimes.

[Leftsolidarity]

A crusty is pretty much a hippy of the old school variety mixed with a biker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusties

And awesome

[The Douche]

A crusty is pretty much a hippy of the old school variety mixed with a biker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusties

More like a hobo/traveller and a punk.

[CommieTroll]

I wish I had dreds like John Butler used to have

[Steve_j]

Comming from someone who used to have dreads, my best advice for someone with dreads is a set of clippers :P

But in all seriousness, what psyco said, although i would recomend a bar of shampoo (no conditioner) and some natural beeswax (not the furniture stuff), a bit of patience, and your well on your way to a decent set of locks.

[Comrade Crow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusties

Funny, I thought we use to call such people bums.

[Sasha]

crustys are not yor ordinary bums they are lifestylist bums

[hatzel]

i would recomend [...] some natural beeswax (not the furniture stuff)

You always know your hair is destined to success when you're being told not to put 'furniture stuff' in it :)

[Leftsolidarity]

You always know your hair is destined to success when you're being told not to put 'furniture stuff' in it :)

Haha well people with normal hair put random shit in it all the time also. I'm not too gross out by putting stuff in my hair from all the experimenting with my past mohawks.

[black magick hustla]

white people with dreads suck i assume they are into shitty music and drumcircles and heroin

[Sasha]

hey! dont hate on heroin! what did H do to deserve being throw in with drumcircles?

[Leftsolidarity]

white people with dreads suck i assume they are into shitty music and drumcircles and heroin

Who isn't?

[Principia Ethica]

What is all this hatin' on white guys with dreads? From a distance it looks kinda hot. But now that I have heard about the skin flakes and all. . .I dunno if I can deal with it up close and personal. I think it looks good though :D

[bailey_187]

theyre fucking disgusting and they look stupid. all u would need now is a bunch of shitty badges on a green backpack and urr stereotypical leftist hipppy. also listen to RATM

ahhhh :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::curs ing::cursing:

[Leftsolidarity]

Who would think that people would get so pissed about someone having a lot of knots in their hair?

[Tim Finnegan]

yup, they still will become dirty as fuck though, filled with skin flakes etc, but that comes with the dreadlock package
Or, y'know, wash them? :confused:


Who would think that people would get so pissed about someone having a lot of knots in their hair?
It's RevLeft. The knickers come thoroughly pre-twisted. http://media.bigoo.ws/content/smile/miscellaneous/smile_280.gif

[Principia Ethica]

Or, y'know, wash them? :confused:

I'm kinda stuck on that too. . .the whole skin flakes stuck in the midst part. . .

[Tim Finnegan]

I'm kinda stuck on that too. . .the whole skin flakes stuck in the midst part. . .
It's totally doable. You get special shampoos that don't leave residue that screws them up or irritates your scalp. You can't use them as often as you would regular shampoo on non-dreaded hair, because it can ruin the knots, but you can certainly pre-empt this apparent build-up of head crud.

[Sasha]

What is all this hatin' on white guys with dreads? From a distance it looks kinda hot. But now that I have heard about the skin flakes and all. . .I dunno if I can deal with it up close and personal. I think it looks good though :D

to speak in the immortal word of limp wrist:


Tight pant and wallet chains
hooded sweats and adidas drive
me insane
dread-locked crusties are hot and
can´t be beat
just double up the condom and
stay away from their feat

I love hardcore boys, I love boys hardcore

Bi-hawks and studs are really hot
Emo kids whine but I´ll give em a
shot
Tight pants skinheads with bodies
that stack
This whole damn scene makes my
eyes roll back

I love hardcore boys, I love boys hardcore

I love hardcore boys it´s too
good to be true
One on one or the whole damn crew
It´s exciting so let´s give it a
whirl
I love hardcore boys cuz they
make my toes curl

Romulin looking justin clones got
style
But sport wearing edgers are
whom we´d like to pile
After being with a peace punk in
black
we´re definite that you´re never
turning back

I love hardcore boys, I love boys hardcore


:lol:

[Principia Ethica]

to speak in the immortal word of limp wrist:



:lol:

Okay fine. . .I'll try it dammit! I just have to find one now. Craig's list? :P

[Leftsolidarity]

It's totally doable. You get special shampoos that don't leave residue that screws them up or irritates your scalp. You can't use them as often as you would regular shampoo on non-dreaded hair, because it can ruin the knots, but you can certainly pre-empt this apparent build-up of head crud.

