Brainstorm
1st July 2011, 22:19
On the fascist forum where I usually hang around, a lot of people didn't like my corporative program. They claimed that it was to democratic and to complex, even though it looks a lot like corporatism as practiced in Fascist Italy and Fascist Portugal. (I have studied this a lot) Well, and since corporatism obviously is a cornerstone in my beliefs, I got somewhat angry, and a heated round of "flaming" with me against the rest, followed.
One of them even suggested that I should start writing here instead, since I - according to him, obviously is a socialist. This made me somewhat uncertain about my beliefs, so after some thinking I decided to actually take my thoughts and my program here, since you people are the experts on socialism.
To begin with, the corporative program was a article in a magazine, but I thought it was better to make a drawing of the system I imagine, in order to make things a bit easier.
This is the drawing:
bildr.no/view/919046 (Add the http-thing your self, I was not allowed to post links)
As you can see, I have added some new ideas to the established world of corporatism. One of them is to add enviromentalist representation to the corporations, another one is to create expert-groups with formal rights that approve tax and foreign-policy programs.
The way I imagine it, corporatism will be the bureaucratic work-horse so to say, that not only functions as a engine of class-collaboration, but also takes care of the details of politics, so that the generals, the ministers and the "big man" - the head of state - gets the time they need to be strong role-models for the nation. This is specially essential to the head of state, that at all times must have the energy and the propaganda-apparatus necessary to dominate the public. In order to strengthen regime-stability, it is important to not change leader to often, and a leader that is not stressed with details and long work-days can easily last for 40-50 years if he starts out young.
Other than corporatism, my general view is that a nation must have a strong army, but that imperialism is negative due to the awesome strength and destructive powers of modern weaponry. I also believe that it is very bad to impose democracy on other nations through war, such as we in Europe and the US do today. Instead, dictatorships should support each other despite ideological differences. Therefore, my country (if it turns fascist) should support Libya, Belarus, China, Cuba, and perhaps Venezuela. If a fascist takeover should happen, it would also be very important to build a strong army fast, as NATO and the EU will be very unhappy with the situation and start plotting against the new regime.
My views on economy is that the free-market should be maintained, but that centralized and fair negotiations in the fields of wages and labor-rights is important. The standard working-day should under normal circumstances be eight hours, the general standard that was created by social democrats and fascist regimes alike during the 1920s and 1930s. - With off course, the possibility of working overtime with extra pay. I am also positive to state-ownership over natural resources, and the machinery that harvest it (wood, oil, ore, and so on) since it is pretty simple to do so, and because it gives a stable income that helps reduce taxes.
In the field of media, I am opposed to any form of freedom at all, it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that only healthy and good values are presented on the internet, TV, and newspapers. Government propaganda should be rather simple, and it should increase the self-esteem and mental strength of the nation, as well as encouraging everyone to stay in good physichal shape, less drinking and smoking and so on. If sucessfull, these products can at some point be banned, since almost nobody will use them any more. In the field of physical training, I am off course very much in favor of public gym.
On racism, I am against it - but in order to increase regime-stability (And I want fascism to last for a thousand years, at least) immigration should be stopped. The rightwing liberals and big company owners will hate it because they lose the flow of poor and humble third-world workers that they can exploit, but this matters little to me. Even if some products become more expensive, or if the effect on the economy are somewhat negative in the short run, it will be worth it. Immigrants with passports and papers in order, should be allowed to stay.
When it comes to the established political parties, a special branch of the police must be organized to handle them. All parties except the fascist party must be dissolved, and the leaders of these parties must be exiled, perhaps to some big island of the mainland, where helicopters drop down food and clothes every now and then. When it comes to the corporative system that is built up in order to take over the functions of parliament, I am a bit uncertain about how free it should be. In Italy, known communists where blocked from participation within the corporations, even if their unions elected them. When politically suspect people where elected (people who where not suspect enough to be in prison, and therefore had jobs), the ministry of corporations simply asked the union to elect somebody else. Even though such limitations are sub-optimal, I think they may be a necessary evil during the first 20-30 years of fascism. It is after all, it is important that corporate meetings are not disturbed by people who scream up about democracy and other things that are outside the functions of the corporations. - This will only steal time and energy from the others.
On religion, I have come to the conclusion that it is very good to be conservative. It seems to be a general trend, that the most conservative fascist regimes took the right steps in foreign policy, Dolfuss in Austria even took a bold stance against Hitler - something that got him killed. Public media must support the religion of the state, in the long run turning everyone into good Christians. (I my self will need some working here, as I have not been to church for the last year or so)
So my question to you guys is as following:
1) Is this socialism, or not?
2) Do you like my corporative program? Is it something that fits better with socialism than fascism?
