Say one thing nice about each tendency

[The Man]

We had a thread like this before, but I couldn't find it.

So copy and paste this, and say one nice thing (In a few words) about each tendency:

Anarchism:
Left Communism:
Marxism (Non-Leninism):
Marxism-Leninism:
Maoism:
Trotskyism:
Non-doctrinaire Communism:

[Hebrew Hammer]

Anarchists: you're people I could drink with.
Left Communism: my smoking chums.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): keep me on my toes.
Marxism-Leninism: bestiesssszzzzz.
Maoism: genius in action.
Trotskyism: you guys aren't so bad.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: always neat shit coming from you folks.
Libertarian Socialism: I dig subcomandante Marcos and you guys are pretty groovy too.

[Blackscare]

Anarchism: Generally the most ethical among us. I think cripplingly so, but this is a 'nice' thread.
Left Communism: Certainly have it right when it comes down to the mechanisms that will need to be at work for first world revolution to occur. They get a bad rap because a realistic view of events is necessarily grim. You can't "build" revolution, at least not until material conditions and crisis allow for it.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): What is there to say, I don't believe any other school of thought has been able to frame the mechanics of human history as clearly. I often argue to people that, regardless of whether you are "right" or "left", everyone should be a Marxist, in the sense that they look at the world through a materialist lens and come to their own conclusions.
Marxism-Leninism: They do have dedication to the construction of a worker's vanguard, even if I personally am coming to believe that this is doomed.
Maoism: You can't deny that Maoists are probably the most effective and prolific practitioners of revolutionary armed struggle. I have my doubts about their leadership once victory is achieved, but you can't doubt that worldwide they prove themselves to be extremely brave.
Trotskyism: They certainly emphasize sticking by their principles, even if they can't agree on what they are.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: It's much more sensible to be non-doctrinaire than anything else, IMO, the next revolution will not be an instant where some past "ism" is taken out of mothballs and applied in the way that it's dogmatic followers believe. The next communism will be something entirely new, even if it (rightly) learns from the past.
Libertarian Socialism: This is sort of a non-tendency, it's mostly just something that anarchists call marxists they can tolerate.

[Manic Impressive]

Anarchism: I'm down with zero hierarchy
Left Communism: good stance on imperialism
Marxism (Non-Leninism): we rock those of us who are not impossiblists
Marxism-Leninism: You guys make Blanquism look good. That takes talent
Maoism: Best Slogans : change comes through the barrel of a gun = Win
Trotskyism: you are marxist leninists. I'm sure you'll take that as a compliment
Non-doctrinaire Communism: this is a stupid option because we have no doctrine and all think different things
Libertarian Socialism: er Marxism (non Leninism) same thing

[ComradeGrant]

Anarchism: Been calling myself an anarchist more and more. Good ideals and less to deal with historically.
Left Communism: Probably the most interesting ideas of the socialist left. All to often ignored in my view.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): I have to say there needs to be more of you.
Marxism-Leninism: While I disagree with what you do, you are certainly dedicated to it and I would still work with you.
Maoism: The coolest slogans and pictures come from you guys.
Trotskyism: Every leftist I've ever met outside of Revleft has either been an Anarchist or a Trotskyist. I honestly hate how some M-Ls treat you and the pejorative Trotskyite bugs me.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: I would call myself this if I didn't like other names so much.
Libertarian Socialism: I use this term to describe myself when I don't feel like explaining the difference between Anarchism and chaos. Confuses the hell out of Right Libertarians which I love.

[Sentinel]

I suppose we aren't meant to add the '..but' ie negative parts so I didn't.

Anarchism: Wide spectrum of people to judge as one, but if we are talking about class war anarchism: people that have their heart in the right place mostly. History shows that it can at least temporarily work at some occasions too
Left Communism: The ideology has many good points and also has many very smart people adhering to it
Marxism (Non-Leninism): Got to think about that one
Marxism-Leninism: If this means stalinism, well my mother was one when I was a kid and I turned out alright, didn't I?
Maoism: Fucking hard, but yeah there are some people I respect that are maoists..
Trotskyism: The optimal form of leftism, obviously, except those sectarians that don't belong to my organisation :lol:
Non-doctrinaire Communism: Depends what is meant with is
Libertarian Socialism: Same as anarchism

[Johnny Kerosene]

Anarchism: I don't get shit from Anarchists for doing things that are fun but bad for me
Left Communism:I can't really say I know too much about Left Communism, which means that I haven't heard anything bad.
Marxism (Non-Leninism):I started out as a Marxist, and they provide the base for a lot of the other communist theories
Marxism-Leninism:Lenin's a pretty cool guy, and a lot of M-Ls on RevLeft know their shit better than most
Maoism: Like other people said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." and Mao Jackets are fucking awesome
Trotskyism: I like the idea a simultaneous world revolution, and, again as someone else said, most of you face unfair discrimination from most other leftists.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: Pretty chill, as long as it's communism, it's all good. Not being picky is good.

[Dumb]

Before I get into specifics, I first want to issue this blanket compliment to all the tendencies: y'all are on the right side, and I'd take any of you over...*shudders*...social democracy. ;)

Anarchism: I'm most able to communicate leftist ideas to conservatives and "mainstream" political types when I wear my figurative anarchist thinking cap. Nobody really likes the government in the U.S., and anarchism provides me with a framework with which to criticize the state from a leftist perspective.

Left Communism: They made strong points about the bureaucratization of the Soviet Union.

Marxism (Non-Leninism): Marx provides the most scientific framework I know of to understand economics. (In contrast, classical economics textbooks would be more honest to start by saying, "Let's just make up a planet...").

