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el_chavista
7th July 2011, 15:47
Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaim told The Associated Press (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mobile/?type=story&id=2015531036&st_app=ip_news_lite&st_ver=1.2)

Libyan forces have evidence that Colombian mercenaries funded by the West and its Arab allies have joined the rebel fighters trying to advance toward the capital Tripoli from the western rebel-held city of Misrata.

Some of the Colombian fighters had been killed in clashes near Misrata on Wednesday, he said. While Kaim was not immediately able to provide evidence to substantiate the allegation, he said it would soon be shown to journalists based in Tripoli.

Geiseric
7th July 2011, 16:20
Wanna bet some of the mercs are from FARC?

el_chavista
7th July 2011, 16:32
Wanna bet some of the mercs are from FARC?
It is unlikely. They rather may be "para-military" or just kind of Black Water employees.

danyboy27
7th July 2011, 16:45
It is unlikely. They rather may be "para-military" or just kind of Black Water employees.

I think it would be better having all the evidences together before making broad assumptions.

bailey_187
7th July 2011, 16:53
Wanna bet some of the mercs are from FARC?

thats pretty unlikley. why would FARC fighters go and sign up to fight for NATO? if this is true, its more likley to be the groups that fight FARC

Spartacus.
7th July 2011, 17:09
Wanna bet some of the mercs are from FARC?


No, the FARC "mercenaries" are fighting on the Gaddafi's side. :D At least according to the Colombia Reports and Washington Times... Both very unreliable sources.

According to them, FARC female snipers are defending Gaddafi and shooting rebels at Misrata.



Libyan rebels have claimed that Colombian female rebel snipers are fighting for Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi, reported The Washington Times on Tuesday (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/12/libyan-rebelscolombian-female-snipers-fighting-for/).
According to the newspaper, pro-Gaddafi prisoners and eyewitnesses in the partially-rebel held city of Misurata have been giving reports of the deadly aim of female rebel shooters, although no Colombians have been killed or captured in Libya and no foreign entity confirms the allegation.
Rebel sources said that the Colombian fighters are part of an international team of snipers operating from the Misurata roof tops. They added that they have captured Algerian mercenaries and believe Gaddafi is also receiving aid from Belarus, Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Niger and the Ukraine.
A doctor who only gave his first name "Khalid", said, "They are shooting to kill," referring to the head, chest and neck injuries his patients have received.
A U.S. official however told the Washington Times he doubts that Gaddafi is receiving significant foreign help.
Information on the computer of FARC (http://www.insightcrime.org/criminal-groups/colombia/farc) commander "Raul Reyes," who was killed in 2008, indicates Gaddafi's ties to Colombia (http://colombiareports.com/), apparently showing that a letter was sent to Gaddafi in 2000 requesting a 5 year $100 million loan (http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/15045-farc-requested-100-million-from-gaddafi-to-buy-missiles.html) to buy surface-to-air missiles although it is not known whether the money or the weapons materialized.
Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos told German publication Der Spiegel earlier this month, it is "clear ... that [FARC] still has connections to Gaddafi. Libya even offered them $300 million. But we don't know if the FARC actually received the money."
According to Jaime Daremblum, director of the Center for Latin American Studies at the Hudson Institute and former Costa Rican ambassador to the U.S., the FARC has highly trained female fighters capable of using modern firearms.

http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/15564-colombian-females-snipers-fighting-for-gaddafi.html


Libyan rebels are receiving reports that female snipers from Colombia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/colombia/) have joined other mercenaries fighting to keep dictator Moammar Gadhafi (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/muammar-al-gaddafi/) in power.
No Colombians have been captured or killed, but rebels this week said they have received accounts of their deadly marksmanship from pro-Gadhafi (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/muammar-al-gaddafi/) prisoners and from eyewitnesses in the besieged city Misurata, the largest city in western Libya (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/libya/) still under partial rebel control.
Rebel sources said the Colombians are part of a wider force of snipers firing from vantage points atop buildings in Misurata.
“They are shooting to kill,” said Khalid (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/khalid/), a doctor in Misurata who gave only his first name. He said most of the injured have head, chest and neck wounds.
The account of the female warriors from Colombia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/colombia/) came this week as rebels identified a host of foreigners fighting for the Gadhafi regime or supplying the dictator with valuable material. Mercenaries are paid up to $1,000 a day, according to some reports.
The presence of the South American mercenaries suggests that Col. Gadhafi (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/muammar-al-gaddafi/) could be recruiting fighters from the communist rebels of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/revolutionary-armed-forces-of-colombia/), known by their Spanish initials, FARC (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/revolutionary-armed-forces-of-colombia/).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/12/libyan-rebelscolombian-female-snipers-fighting-for/


I doubt any of that is true. It is probably just part of propaganda that is thrown at Gaddafi in order to discredit his regime and to portray him as totally unpopular dictator that has to rely on mercenaries in order to keep his population in check. How could FARC, even presuming that they have good relations with the Gaddafi, transport dozens of snipers from Colombia to Lybia in the middle of the conflict in both Colombia and Lybia, with Lybian airports and ports being closed and blockaded by NATO. It makes no sense. But, presuming that is true, I hope FARC girls are going to blast the brains out of those imperialist-supported, black-people-lynching, islamic-monarchist-terrorist-Al-Qaeda scumbags!!!! :D

Go on girls!!!!! :)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bLa3w2Ku5MY/SlpCBlGjCJI/AAAAAAAAAgI/53uaZyH6i-0/s400/farc_p.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2008/08/21/farc460x276.jpg

http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/guerrilleros___farc_colombia.jpg

Salyut
7th July 2011, 17:30
It is unlikely. They rather may be "para-military" or just kind of Black Water employees.

