On the CCP's 90th birthday and its Corruption

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=137545861&m=137545838

EDIT-the title should be a shorter version of-"CCP celebrates its 90th birthday while the Chinese people complain about corruption" For some reason this posted before I was done typing it up (I seem to have hit enter)

Anyhow, the sound clip has common Chinese folks who have had their houses demolished etc complaining about how removed the Chinese "Communist" Party is from Socialist values, and how corrupt it has become. Hu Jintao even mentioned corruption in his speech, but I haven't heard of any programs to counter the systemic cause of the corruption-certain capitalist features of its economy and its distribution of political power.

[Crux]

Massive Hong Kong protest spoils Beijing’s birthday party (http://www.chinaworker.info/en/content/news/1498/)
There will be a longer report from the Hong Kong protests later.There is also a new article series in Socialist magazine, the paper of Socialist Action in Hong Kong and the CWI supporters in China, on the latest unrest:
Is China facing a summer of discontent? (http://www.chinaworker.tk/en/content/news/1496/)


As the article notes, the second part will deal more indepth whit the CCP.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Massive Hong Kong protest spoils Beijing’s birthday party (http://www.chinaworker.info/en/content/news/1498/)
There will be a longer report from the Hong Kong protests later.There is also a new article series in Socialist magazine, the paper of Socialist Action in Hong Kong and the CWI supporters in China, on the latest unrest:
Is China facing a summer of discontent? (http://www.chinaworker.tk/en/content/news/1496/)


As the article notes, the second part will deal more indepth whit the CCP.

Interesting-I wonder what the "Anti-Imperialists" make of real worker's discontent in China? Better yet, what do the obnoxious Dengists make of Chinese workers complaining about the lack of a real Communist mentality by the party?


I'm interested to see whether or not minorities will be able to find common cause with the workers, or whether the differences in language and nationality could prevent them from uniting. It seems the party has played divide and rule in the past. Traditionally, the CCP has argued that ethnic minorities are being whipped up from abroad, and that there's no legitimacy to their demands.

[Rusty Shackleford]

cheers to 90 years no matter how far right it has turned. yeah, i said it.

[danyboy27]

cheers to 90 years no matter how far right it has turned. yeah, i said it.

are you serious?

[Rusty Shackleford]

are you serious?

its got some incredible history. and some not so awesome history.

[danyboy27]

its got some incredible history. and some not so palpable history.

if anything the communist party of china should be mourned

[Rusty Shackleford]

if anything the communist party of china should be mourned
I do mourn the loss of Marxist-Leninist Mao Tse Tung thought within the leadership of the party. I do.

Just like i mourn the clusterfuck of the CPRF's leadership.

[danyboy27]

I do mourn the loss of Marxist-Leninist Mao Tse Tung thought within the leadership of the party. I do.

Just like i mourn the clusterfuck of the CPRF's leadership.

mourn the party man, beccause the communist party of china is dead.
they dont stand for the working class anymore.

[Broletariat]

mourn the party man, beccause the communist party of china is dead.
they dont stand for the working class anymore.

They never did, they stood for four classes actually.

[Jose Gracchus]

Can bourgeois openly join the CPC now, like in the Workers' Party of Vietnam?

[Rusty Shackleford]

Can bourgeois openly join the CPC now, like in the Workers' Party of Vietnam?
since it operated on a whole "bloc of four classes" basis during the revolution, it did have support of nationalist members of the bourgeoisie and petit-bourgeoisie.


i dont know if you can join if you are a capitalist. but i wouldnt be wholly surprised either.

[Martin Blank]

Can bourgeois openly join the CPC now, like in the Workers' Party of Vietnam?

Yeah, they did that years ago, IIRC.

[Sun at Eight]

Yeah, it was a switch in, IIRC, 2001 or 2002 in terms of open admission of capitalists.

[RichardAWilson]

Congratulations to the CCP. However, there's nothing Socialist remaining: China has become a Dictatorship that has embraced State Capitalism.

With that said: the so-called Chinese Communist Party was nothing more than the lesser of two evils (Nationalism vs. Maoism) during a unique historical period.

[Crux]

A longer report from the Hong Kong march:
Hong Kong: Over 200,000 march for democracy and against property tycoons (http://www.chinaworker.info/en/content/news/1500/)

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

I like Hu Jintao's empty warnings about corruption threatening and delegitimizing the party. Did he bother to mention the Capitalist policies which are the heart of the corruption?

[Jose Gracchus]

Local "activists" had parties where they toasted the birthday of this "workers' party".

[A Marxist Historian]

I like Hu Jintao's empty warnings about corruption threatening and delegitimizing the party. Did he bother to mention the Capitalist policies which are the heart of the corruption?

I read the whole bloody much-too-long speech. Pure Bukharinism, with continual claims about what orthodox Marxist he is. He was a professor of Marxist philosophy before his helicopter ascent to being the second most powerful person on planet Earth.

He defended the pro-capitalist policies as necessary to develop the productive forces of China, it being a backward country and all.

But now, he says, it's time to raise the standard of living "moderately" and start bringing in socialized medicine and such. We'll see.

He sounded moderately serious about fighting corruption, but if that reaches people around *him,* no doubt it will be a very different story.

-M.H.-