What do you Believe?

[RyeN]

Just wondering how many people belive in what?

[ComradeJunichi]

Atheist.

[the SovieT]

atheism... the logical choice....

[Dhul Fiqar]

Other: Lots of spirituality but no religion.

[redstar2000]

Atheism...Just Do It!

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas

[Dhul Fiqar]

Kafers! ;)

--- G.

[Rastafari]

I beleive I can Fly!
I believe I can touch the sky!
(He also beleived he could have sex with young girls, I reckon').


Mixed tidbits of all of the above (except Devil-Worship, its for dumb poseur-fucks)

[Sasafrás]

Agnostic

[Jesus Christ]

very spiritual, but dont believe in god so i chose Buddhism

[Zombie]

i believe in the holy Buddy Christ.

[Rastafari]

He's on my dashboard!!!

http://home.cshore.com/bucwheat/wrkbn/buddy/bud1.jpg



honestly, folks, I beleive in Jesus the Athlete.
Here he is blocking a kid's shot:
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3981.jpg

Here he is about to be boxed for tripping:
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3978.jpg

Here he is tackling some heathen and fumbling the ball to another Christian Kid:
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3976.jpg

These three are quite similar. I call them the "Jesus is holding my staff" pictures:
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3975.jpg http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3982.jpg http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3984.jpg


Here our good lord is helping two kids beat the shit out of each other. Very Christian
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3985.jpg

This one involves Jesus' rath-He is smiting the gay kid off of his bike:
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3987.jpg

Finally, Jesus is a pretty little dancer:
http://www.dom007.co.uk/logos/buddy/DE_3983.jpg

[Sasafrás]

Jesus is my homeboy.

[Sasafrás]

Mary is my homegirl (Not the same Mary that's mentioned in my sig)...

[Dhul Fiqar]

Divine Interventions! (http://www.divine-interventions.com)

[IHP]

I thought mine would have been pretty clear with all the threads on religion lately.

But anyway, I am zen Buddhist.

[Rastafari]

OM

[Rastafari]

http://www.divine-interventions.com/guest/.../guestbook.html (http://www.divine-interventions.com/guest/guestbook.html)


I officially beleive in hell now, and all of these people are headed straight for it.

[suffianr]

What the fuck is Hail Bop Commet??!!1 :lol:

[commie kg]

Officially atheist, and damn happy I am.

[Blackberry]

This question appears in the census. Only need 6 more submissions so that I can release the results.

Anyway, I selected atheism, of course.

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[the SovieT]

Amen

[Purple]

I only believe in Karma! And some satanic philosophi... but not that concerning religion, or self-worshipping..

[Beccie]

I’m hesitant to call myself a Christian because my beliefs are radically different to those who also call themselves Christian (I would confidently argue that they are not Christians at all)… I love the ideas generated by liberation theology, a movement against oppression in Latin America. Unfortunatley the CIA but a stop to the development of liberation theology.

[YKTMX]

I don't follow any organised religion, but I am still unsure of the existence of "god", whatever that is. Besides, I don't want to go to hell.

[Purple]

I want to go to hell... I don't think that Lucifer is evil.. I think that he just takes those who God don't think is "worthy" for heaven.. Better an eternity in hell, than an eternity where you are judgemented by what your thoughts are..

[Umoja]

I'm a Christian Gnostic, which puts me at odds with other christians more or less. I'm also vaguely interested in Chaos (a modern "variation" of Discordianism) but the "magick" part of it turns me off.

[El Commandante]

Atheist

[RedAnarchist]

I'm a baptised Anglican, with a Catholic father and Anglican mother.

At the moment, i'm very liberal anglican, but thinking of becoming Pagan - also considering Buddhism.

[truthaddict11]

Atheist

[Dhul Fiqar]

Suffianr: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/

--- G.

[Danton]

I beleive in a long, prolonged derangement of the senses.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Danton - if I could I would make you an admin for that! I take it that was meant as a Morrison/Baudelaire/Rimbaud quote? In any case - it rocks :)

--- G.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I'm a filthy heretic and a heathen

[Ian]

Militant Atheist

[IHP]

Why "militant"?

[RevolucioN NoW]

Atheist

Religion is so obviously flawed unfortunatley.

I see it as a means that the rich use to stay in power through brainwashing.

:ph34r:

[marxstudent]

Christian. Not a religious one but I still have some Christian values. I'm not sure if the Bible is a lie or not yet. I'm in the process of finding out...

[Exploited Class]

Agnostic

I don't have such an ego to believe that I can know that there is or is not a higher being. If something doesn't exist, I can't prove it doesn't exist. At the same time the possibility not the probability that something much larger than myself can exist without me having any proof to offer up otherwise.

I have no ability to know either way and I am very comfortable with that. Perhaps there is something on the other side when I die or not, either event it will be an adventure or not.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2003, 02:19 AM
Why "militant"?
Because religion is forever being forced on me, at school, at home, it's the only way to cope!