Yeah, it's not hard to keep clean.

[bcbm]

I think you are equating dreads to juggalo asshole.

And crusties are cool

no being a filthy lice ridden drug abusing dog abusing traveler kid alcoholic piece of disgusting shit is not cool.

http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/img_3054.jpg
(http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/how-to-be-a-crusty-for-halloween/)

Who would think that people would get so pissed about someone having a lot of knots in their hair?

people who understand that privileged white punxxx and shitty hippies appropriating african hairstyles are scum


What is all this hatin' on white guys with dreads? From a distance it looks kinda hot.

no it just makes you look like a stupid tool, i immediately dismiss the opinions and entire life of any white person with dreads

[Tim Finnegan]

people who understand that privileged white punxxx and shitty hippies appropriating african hairstyles are scum
I've got to ask, on what basis are you sectioning off a particular hairstyle, by no means historically associated exclusively or universally with the indigenous people of sub-Saharan, as the exclusive purview of people of sub-Saharan descent? And, on a perhaps more pedantic level, why is it assumed that they are engaged in direct appropriation, rather than such hairstyles having already established themselves in non-exclusively or -primarily black subcultures?

[Leftsolidarity]

no being a filthy lice ridden drug abusing dog abusing traveler kid alcoholic piece of disgusting shit is not cool.


What makes them dog abusers? Do you even know any crusties? Or are you talking out of your ass like I'm assuming?



people who understand that privileged white punxxx and shitty hippies appropriating african hairstyles are scum


Where do you get "privileged" from them? Not even all crusties are white. What makes them scum to you?



no it just makes you look like a stupid tool, i immediately dismiss the opinions and entire life of any white person with dreads

Sounds racist to me.........

[Principia Ethica]

no being a filthy lice ridden drug abusing dog abusing traveler kid alcoholic piece of disgusting shit is not cool.


(http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/how-to-be-a-crusty-for-halloween/)


people who understand that privileged white punxxx and shitty hippies appropriating african hairstyles are scum



no it just makes you look like a stupid tool, i immediately dismiss the opinions and entire life of any white person with dreads

Ouch. I think this is a bit harsh. . . .no? :(

[black magick hustla]

Sounds racist to me.........

imho in my humble opinion being racist against white people is ok

[black magick hustla]

especially if they wear dreads and listen to crass

[Leftsolidarity]

imho in my humble opinion being racist against white people is ok

That's fucking stupid. Why aren't you banned?

[Principia Ethica]

imho in my humble opinion being racist against white people is ok

No.

[black magick hustla]

That's fucking stupid. Why aren't you banned?

sorry

[bcbm]

I've got to ask, on what basis are you sectioning off a particular hairstyle, by no means historically associated exclusively or universally with the indigenous people of sub-Saharan, as the exclusive purview of people of sub-Saharan descent? And, on a perhaps more pedantic level, why is it assumed that they are engaged in direct appropriation, rather than such hairstyles having already established themselves in non-exclusively or -primarily black subcultures?

http://debunkingwhite.livejournal.com/138072.html white people need to check their shit


What makes them dog abusers? Do you even know any crusties? Or are you talking out of your ass like I'm assuming?

dude i have been involved in the punk scene for like over a decade yes i know and have known and encountered many crusties. they trainhop into town make a drunken nuisance of themselves, od in your bathroom, never leave the couch until you forcibly remove them and they're always spanging with their stupid dogs to buy malt liquor while updating facebook and feeding the dog the same disgusting trash they eat which is why their dogs are all malnourished thats no life for an animal if you can't even take care of your scumfuck crustlord self don't drag some poor animal into you shitty alcoholic drug induced hell


Where do you get "privileged" from them? Not even all crusties are white. What makes them scum to you?

all white people have privilege, especially those who can opt to be traveling gutter punks or whatever. sure there are non-white crusties but i am talking about white ones. i can't imagine crusties not being scum though it seems to be part of the territory


Sounds racist to me.........

yes i am racist against my own race based on some idiots stupid hairstyles

[bcbm]

black magic hustla is right, the white race is an abomination that needs to be dissolved, treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity, god crusties don't even know racetraitor anymore what is the world coming to

[Principia Ethica]

Ummm. . .wtf happened to this thread. . . .