If this is indeed socialism, and if you do like my corporative program, then... Well, then I should join you guys. I already share some common leftist views on foreign policy (I am a proud supported of colonel Gadaffi:-) and economics (labor rights, each nation`s right to decide its own policies, state-ownership of natural resources, a.s.o) so me going through a change from "far-right" to "far-left" depends very much on your answers.
Looking forward to reading your replies:-)
One of them even suggested that I should start writing here instead, since I - according to him, obviously is a socialist. This made me somewhat uncertain about my beliefs, so after some thinking I decided to actually take my thoughts and my program here, since you people are the experts on socialism.
To begin with, the corporative program was a article in a magazine, but I thought it was better to make a drawing of the system I imagine, in order to make things a bit easier.
This is the drawing:
bildr.no/view/919046 (Add the http-thing your self, I was not allowed to post links)
As you can see, I have added some new ideas to the established world of corporatism. One of them is to add enviromentalist representation to the corporations, another one is to create expert-groups with formal rights that approve tax and foreign-policy programs.
The way I imagine it, corporatism will be the bureaucratic work-horse so to say, that not only functions as a engine of class-collaboration, but also takes care of the details of politics, so that the generals, the ministers and the "big man" - the head of state - gets the time they need to be strong role-models for the nation. This is specially essential to the head of state, that at all times must have the energy and the propaganda-apparatus necessary to dominate the public. In order to strengthen regime-stability, it is important to not change leader to often, and a leader that is not stressed with details and long work-days can easily last for 40-50 years if he starts out young.
Other than corporatism, my general view is that a nation must have a strong army, but that imperialism is negative due to the awesome strength and destructive powers of modern weaponry. I also believe that it is very bad to impose democracy on other nations through war, such as we in Europe and the US do today. Instead, dictatorships should support each other despite ideological differences. Therefore, my country (if it turns fascist) should support Libya, Belarus, China, Cuba, and perhaps Venezuela. If a fascist takeover should happen, it would also be very important to build a strong army fast, as NATO and the EU will be very unhappy with the situation and start plotting against the new regime.
My views on economy is that the free-market should be maintained, but that centralized and fair negotiations in the fields of wages and labor-rights is important. The standard working-day should under normal circumstances be eight hours, the general standard that was created by social democrats and fascist regimes alike during the 1920s and 1930s. - With off course, the possibility of working overtime with extra pay. I am also positive to state-ownership over natural resources, and the machinery that harvest it (wood, oil, ore, and so on) since it is pretty simple to do so, and because it gives a stable income that helps reduce taxes.
In the field of media, I am opposed to any form of freedom at all, it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that only healthy and good values are presented on the internet, TV, and newspapers. Government propaganda should be rather simple, and it should increase the self-esteem and mental strength of the nation, as well as encouraging everyone to stay in good physichal shape, less drinking and smoking and so on. If sucessfull, these products can at some point be banned, since almost nobody will use them any more. In the field of physical training, I am off course very much in favor of public gym.
On racism, I am against it - but in order to increase regime-stability (And I want fascism to last for a thousand years, at least) immigration should be stopped. The rightwing liberals and big company owners will hate it because they lose the flow of poor and humble third-world workers that they can exploit, but this matters little to me. Even if some products become more expensive, or if the effect on the economy are somewhat negative in the short run, it will be worth it. Immigrants with passports and papers in order, should be allowed to stay.
When it comes to the established political parties, a special branch of the police must be organized to handle them. All parties except the fascist party must be dissolved, and the leaders of these parties must be exiled, perhaps to some big island of the mainland, where helicopters drop down food and clothes every now and then. When it comes to the corporative system that is built up in order to take over the functions of parliament, I am a bit uncertain about how free it should be. In Italy, known communists where blocked from participation within the corporations, even if their unions elected them. When politically suspect people where elected (people who where not suspect enough to be in prison, and therefore had jobs), the ministry of corporations simply asked the union to elect somebody else. Even though such limitations are sub-optimal, I think they may be a necessary evil during the first 20-30 years of fascism. It is after all, it is important that corporate meetings are not disturbed by people who scream up about democracy and other things that are outside the functions of the corporations. - This will only steal time and energy from the others.
On religion, I have come to the conclusion that it is very good to be conservative. It seems to be a general trend, that the most conservative fascist regimes took the right steps in foreign policy, Dolfuss in Austria even took a bold stance against Hitler - something that got him killed. Public media must support the religion of the state, in the long run turning everyone into good Christians. (I my self will need some working here, as I have not been to church for the last year or so)
So my question to you guys is as following:
1) Is this socialism, or not?
2) Do you like my corporative program? Is it something that fits better with socialism than fascism?
If this is indeed socialism, and if you do like my corporative program, then... Well, then I should join you guys. I already share some common leftist views on foreign policy (I am a proud supported of colonel Gadaffi:-) and economics (labor rights, each nation`s right to decide its own policies, state-ownership of natural resources, a.s.o) so me going through a change from "far-right" to "far-left" depends very much on your answers.
Looking forward to reading your replies:-)