Moreover, why not "militant"? I'd rather not be a softy on the intellectual dishonesty that is religion.

[shakermaker]

atheist

[RyeN]

I searched all over for any information about the return of the hale bopp comet. No information was found. It was said that those who sacrificed thier lives during the passing of the comet would leave thier earthly bodies and join thier allien overlords on a space voyage with the meteor. Such a great idea and the gouvernment who controls the mass media has allowed no information of its return to be avaliable. Coincidence or not?

[BuyOurEverything]

I believe that religion is humanity's search for a father figure (among other things.) In other words, atheist.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2003, 08:41 AM
I searched all over for any information about the return of the hale bopp comet. No information was found. It was said that those who sacrificed thier lives during the passing of the comet would leave thier earthly bodies and join thier allien overlords on a space voyage with the meteor. Such a great idea and the gouvernment who controls the mass media has allowed no information of its return to be avaliable. Coincidence or not?
Errr... You have to have had it pass a few times before you can tell when it will return, I mean can you tell when the next 513 Bus will come if you have only seen one go past?

[The Feral Underclass]

I voted athiest...God simply can not exist. if he was to exist, what would he be? He could not be a person made frm flesh and bones with a heart because he would be mortal, and able to die, therefore he could not be a god. So if he was some kind of spirit like ghost thing then what could be be made out off...God would need to have a brain in order to have a mind so he could create things, so he could not be air air, how can air have a brain. Regardless of that a brain can not live with out blood and blood can not exist without what ever makes blood, and blood can not pump to the brain without a heart or without veins, and if that is the case, you can kill a brain by stabbing it which would stop the heart or you could stab the heart and stop the brain, but god is immortal and everlasting and can not die. the same for fire, earth or water.. so what else could he be....he could not be something other than liquid gas or solid, it is impossible.

Even after all that, how could God have created the earth...you can only create something if you have a knowledge of it first. How could he make water if he hadnt learnt that combining hydrogen and two oxygens make water....and even if he did know all this he would have had to have a brain and he could only have got a brain if he evolved, but if he was the first thing ever, what did he evolve from....God simply could not exist..........:ph34r:

[Exploited Class]

All I can say about if god could physically exist. As far as we have a working knowledge of our science, god would not exist. But do to the fact that there are infinit possibilities out there that perhaps we can not think of or perhaps never think of a greater entity could exist. I mean god could be existing within all the unused space right next to quarks... I don't know and I don't pretend to know all the possibilities.

I am 100% sure that if there is a god, it isn't the one in any of the books written about he/she or any of the religions based upon him/her.

I don't know that 5000 lightyears from here there isn't a planet with a group concious of elephant like animals that are physically able to alter the universal structure and laws of physics at a whim.

I just say be saitisfied with not knowing.

I don't have issues with knowing or not knowing if something doesn't exist, I think we would be all the happier and you know, nobody would build religions of maybes. It isn't the wondering if a god exists, it is thinking that god does exist and having religions splinter from that.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

other--agnostic for me...

What is a satist?

[Pete]

Statist= one who believes in satin, and I'm assuming De Vey Satin??


Okay for me, lets see how this works: Athestical secular natrualist. How does that sound?

Atheistical: There is no god. Obviously.
Secular: Political, scientific, ect.
Naturalist: Human's are not supreme, but one among many (not a humanist).

I am also a 'student of religoin,' if you want to call it that, and am reading the Upanisads, Greek myths, and the Bibile to gain a better understanding of these worldviews. Hinduism makes the most sense right now, but it is still theistic and highly xenophobic and classist. It beats the other two by a long ways...

-Pete

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2003, 01:11 AM
What the fuck is Hail Bop Commet??!!1 :lol:
I was wondering that too. :unsure: I’m atheist and respect everybody’s personal beliefs.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Atheism

[Dhul Fiqar]

The Hale-Bopp thing was a suicide cult btw.

--- G.

[Metanoia]

Upon the need to confirm to a neat little label I prefer Gnostic Pagan.

My belief in god is monophysite, which basically means one god with many faces. By this I mean that I believe each god, be it allah, jehovah, hermes, osiris, or even kali and cerridwen, are all aspects of one god who is largely unknowable and undefinable as per a gnostic standpoint.

I also enjoy theosophy, mythology and gnosticism perspectives which allow me to flawlessly combine religion/spirituality with scientific logic where each compliment each other rather than contradict.

In my influences you will find anything from Buddhism to Wicca, including christological gnosticism and hermeticism to name but a few.

[Sensitive]

I've been an atheist for 10 years (and most of that time I was in a Christian fundamentalist school).

Anyway, I'll see you all in hell. :lol:

[Danton]

Danton - if I could I would make you an admin for that!