[Os Cangaceiros]

if you're white and have dreads then your ass had better be in a rap metal band

[bcbm]

Ummm. . .wtf happened to this thread. . . .

it got good

also crusties are the ones who move into "shitty" parts of town and squat buildings and make it safe for other white people to move in and fuel gentrification this happened in dc and chicago and new york and like everywhere else

also they are hipsters (http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2011/02/are-crusties-most-authentic-alts-world.html)

[black magick hustla]

fucking disgusting white people they are the only ones that i know that can avoid bathing in weeks fucking disgusting stain in this earth

[black magick hustla]

you have all the wealth of the fucking world and you avoid a good bath and treat animals better than human beings

[bcbm]

if you're white and have dreads then your ass had better be in a rap metal band

korn was okay i will give you that

[Leftsolidarity]

Can we get a non-racist mod to look other some of the bullshit that's been said in this thread?

[Principia Ethica]

Wow. . .I stepped into reverse stormfront. . . someone please pass me a xanax. Please.

[Tim Finnegan]

http://debunkingwhite.livejournal.com/138072.html white people need to check their shit
Thing is, all this talk about the "white dreads phenomenon" doesn't actually match up with the experiences of any white person I've known with dreadlocks, so much as a stereotype of some upper-middle class "trustafarian" sorts. They wore them because they were into metal and punk and that, and people who were into that stuff wore dreadlocks, if they felt like it; it wasn't something that people in that not-quite-scene (small shitty towns ftw) associated with people of colour in any substantial fashion. Now, I understand that such hairstyles originally entered white subcultures through what could certainly be considered appropriation, and that "let by-gones be by-gones" rings pretty hollow when white people say it to people of colour, but I'm still not getting how you go about assuming this specific, concious or even unconscious appropriation on the part of every white individual with dreadlocks. Especially when your own stereotypes of such people seem to be, if you set aside the tacked-on detail of being explicitly white, in themselves aracial.

[Savage]

I love revleft

[Obs]

Crusties are people who emerge from Starbucks with a vente latte, then sneak around the building to go dumpster diving. Rich kids with serious contempt for those who are actually homeless.

You don't want to look like one of those.

[The Douche]

A lot of people crying about oogles in this thread but calling them crusties.

Also how come nobody is whining about punks with mohawks yet?

[Tim Finnegan]

Also how come nobody is whining about punks with mohawks yet?
That reminds me, do I get to complain about Americans wearing kilts? Or does the pastiness of my skin leave my culture open to wanton looting? http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/mischief.gif

[Principia Ethica]

I'm being dead for real on what I'm about to say. I'm seriously getting a very unique look into white culture that I have not seen before. . . I don't know if this is good or bad yet. . .

[bcbm]

A lot of people crying about oogles in this thread but calling them crusties.

Also how come nobody is whining about punks with mohawks yet?

i'm getting there


Can we get a non-racist mod to look other some of the bullshit that's been said in this thread?

what's racist is to defend the continued existence of the white race. its important to realize this doesn't mean the physical group of people who comprise "whiteness" but the social construction that is "the white race," which was created in order to justify the conquest, oppression and enslavement of millions

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4:36

further evidence of its social construction can be seen in its expanding definition of what is "white," coming now to include previously excluded and oppressed groups like some sourthern and eastern europeans, jews and the irish.

[The Douche]

Whats white?

[bcbm]

"The white race is a historically constructed social formation. It consists of all those who partake of the privileges of the white skin in this society. Its most wretched members share a status higher, in certain respects, than that of the most exalted persons excluded from it, in return for which they give their support to a system that degrades them.

The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race -- in other words, to abolish the privileges of the white skin. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue, domestic and foreign, in U.S. society.

The way to abolish the white race is to challenge, disrupt and eventually overturn the institutions and behavior patterns that reproduce the privileges of whiteness, including the schools, job and housing markets, and the criminal justice system. The abolitionists do not limit themselves to socially acceptable means of protest, but reject in advance no means of attaining their goal."

[black magick hustla]

communism

[Manic Impressive]

So bcbm are you saying that you don't think people should have the right to look anyway they want based on their ethnicity?

