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Nothing Human Is Alien
6th July 2011, 22:24
At the 3rd Congress of the Comintern, the Theses on Methods and Forms of Work Among Women declared:


"The capitalist economic system has reached a dead end: the is no room for the further development of the productive forces."

Without getting too deep into the question of the decadence of capitalism, I have to wonder what those who "uphold" the 3rd Congress, "Leninism," etc., have to say about this.

Do you believe the productive forces did not develop after 1921? If so, why? If not, what do you think lead the Congress to come to this conclusion?

Paulappaul
7th July 2011, 04:48
I wouldn't make the 3rd Congress and "Leninism" synonymous with each other for one.

Regardless, I am critical on the theory of Capitalist Decadence. Particulary when in 1921, only 3 years after World War 1 which consisted in the total annihilation of the productive forces of Europe it wouldn't make sense that Capitalism couldn't develop the productive forces. If the Theses was given, say in the late 30s, around the time when the productive forces were really developed as a prelude to World War 2, I think it would be a bit more viable.

I think alot of these abstract formulas and theories on Capitalist Decadence are without any real material grounds. They are usually general observations, and typically with Europeans they never look outside Europe.

Paulappaul
7th July 2011, 05:36
This article by the ICC actually discusses this Congress and Capitalist Decadence,

Link (http://en.internationalism.org/ir/145/decadence-09-luxemburgism-1924)

Nothing Human Is Alien
7th July 2011, 21:55
This article by the ICC actually discusses this Congress and Capitalist Decadence,

Link (http://en.internationalism.org/ir/145/decadence-09-luxemburgism-1924)

I've read that before. As I said though, I'm not as interested in a discussion of "decadence" in this thread as wondering how and why those who "uphold" the Congress do.