I shit admins...

[Pete]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 07:16 PM
very spiritual, but dont believe in god so i chose Buddhism
I foudn this disturbing. Do you even know what Buddhism is? Are you trying to escape samsara through Guatmatma's teachings? Picking a label because of stereotypes placed on it by outsiders is not a good idea. Brahman is atman. Atman is the self. Brahman is the absolute. The wise call him by many names. There are 33 000 000 gods in Hinduism (from where Buddhism springs), all of which are Brahman. Indra is Brahman, Agni is Brahman, I am Brahman, a blade of grass is Brahman. To escape samsara is to become brahman...too live forever as the godhead itself...

Or are you just a naturalist? A spiritual naturalist opposed to my secular naturalism?

[lifetrnal]

Agnostic

[Discontinuity]

I picked other. As someone else said... spiritual, but not religious.

Or rather, religious in my own religion, which is only mine. ;)

I believe in a vague sort of god-being, but it's long and difficult to explain.

I also believe in proper spelling and representation of major belief systems, but that's just me. :rolleyes:

[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 13 2003, 11:23 PM
atheism... the logical choice....
Deism...the right choice

[Hawker]

I don't believe in any religion,but I do believe in God.Catholics,protestants,etc. to they really don't know how to worship God in the right way.I think that Jesus' before his death explained to the apostles how he wanted the church to be runned after his death,but the apostles ignored it and made their own church.Does believeing in God,but not worshipping him as catholic or protestant make me an aethist?

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Athiest who thinks religion ought to be banned. ^_^

[IHP]

Pete, what's your take on Samsara and Nirvana? As you might have read, my faith is somewhat Buddhist. My interpretation of Samsara and Nirvana are summed up in this short story:

A samurai visited a Zen master for instruction, but he was clearly full of his own importance.

"Are heaven and hell real?" he asked

"I see you're soldier," replied the master, "but you look a very poor speciman to me."

"How dare you talk to a samurai like that!" the man shouted, and grabbed the hilt of his sword to emphasize his point.

"Oh, you have a sword!" sneered the master. "It doesn't look very sharp. Maybe you should use it for chopping wood."

With that the samurai completely lost control, and drew his sword. "And there," commented the Zen master, "open the gates of hell."

The samuria, suddenly aware of what he was doing, put the sword away.
"There," continued the master, "are the gates of heaven"

In Zen, these concepts are a state of mind of the 'here and now'

I'm not to hot on other Buddhist teachings. What's the story in regards to Samsara and Nirvana?

[Pete]

I know more Hindu than Buddhist...but I just found your wording a bit worrying. Taking it but not undestanding it, but I am wrong.

Samsara: the wheel of time. The cycle of death, life, death, relife, death, relife, ect ect. Karma is used for worldly things, or for coming back in a higher varsnu. Not really agreeable with leftism, or atleast my interpretation of Karma that is.

Niravana: reaching the centre point of Samsara, where time no longer moves, thus escaping Samsara.

[IHP]

That quote you took about calling themselves buddhist wasn't from me. I'm already a Zen Buddhist. I was just wondering what you thought of the more mainstream buddhist thought.

[IHP]

Looking back, that quote that said they chose Buddhism was from liberAL.

[Pete]

Ahh. I didn't take the time too look back.

Tut tvam asi... ahh the sages. Wait. That is hinduism.

"Religion" is a deep word, and eastern religoin are hardly unified religion. Buddhism, like hinduism, also has that as the case. It is hard to pin the point on what Buddhism isn't sometimes.

Gautoma was one in a line of 24 was he not?

[CompadreGuerrillera]

I believe even if there is a god of some sort, wed never be able to prove it, i am leaning on the side that there is not a god, but i cant prove it, and quite frankly i dont really care, it doesnt effect my life, actions, or the common person, it was invented to keep moral control over a tribe's citizens, and not rely to heavily on DIRECT control, but the tribe leaders would control the Religion. this is how it worked in the early days, it is essentially the same thing today in SOME places. I dont really need it, and i dont feel it is for me to understand, things will happen will happen, things u can prevent u may u may not prevent. Plus i think it is too confusin and complicated for me to understand, so i really dont care if there is or there isnt. and EVEN IF there were, would we still need gods? i dunno, but i dont think anyone will even know.

..I voted Other for Agnostic

[IHP]

Pete,

Buddhism is hard to pin down. I don't understand, nor have I really studied Buddhism in the traditional sense (Tibetan buddhism for example). As a Zen buddhist, I dismiss Siddharta Gautama as any kind of prophet. He was simply enlightened. We can all understand as much as Buddha. I am Buddha, you are Buddha, Buddha is three pounds of flax.