[The Douche]

The way to abolish the white race is to challenge, disrupt and eventually overturn the institutions and behavior patterns that reproduce the privileges of whiteness

Maybe conventional standards of beauty/grooming for white people?



Or maybe its just a fucking haircut. And it means absolutely nothing. Have fun at the apoc meeting, planning attacks on other anarchist organizations and calling them racist if they resist your violence.

[black magick hustla]

people don't have a right to look like whitey with dreadlocks don't care about ur bourgeois rights

[black magick hustla]

some ppl here are getting 2 angry maybe ifthey stopped hanging out with white ppl with dreadlocks (unless they are into nu metal) nobody would make fun of them

[Manic Impressive]

some ppl here are getting 2 angry maybe ifthey stopped hanging out with white ppl with dreadlocks (unless they are into nu metal) nobody would make fun of them
why should we make fun of anyone because of their looks?

[black magick hustla]

http://api.ning.com/files/nZ0br17ruI9UjGtRPpWGmM-jCONngtZV6bWnF-fB2sjg3KaB53gnGdgViZIx-B1hjLwASXGN6gBhn42P1KaIsI7uN7hRPMeK/durkosfamily1106.JPG?width=737&height=552

what a disgusting white babby

[The Douche]

some ppl here are getting 2 angry maybe ifthey stopped hanging out with white ppl with dreadlocks (unless they are into nu metal) nobody would make fun of them

This thread has ensured that I will be growing a dread rat tail, just to upset bcbm.

[black magick hustla]

why should we make fun of anyone because of their looks?

there is a whole culture associated with white ppl with dreadlocks and its all shit it has nothing to do with looks

[Tim Finnegan]

there is a whole culture associated with white ppl with dreadlocks and its all shit it has nothing to do with looks
There is? :confused:

[Principia Ethica]

what a disgusting white babby

No. Cute baby.

[black magick hustla]

snip

[black magick hustla]

There is? :confused:

http://www.graftondrum.com/images/drum-circle-facilitation.jpg

[The Douche]

There is? :confused:

Yeah... the celts.:cool:


But some people will have you believe that the only reason a white person would have dreads is to try and appropriate black culture.

[Tim Finnegan]

http://www.graftondrum.com/images/drum-circle-facilitation.jpg
That woman doesn't even have dreadlocks... :confused:

[black magick hustla]

fuck i thought they were dreads w/e

[Leftsolidarity]

This is ridiculous. I cannot help the fact that I have white skin more than anymore else can decided the color of their skin. You're acting as if I am some sterotypical "whitey" or a hipster. :lol: You couldn't be further from the truth.

[#FF0000]

I love revleft

.

[ComradeGrant]

My hair is blue, come at me bro.

[Leftsolidarity]

My hair is blue, come at me bro.

When I dyed my bi-hawk blue it turned green within a week.

[Property Is Robbery]

Use dr bronners castile soap. It doesn't have detergent that stays behind in dreads

[Agent Ducky]

Use dr bronners castile soap. It doesn't have detergent that stays behind in dreads

And the bottle has interesting literature on it. One of them I read was anti-communist, it was entertaining. It's weird....

[bcbm]

im sorry for everything i said i dont remeber what my point was i am terrible i love you all

[bcbm]

fuck u booze

[Le Socialiste]

I've often tempted the idea of trying dreadlocks, but I always back out of it. Never can muster up the courage (that, and I can't stand greasy, unwashed hair - did that a lot in high school, not anymore). Kudos, sir. Keep at it.

[bcbm]

dont do it dreads suck skinhead or suedehead look

[Obs]

Shit, bcbm, you can sign me on the self-hating whitey list now.

