Surprise Communism

[JustMovement]

My new theory of revolutionary communism. You thought vanguardism didnt involve the working class enough?

Basically join a mainstream party (either social democrat or conservative, doesnt matter), kiss ass, move up the ranks, give capitalists hand jobs, kiss babies and whatever else politicians do.

Then, get elected head of the Government.

Then give my first speech as prime minister in front of television to the whole nation

THEN ANNOUNCE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETERIAT AND TELL THE WORKING CLASS TO SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!

Then get assasinated live on television by the secret services...

[Apoi_Viitor]

Entryism?

[Sir Comradical]

Funny enough the USSR was overthrown in that manner. I guess one could call it 'surprise capitalism'.

[Pirate Utopian]

Obama is already doing this.

[JustMovement]

Obama is already doing this.

Shhh comrade, we would not want to alert anyone else to the conspiracy, those tea party types in the US have already started to catch on to the plan.

[MarxSchmarx]

Ever heard of a "vote of no confidence"? You do this and you've got at best a few weeks to try and fail mightily to implement your vision of socialism through an encrusted and entrenched bureaucracy.

[hatzel]

Ever heard of a "vote of no confidence"? You do this and you've got at best a few weeks to try and fail mightily to implement your vision of socialism through an encrusted and entrenched bureaucracy.

Not if you read a load of Carl Schmitt and decide to become a merciless dictator and prove your sovereignty by declaring a state of emergency and suspending the possibility of the vote of no confidence. This is a great idea. Do that! :)

[Crux]

My new theory of revolutionary communism. You thought vanguardism didnt involve the working class enough?

Basically join a mainstream party (either social democrat or conservative, doesnt matter), kiss ass, move up the ranks, give capitalists hand jobs, kiss babies and whatever else politicians do.

Then, get elected head of the Government.

Then give my first speech as prime minister in front of television to the whole nation

THEN ANNOUNCE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETERIAT AND TELL THE WORKING CLASS TO SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!

Then get assasinated live on television by the secret services...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Jospin#Trotskyist_affiliation
While the idea of super secret communists is of course interesting it has proven to be quite a bad strategy. Fun way to waste time though.

[A.J.]

My new theory of revolutionary communism. You thought vanguardism didnt involve the working class enough?

Basically join a mainstream party (either social democrat or conservative, doesnt matter), kiss ass, move up the ranks, give capitalists hand jobs, kiss babies and whatever else politicians do.

Then, get elected head of the Government.

Then give my first speech as prime minister in front of television to the whole nation

THEN ANNOUNCE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETERIAT AND TELL THE WORKING CLASS TO SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!

Then get assasinated live on television by the secret services...

Such a scenario would inevitably lead to a Allende/Pinochet-style situation.

[Angry Young Man]

Entryism into the Tory party? Oh, that's actually hilarious.

I was hoping surprise communism'd be a bit like surprise sex: it's not sedition if you shout surprise.

But yea, when I'm asked what X-Man I'd be, I always say Mystique. First off, I could turn myself into someone attractive enough for my flatmate, then I'd turn myself into the Queen and implement socialist policies.

[Tablo]

I would do it for the lolz.

[Susurrus]

I think the look on everybody's face and the cheers from Revleft would be enough reason to do this, even if you do get impeached/whatever. Fidel Castro would probably have a heart attack though.

[Agent Ducky]

I thought it would be like Surprise Adoption....

Lol though and good luck with that. You'd have to infiltrate Congress/other branches too and get control of the military.

[Il Medico]

Without reading the thread or Op, I'm gonna assume, based on the title, that this thread is about the "Surprise Theory" of implementing a communist society. A theory, which I imagine, would entail the proletariat hiding around a corner at the end of a hallway, jumping out at the Bourgeois, yelling "Surprise!" and taking off with the means of production.

[Comrade Crow]

I thought it would be like Surprise Adoption....

Well, just like with surprise sex, it's no good unless they consent.

But I suppose this entryist fantasy would be cooler and or more fruitful than just offing a prez, all Leon Czolgosz style.

[Susurrus]

If a network of revolutionaries were to infiltrate the government, the police, the military etc, this could possibly be carried out. On the other hand, this would prove Nixon, McCarthy, and all the other red scare people correct about the massive communist conspiracy taking over America.

[Agent Ducky]

Without reading the thread or Op, I'm gonna assume, based on the title, that this thread is about the "Surprise Theory" of implementing a communist society. A theory, which I imagine, would entail the proletariat hiding around a corner at the end of a hallway and jumping out at the Bourgeois, yelling "Surprise!" and taking off with the means of production.

That sounds completely sound to me. :lol:

[-marx-]

Without reading the thread or Op, I'm gonna assume, based on the title, that this thread is about the "Surprise Theory" of implementing a communist society. A theory, which I imagine, would entail the proletariat hiding around a corner at the end of a hallway, jumping out at the Bourgeois, yelling "Surprise!" and taking off with the means of production.
I LOL'D :laugh:

[OhYesIdid]

Without reading the thread or Op, I'm gonna assume, based on the title, that this thread is about the "Surprise Theory" of implementing a communist society. A theory, which I imagine, would entail the proletariat hiding around a corner at the end of a hallway, jumping out at the Bourgeois, yelling "Surprise!" and taking off with the means of production.

SHHHH!!! This is not the place to discuss peek-a-booism!