Erik Prince's (fyi the dude who was behind Blackwater) new outfit in the UAE has Columbian contractors working for it.

My guess is that he found a buyer for what he was selling.

RedSonRising
7th July 2011, 17:41
No, the FARC "mercenaries" are fighting on the Gaddafi's side. :D At least according to the Colombia Reports and Washington Times... Both very unreliable sources.

According to them, FARC female snipers are defending Gaddafi and shooting rebels at Misrata.



http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/15564-colombian-females-snipers-fighting-for-gaddafi.html



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/12/libyan-rebelscolombian-female-snipers-fighting-for/


I doubt any of that is true. It is probably just part of propaganda that is thrown at Gaddafi in order to discredit his regime and to portray him as totally unpopular dictator that has to rely on mercenaries in order to keep his population in check. How could FARC, even presuming that they have good relations with the Gaddafi, transport dozens of snipers from Colombia to Lybia in the middle of the conflict in both Colombia and Lybia, with Lybian airports and ports being closed and blockaded by NATO. It makes no sense. But, presuming that is true, I hope FARC girls are going to blast the brains out of those imperialist-supported, black-people-lynching, islamic-monarchist-terrorist-Al-Qaeda scumbags!!!! :D

Go on girls!!!!! :)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bLa3w2Ku5MY/SlpCBlGjCJI/AAAAAAAAAgI/53uaZyH6i-0/s400/farc_p.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2008/08/21/farc460x276.jpg

http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/guerrilleros___farc_colombia.jpg

Did you really just call that link in your signature "unbiased"? Because I believe in that thread, you just called an attack on soldiers that left a child dead either

-A single isolated civilian death with none to accompany it.
-Unintentional, and therefore acceptable.
-Probably just lies because every negative thing the FARC does can be instantly attributed to Bourgeois media manipulation.

Spartacus.
7th July 2011, 18:23
Did you really just call that link in your signature "unbiased"? Because I believe in that thread, you just called an attack on soldiers that left a child dead either

-A single isolated civilian death with none to accompany it.
-Unintentional, and therefore acceptable.
-Probably just lies because every negative thing the FARC does can be instantly attributed to Bourgeois media manipulation.


Hi!

I'm glad to see that you are reading my News topic. :D You could contribute something.

If you feel that the FARC is presented too positively in my topic, you are free to present information that prove your point. I'm not trying to prevent anyone from giving their opinion and telling their side of the story. All I do is copy news from some burgeous news source (most often Colombia Reports) and give some short comment. Yes, I'm biased in favour of the FARC, but I'm not making up my own stories.

As to the child that was allegedly killed, I have just copied the news (I could have removed that part, if I wanted) and reminded the readers of the fact that Colombian army has the habit of exterminating thousands of children and presenting them as guerrillas (false positives). That's the fact you can't deny. So, why would it be so strange that they have after their defeat by the FARC in combat (they lost 5 men, IIRC), shot a child in retaliation and presented it as a "victim" of the FARC to the naive and uninformed audience? There were such instances. I could prove it with documentation from the burgeous sources, if you want...

Also, author James Brittain has in his book documented such cases of "false flag" attacks. According to him, in 1998, Maria O’Grady once wrote a news article about how the FARC-EP had booby trapped a truck to explode and kill state forces, but it went off early and killed civilians. Luis Alberto Galvis Mujica, a survivor and witness from said attack, wrote a letter to her and the Wall Street Journal saying he saw the attack being carried out by state and paramilitary forces, not the FARC-EP. In another incident, a bomb went off in Bogota and killed one civilian and 26 soldiers. It was immediately blamed on the FARC, but then an army commander came out and said the army had planted the bombs (Brittain, 172).

Oh, and here is another "reliable" and "unbiased" burgeous report about the FARC and its ties with Al-Qaeda from your own, Colombian TV. I hope that after watching it you will understand that it is necessary to be sceptical about everything we hear from bourgeous Tv's and Newspapers.
Btw; I simply love this clown and his show. It is hilarious!!!!! :lol: Do you ever watch it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0MlpkpDVR4

As I said, if you think my News are biased, feel free to balance them with you own writing. A perspective from a real Colombian is always welcome.

Cheers :)

agnixie
7th July 2011, 18:34
You know, subtle propagandists let the text work for them if they want to pretend to be neutral. They don't shamelessly bold what they're hoping the reader will pay attention to more.

Obs
8th July 2011, 01:22
Guys, guys, before you get ahead of yourselves, let's just remember that this entire discussion sprang from this post:


Wanna bet some of the mercs are from FARC?

And you're lending waaaay too much credence to this idiocy by letting that much text about a fairly unrelated topic clog the thread.

No, FARC is obviously not fighting on NATOs side in this, because that would make no goddamn sense. Furthermore, Syd, it would be absolutely dandy if you'd make a post that wasn't a stupid, ill-thought-out sectarian jab at "Stalinists".