[brigadista]

just putting this here...

http://zinelibrary.info/files/dreads.pdf



A Few Good Reasons Why White People
Should Not Wear “Mohawks” or Dreadlocks:
“Mohawk” is the name of a sovereign First Nation in the Iroquois Confederacy. Wearing “Mohawks” erases Mohawk people and culture.
Dreadlocks are a symbol of Black/African pride and resistance to white supremacist beauty standards and are rooted in Black/African struggles for survival and liberation.
Dreadlocks are rooted in Rastafarianism, a pan-African spiritual/religious movement for healing and decolonization for African and African people worldwide. Rastafarianism is a form of resistance to a history of white supremacy, colonization and genocide.
The traditions of people of color/non-white people are still under attack across the planet. Appropriating our traditions and ways of dressing/presenting is a further attack on our communities.
Wearing “Mohawks” or dreadlocks plays into a racist society that believes people of color and our lands, bodies, cultures and spirit are up for grabs.
“Mohawks” were popularizes in Britain and North America because of the film “The Taxi Driver.”
Appropriating other cultures means you neglect looking at your own ethnic roots and traditions.
By wearing “Mohawks” and dreadlocks, white people demonstrate they are unaware of anti-racist struggles and deteriorate trust between white people and people of color/non-white people.
Being an anti-racist white person is counter-culture. Trying to present a counter- cultural image by appropriating other cultures is not.
The hairstyle called “Mohawks” is rooted in distinct Iroquois and other First Nations/Native traditions that have only recently (1978) been legal in the United States. Non-native people who wear “Mohawks” appear naive and condescending to this reality.
By cutting off their “Mohawks” and dreadlocks, white people take a concrete step towards an anti-racist journey.
Created by Qwo-Li Driskill and Colin Kennedy Donovan for Planting Seeds Community Awareness Project.
What are you talking about? Why should I cut my dreads?
What’s wrong with a Mohawk?
Colin Kennedy Donovan and Qwo-Li Driskill
Answers for white people on appropriation, hair and anti-racist struggle.
The struggle against racism is more than just not saying racist comments or knowing that the United States was built by slave labor. It is also a struggle to recognize and understand the ways racism/white supremacy are woven into every aspect of life.
One of the ways racism plays out which is often ignored or not seen by white people is through appropriation, “the act of taking or making use of without any authority or right.” Appropriation ignores the lives and struggles of oppressed communities, and instead takes what is seen as interesting, useful or beautiful, disregarding our culture and our lives. In the US and other countries, appropriation is part of long histories of racism and genocide. Colonial governments and peoples appropriated the homelands of First Nations/Native people. Europeans appropriated the bodies of African peoples during slavery.
While our bodies, homelands and labor continue to be appropriated, so do our cultural symbols/lifeways. The New Age movement, for example, appropriates (and twists) the spiritual practices of First Nations, Asian, African and other cultures.
Among progressive/radical white people, the problem of appropriation continues to damage communities of color. Mohawks and dreadlocks worn by non-Native/non- African people is one form of appropriation that often goes unnoticed and unchallenged and is often misunderstood.
Healing the legacy and current reality of racism and colonization means looking closely at the ways we perpetuate these forms of violence. It means, in part, letting go of cultural symbols that have been appropriated from people of color/non-white people and instead looking deeply at he complex issues that surround race and racism.
But I’m not trying to appropriate anything. I just appreciate other cultures. Isn’t that okay?
Appreciating other cultures does not mean you need to appropriate any aspect of them. A true appreciation of other cultures means fighting against the forces trying to destroy them, not taking them as your own.
It’s just a Mohawk. I don’t think of it as a native thing.
And therein lies the problem.
But, I wear my hair this way as a statement against oppressive cultures and governments. How is that racist?
You can take a stand against oppression and dominant cultures without appropriating the cultures of the people being hurt by them. Appropriation actually enforces oppression, it does not stand against it. Appropriation is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
This is a free country. Can’t I do whatever I want?
This country has never been free for people of color/ non-white people. Certainly, you can chose to wear your hair however you want. Historically, however, people of color have not been able to make that choice. For instance, in the US and Canada, Native children were forced to cut their hair and wear it like white peoples’ in “boarding” or “residential” schools created to destroy First Nation cultures. Slavery was an act of owning humans. Enslaved people had no legal right to do anything with their bodies. Their bodies were private property. When white people wear “Mohawks” or dreadlocks it twists those hairstyles into symbols of privilege rather than symbols of survival and resistance.
CUT OFF YOUR DREADLOCK AND “MOHAWKS” AND HELP CONTINUE REVOLUTION AGAINST COLONIZATION AND RACISM! HELP YOUR WHITE FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME!