[Pete]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 12:01 AM
Pete,

Buddhism is hard to pin down. I don't understand, nor have I really studied Buddhism in the traditional sense (Tibetan buddhism for example). As a Zen buddhist, I dismiss Siddharta Gautama as any kind of prophet. He was simply enlightened. We can all understand as much as Buddha. I am Buddha, you are Buddha, Buddha is three pounds of flax.
Ahh... then I think Zen Buddhism may be a different name for a sect of hinduism. Brahamin is all. I am brahamin, as are you, as is the bloated horse named death... That is a very hindu belief, I am sure, though, there are great points of divergence (such as their are in varying forms of leftism to use a prevelant analogy) between hinduism and zen buddhism, as there are with the zen and tibetan buddhists.

-Pete

[marxstudent]

My aunt and uncle practice zen and they have tried getting me into it. All I can say from personal experience is that it's very confusing- maybe more than Christianity. They said that the mind is like a wall barrier and once you get rid of that barrier everything is nothing. My uncle would say that the monitor you are looking at really is not a monitor- it's nothing... very confusing to me.

I agree that religion can be argued but nothing will be established. I've been arguing w/ my protestant perspectives class for two weeks, taking the atheist's view point, and the class and I just argue in circles w/ no direct answers coming out. Tricky stuff.

[IHP]

I'm not sure about the sect of Brahmin. Zen is pretty widespread itself, however. In China (Ch'an) Japan (Zen) and Korea (Son). I don't know of any closer connection to Hinduism apart from the Buddhist origins. To be honest I know nothing about Hinuism.

You are right about differing points with Zen and Tibetan Buddhism. To me, Tibetan is the Buddhist equivalent of Catholicism. Zen drops all the crap that is involved there.

Marxstudent,

Practicing Zazen is uncomfortable at first. But it's like learning to ride a bike. You fall off and it's painful, but it's all to do with the mind. ONce learnt, never forgotten. I remember when I first started, I would hallucinate and see ripples and waves in the carpet. Now my twenty minutes or so a day feels like blissful eternity...

[[email protected]]

I'm Christian! Have been Catholic all my life-hold the bullets!

[Mano Dayak]

I'm a more or less believing (but not anymore practising) Roman Catholic, but I have problems with some terms like "Virgin Mary" or "Resurrection", I just can't think there is something with it.

[Rasta Sapian]

God is real! however, religion is overated


just live ja life u wanna live, peace

[PeacefulAnarchy]

I have my own sort of religion. I lean towards Wicca, but I believe that everyone dies into what they believe in. I believe in reincarnation and past lives and lost souls and spirits and what not. Oh and there isn't a hell. If there is a god than there must also be a goddess for almost everything in nature is both masculine and feminine. Both the goddess and god, if they exist, are both good and evil. They arent some divine being that's perfect. Perfection doesn't exist nor will it ever exist, whether it's in the after-life or this one. I guess that's all to really say.

[Sartrefan]

I clicked 'atheist' but that's probably too bold--seems any argument concluding "therefore, X does not exist" is a fragile as the args. for a god.

how about a category "DWAI"--don't worry about it...conduct your life in the moment, stop fretting the future, as de Beauvoir suggests 'accept no external absolutes'--and work to make freedom real whenever it makes sense to do so.

then you don't need a god (and if you keep one handy for holidays, that's just dandy)

[Palmares]

(Sexy) semi-open-minded-agnostic.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

I am an atheist, but I do think that Budhism contains a lot of truth. Meaning Zen, Acupunture etc.

[apathy maybe]

I must say that while bred a Roman Catholic I have changed my beliefs as I have read a lot of stuff (basicily since I started coming here, but not just reading here).

I still believe in a God, but what type I don't know (one that created everthing anyway, I think it's logical). I also think that humanity is not the pinicale of everything (so I guess I'm a naturalist).

Umm. Really I also believe that the world is round. And may very possiblly be at the centre of the universe with everthing moving around it (while it stays still), but it is all contrived to make it seem that it is not at the centre of the unverse.
I also believe in ignorence. (As in there will always be some and it must be taken into account).

[Soviet power supreme]

Hail Bop Commet [ 2 ] [2.25%]

This must be a joke. :lol:

But could anyone give me a link about this cult.

[General A.A.Vlasov]

I do not belive in god. But I support our Orthodoxal church.
I also interested in Buddism.

[Sheep]

I don't see how you can refute the existence of an almighty god with evidence like this...

[bush youth]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 11:29 PM
I don't see how you can refute the existence of an almighty god with evidence like this...
wow, that's so cool :D
I guess God exists after all! And such blatant evidence too, who could deny it?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

what am i supposed to see?
it doesn't work for me. :(

[bush youth]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 11:42 PM
what am i supposed to see?
it doesn't work for me. :(
Jesus if you blink fast enough
But at first I thought it was Che.

[Sartrefan]

:huh: YE FECKING GODS, SHEEP!!! It's Space Ghost!!! Put one up for Brak, put one up for Brak!