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Ilyich
5th July 2011, 16:04
Clearly, no one who attempts to occupy such an undemocratic position as the Presidency of the United States can truly represent the working class. Third party candidates, however, run not to win but to raise awareness of his/her cause. What does everybody think about Stewart Alexander? He is not at all ideal, but he seems to be the best candidate so far.
I don't like him enough to vote for him, I think we should wait to find a good candidate.
Sensible Socialist
5th July 2011, 18:43
From a brief seach about him, I don't see too many problems. He might not be the flag-waiving revolutionary we're all hoping for, but in terms of American politics, he's the best horse in a sloppy field.
Mac, is there anything specificially wrong with his platform that would cause you not to vote for him?
wunderbar
5th July 2011, 18:59
I couldn't find a lot of info about him, what specifically is good and bad?
Ocean Seal
5th July 2011, 19:19
The fact that he might have the Green Party nomination makes him all the more interesting. If he does get the support of a mainline third-party we could really see some changes. Social democrats are far better than the other two tired options.
Ilyich
5th July 2011, 20:14
The fact that he might have the Green Party nomination makes him all the more interesting. If he does get the support of a mainline third-party we could really see some changes. Social democrats are far better than the other two tired options.
Actually, he dropped out of the Green Party race in early July. Kent Mesplay is the likely nominee there.
Rusty Shackleford
5th July 2011, 20:43
Stewart Alexander (SP-USA), Carlos Alvarez (PSL), and Mohammad Arifi (SP-USA) were in the primaries on the PFP ticket for governor of california last election.
Well, it's just his peculiar history that I thought was strange at first. I don't know too much about him, so maybe he is a good candidate.
Sensible Socialist
6th July 2011, 06:31
He seems to be past the social-democrat types that masquerade as allies under the banner of socialism, which is surely a start. He mentions workers control of the means of production, instead of sappy language about nationalization. It is something to follow, at the very least.
Sam Varriano
11th July 2011, 02:07
I added him on facebook, he is really nice and told me he thinks that the hammer and sickle is a good symbol in terms of representing the working class, I honestly might vote for him
Johnny Panic
20th July 2011, 14:37
He seems to be a genuine, intelligent, candidate of principle.
His ideas are smart, and would effect change that would help the 98% of people forgotten by the corporate democrats so of course he has no shot
But he has done something that has never been done before securing the nomination of three parties (socialist, Green, and Peace) a leftist coalition may be the best shot
Now if only we could get the corporate unions behind him, we could make some changes He is way more a friend of labor than Obama
But even the further left wont defect, Code Pink has a protest song that actually says "we will vote for you in 2012 what else can we do"
Zeus the Moose
20th July 2011, 16:06
I'm not too enthused about Stewart. As a campaigner I don't know how well he'd do; when he was the vice-presidential candidate for the SP in 2008, he barely left southern California on any sort of campaigning. Maybe that was a fault of the SP not providing enough venues, but it's a question mark at the very least. Also, he didn't take himself off the PFP presidential primary that year as he was supposed to. His logic for doing so was that he'd be more recognised in California, so the combined Moore/Alexander total would reflect the true SP-USA total in that primary, but nevertheless he went against the rules that were put in place for the presidential ticket at the time.
As far as 2012 goes, I was very sceptical of his decision to go for the Green nomination as well, because on the off chance it was successful, there'd be pressure on the part of the Greens for him to run a non-socialist campaign, which would cause major problems in the SP-USA (at least I hope it would, but it's hard to tell with some of our leaders.) His politics aren't as left as I originally thought they were too (for the record, I supported him for president back in the 2007 SP convention.)
In the Socialist Party convention race, right now I'm supporting Jerry Levy. I consider him to be a much better candidate politically, and he also does this: http://www.levyarts.com/ It's a bit gimmicky, but I like the idea of running Karl Marx for president :D
chegitz guevara
20th July 2011, 17:02
I will oppose him at the convention, and will not support him if he wins the nomination from the Party.
Pandering to Democrats, such as the current male co-chair does, is horrible enough. Alexander panders to the GOP with idiot proclamations like socialists oppose unemployment and writing how we need to fix the debt crisis and not raise the debt ceiling.
wunderbar
22nd July 2011, 03:49
I will oppose him at the convention, and will not support him if he wins the nomination from the Party.
Is anyone else running for the nomination?
Reznov
22nd July 2011, 04:06
I don't like him enough to vote for him, I think we should wait to find a good candidate.
This guy is probably the best your gonna get.
Gormanilius
22nd July 2011, 15:26
I will oppose him at the convention, and will not support him if he wins the nomination from the Party.
Pandering to Democrats, such as the current male co-chair does, is horrible enough. Alexander panders to the GOP with idiot proclamations like socialists oppose unemployment and writing how we need to fix the debt crisis and not raise the debt ceiling.
I am interested in knowing why you think Billy Wharton is pandering to Democrats. A link or quote or something would help ^_^ But that aside, I am aware he was the author of an article expressing how Obama was not a socialist, but he himself was. Here is a quote from it:
"The funny thing is, of course, that socialists know that Barack Obama is not one of us. Not only is he not a socialist, he may in fact not even be a liberal. Socialists understand him more as a hedge-fund Democrat -- one of a generation of neoliberal politicians firmly committed to free-market policies."
I just tried posting the link, however this is my third post so I am unable to. So for those looking for the article, search "Obama's not a socialist, I should know"
Johnny Panic
27th July 2011, 18:01
I love that e wants Kucinich as Secretary of Defense
Johnny Panic
27th July 2011, 18:02
I want Noam Chomsky but I don't see much chance of it hapening
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