[Leftsolidarity]

^complete and utter bullshit^

[bailey_187]

people with dreads also go to those shit "free parties" in the countryside or some woodland outside london, filled with other assorted smelly white male weirdos who go and move around with no rythem to shit reggae and describe it with the word "phat". "it was no phat bruv, i was buzzing"

[bailey_187]

i also calculate that crackers with dreads are 54% more likley to beleive conspiracy theories

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

I've never seen a crustie. I know one guy from Belgium with some seriously awesome dreads though, but I don't think he was a crustie, he was quite well kept. Anyway, I detect some hardcore kids on this forum, and I just wanna say that your subculture is the fucking worst. All these dumb tattoos and ear stretchers (another thing the white man has taken from the black man), with all your stupid slam dancing. You ruin my gigs, I wish you'd all fuck off and stop trying to be tough and uploading your shitty pictures of you moshing with your mates and then making facebook statuses about how awesome it was to get kicked in the face last night at [shitty generic metalcore band]'s gig. Screaming down microphones to overused double bass pedals whilst wearing your shitty stretchers is the most embarrassingly white thing I have ever seen.

Fuck hippies, hardcore kids, scene douchebags, 'crusties', gangstas and anything else. You're all lame.

[Sasha]

tattoo's and stretched ears represent, i hate stupid slam dancers though, i'm too oldschool for that shit

[hatzel]

I think people should stop discussing how racist whitey-dreads may or may not be and just concentrate on how fucking pathetic they look :)

[Sasha]

what the fuck happened in this thread over night?

BCBM no more drunk posting for you you mean grumpy grandpa :lol:

[bricolage]

people with dreads also go to those shit "free parties" in the countryside or some woodland outside london, filled with other assorted smelly white male weirdos who go and move around with no rythem to shit reggae and describe it with the word "phat". "it was no phat bruv, i was buzzing"
dunno man free parties are normally just gabba and shit.
probably there'll be some hippies on some rock saying there's too much aggro and smoking weed and listening to reggae but otherwise you can just listen to that song that goes 'I WANT YOU TO PISS ON ME' for twenty minutes or something.
actually though in my experience gender ratios are pretty equal (better than you get at half the clubs in London), but dreads to non dread ratios will be nuts, as will white to non white ratios and dogs to human ratios.
still though actually the last few free parties I went to ended up with just local 'YOUTHS' with scary dogs running around scaring the hippies. this is all the more so when you are talking urban free party not rural one.

don't knock it till you've tried it.

[Tim Finnegan]

CUT OFF YOUR DREADLOCK AND “MOHAWKS” AND HELP CONTINUE REVOLUTION AGAINST COLONIZATION AND RACISM! HELP YOUR WHITE FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME!
:huh:


All these dumb tattoos and ear stretchers (another thing the white man has taken from the black man)...
Actually, I think the modern practice was adopted via South Asia, and it has turned up almost every where on the globe, including Europe, at one point or another. The same can be said of almost any body modification, really; human beings just seem to have some inbuilt desire to tamper with their bodies.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Fair enough. The only examples I have seen of ear lobe stretchers comes from tribes in Africa, as well as lip disks and the like. I wonder if they'll take off too.

[Sasha]

As far as i know most ear stretching comes from around the pacific, first people i saw with it before it became populair in the hardcore scene where mollukans an malenesian culture group oppressed by Indonesia.

[Leftsolidarity]

I don't think we have any "hardcore" kids here. I really hate calling it that though. I feel like they are stealing it from real hardcore punk without their hipster sceney bullshit.

[The Douche]

That zine is total bullshit, just saying, its filled with incorrect information, and was clearly made by somebody with an axe to grind who did absolutely no research and just wanted to make punk kids feel bad and sound super revolutionary.


I don't think we have any "hardcore" kids here. I really hate calling it that though. I feel like they are stealing it from real hardcore punk without their hipster sceney bullshit.

You're about how old? Maybe 15ish?:laugh:

[Leftsolidarity]

You're about how old? Maybe 15ish?:laugh:


17. Don't know what that has to do with me not liking hipster assholes that try to steal the name away from where it belongs though. Are you really going to pull a "hahaha durrrr he's only like 17 guys!!!11!!1 durrrrrr"?
It has nothing to do with it and I've been involved with the punk scene since about 14. I'm one of the youngest in but it doesn't mean shit.

[The Douche]

17. Don't know what that has to do with me not liking hipster assholes that try to steal the name away from where it belongs though. Are you really going to pull a "hahaha durrrr he's only like 17 guys!!!11!!1 durrrrrr"?
It has nothing to do with it and I've been involved with the punk scene since about 14. I'm one of the youngest in but it doesn't mean shit.

Do you know what a hipster is? There would certainly not be any hipsters at a metalcore show or a tough-guy show. The only hardcore shows you might find some at, would be a punk-hardcore shows.

And you think hardcore "belongs" where? Is ceremony not a punk band? Is it not ok to call them hardcore? How about agnostic front and madball, are those bands not hardcore? Do you not see the links between those bands and modern bands like TUI and harm's way?


You've been in the scene for three years...odds are you don't know a whole lot about how punk intersects with other genres. So instead of pretending that the devil wears prada is the definitive hardcore band (and that scene kids are somehow hipsters), maybe you should look a little father into the scene. Afterall, four years ago you probably thought the dropkick murphys were the pinacle of punk rock, but then you matured.

[praxis1966]

Alright, that's it. I go to bed and this thread's two pages long. Eight hours later I wake up it's up to six pages and full of idiocy so here's what I'm going to do.

The next person to flame, troll or otherwise be nonconstructive in this thread faces administrative action. Consider this a final warning to about half this thread's participants.

Fuck, man... Turn my back for like two fucking seconds...

[The Douche]

Alright, that's it. I go to bed and this thread's two pages long. Eight hours later I wake up it's up to six pages and full of idiocy so here's what I'm going to do.

The next person to flame, troll or otherwise be nonconstructive in this thread faces administrative action. Consider this a final warning to about half this thread's participants.

Fuck, man... Turn my back for like two fucking seconds...

In all fairness, I think everybody kind of resolved those issues, people apologized and explained themselves etc.

[bailey_187]

That woman doesn't even have dreadlocks... :confused:

she still has disgusting greasy hair, so halfway there.

dreadlockers: whats wrong with the grade 1 back and sides, faded into longer on top

edit: sorry Praxis just saw ur warning post, shall i delete? or would a empty post be worse? (please dont let me get infracted again)

[Principia Ethica]

Alright, that's it. I go to bed and this thread's two pages long. Eight hours later I wake up it's up to six pages and full of idiocy so here's what I'm going to do.

The next person to flame, troll or otherwise be nonconstructive in this thread faces administrative action. Consider this a final warning to about half this thread's participants.

Fuck, man... Turn my back for like two fucking seconds...

Solution: No more sleep for you. :P This post is obviously too critical to leave unmanned!

[praxis1966]

In all fairness, I think everybody kind of resolved those issues, people apologized and explained themselves etc.

Fair enough, but I can't be seen to be ignoring this sort of thing, y'know?

[The Douche]

Fair enough, but I can't be seen to be ignoring this sort of thing, y'know?

Yeah, I know there are still standards to ensure.

[bcbm]

what the fuck happened in this thread over night?

BCBM no more drunk posting for you you mean grumpy grandpa :lol:

lol it was the booze made me apologize, my race traitor rant was sober:blushing:


I don't think we have any "hardcore" kids here. I really hate calling it that though. I feel like they are stealing it from real hardcore punk without their hipster sceney bullshit.

cmoney is a hardcore warlord


Do you know what a hipster is? There would certainly not be any hipsters at a metalcore show or a tough-guy show.

except you;)

[The Douche]

lol it was the booze made me apologize, my race traitor rant was sober:blushing:



cmoney is a hardcore warlord



except you;)


I don't go to tough guy or metalcore shows.

I pretty much don't go to hardcore shows that aren't powerviolence or fastcore stuff. Unless its local or a friend's band or whatever.

[Leftsolidarity]

Looking through all of this I can't help but think we got off topic. Dread haters your voice has been heard now go away.:)
This is for talking about taking care of dreads and stories about dreads.

[Le Libérer]

white people with dreadlocks are racists

lol it was the booze made me apologize, my race traitor rant was sober

Infraction for trolling.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

'Toughguy shows'? fucking hell these hardcore kids suck.

[praxis1966]

Thread closed. Apologies to the OP for having to do so.