Marxism-Leninism: The Russian Revolution was truly an amazing feat, IMO the most significant event of the 20th century.

Maoism: Had the courage to tackle the toughest problem that faced Marxists in the 20th century - what to do regarding the peasantry?

Trotskyism: My Mentor in Communism is (was? :crying: ) a Trotskyist, so I've always had a soft spot for this tendency. Trotsky's defense of proletarian internationalism is essential.

Non-doctrinaire Communism: They tend to keep sight of the fact that it doesn't matter if we're Maoists or Leninists or Anarchists; no, what matters is that we are not social democrats.

[¿Que?]

Anarchism: I like when you bring the motherfucking ruckus.

Left Communism: Ah, voting's a waste of time anyway.

Marxism (Non-Leninism): Were it all started. Much love and respect!

Marxism-Leninism: Hey, I'm no theorist either :)

Maoism: Holdin' it down for armed struggle! Respect!

Trotskyism: The first communist meeting I ever attended was Trots.

Non-doctrinaire Communism: I can appreciate your lack of commitment.

[coda]

Anarchists: Personally, I would stand in a trench with you and light molotov cocktails all night or til the end of time...
Left Communism: I think you would be with us above
Marxism (Non-Leninism): Marx wrote it down.. what more can you say
Marxism-Leninism: Lenin, from written word to reality
Maoism: Not bad, not bad...
Trotskyism: You deserved to be next!
Non-doctrinaire Communism: you'll join somebody soon!
Libertarian Socialism: We A's, are with you!

[wunderbar]

Anarchism: Anarcho-Syndicalism and Anarcho-Communism are two of my favorite tendencies (sub-tendencies?)
Left Communism: Sometimes they seem to be one of the most principled of the tendencies.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): The basis for all the other Marxist-derived tendencies.
Marxism-Leninism: You're alright, and the M-L's I've met in person are some of the most dedicated leftists I've seen.
Maoism: I'd love to get me a Mao suit.
Trotskyism: I love how wildly varied Trotskyist groups can be, from ISO and SWP, Socialist Action and Socialist Organizer, to SEP and the Sparts.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: Every other tendency (my own included) could learn some things from this group.
Libertarian Socialism: My favorite.

[ZeroNowhere]

Anarchism: They're not left communists.
Left Communism: They're not Marxist-Leninists.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): They're dashing chaps.
Marxism-Leninism: They're not Maoists.
Maoism: They're not Trots.
Trotskyism: They're not non-doctrinaire communists.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: They're not 'libertarian socialists'.
Libertarian Socialism: They're not anarchists.

Wait a minute.

[bcbm]

no

[ZeroNowhere]

In any case, these kind of threads seem to come up every couple of days, and to be honest they get a bit grating. I'm not sure why people find it so fascinating to read through a bunch of Revlefters mildly praising (or 'subtly' insulting) a bunch of tendencies.

[Kamos]

Just another sectarian shitfest.

[scarletghoul]

These are all serious answers btw.

Anarchism: It is important to uphold the idea of complete freedom and equality.. in this sense Anarchism is an integral part of communism in general, and I think that without the insistence of anarchism making the means the same as the ends (that is, classless statelessness nonheirarchy) our movement would lose all romance and purpose. When the means are completely alienated from the end, the end itself becomes lost. So yeah I think every communist is an anarchism of some kind..
Left Communism: luxembergs criticisms of lenin were sometimes pretty cool
Marxism (Non-Leninism): not sure what this means but marxism is cool
Marxism-Leninism: thanks for saving the world back in the 1940s
Maoism: so fucking awesome. someone here once said "maoism is like marxism-leninism on cocaine"
Trotskyism: uhm well its true the ussr degerated obviously i guess
Non-doctrinaire Communism: communism wooo

Also thanks OP for not including Hoxhaism on the list :] would have been awkward

[Sam_b]

Why?

[Angry Young Man]

Anarchism: has the best music
Left Communism: always seems to have the brightest buttons on here. Speaking of which, what ever came of Rosa Lichtenstein?
Marxism (Non-Leninism): Awww yeeeeaaaah!
Marxism-Leninism: You have to be clever to argue for something that fallacious
Maoism: They always call their cats Chairman Miaow. Unless they're really clever and call him Mousey Tongue.
Trotskyism: see Marxism
Non-doctrinaire Communism: say what?

[Kamos]

Why?

You asking me? Because if yes, here is why. Few people really like (or can say good things about) all tendencies and many people are always eager to bash some of them. So they'll just come here and drop some veiled insults masked as nice things to get their point across. It's just a matter of time until someone takes the trollbait and then the sectarian wars ensue once again.

Or are you asking Zenga? Well, here's the other part, the OP chose a few tendencies while leaving out others. Those who feel left out will surely complain as well.

Let's just scuttle this one.

[Angry Young Man]

(this bit is to make it so it can be capitalised)

KRONSTADT!!!!!

[NoOneIsIllegal]

luxembergs criticisms of lenin were sometimes pretty cool
"sometimes pretty cool" means completely justifiable, right? Yeah, let's go with that.

[Kamos]

It has begun!

[NoOneIsIllegal]

it has begun!
mooorttall kooombaaattt!

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Left Communism: always seems to have the brightest buttons on here. Speaking of which, what ever came of Rosa Lichtenstein?
Banned several months ago. Let's not discuss it here, if you have questions just browse the Members forum.

[ZeroNowhere]

(this bit is to make it so it can be capitalised)

KRONSTADT!!!!!

Kronstadt was entirely justified, and a wholly deserved punishment upon the Kronstadt workers for repudiating the Bolshevik Party which had given them power over Russia.

[Angry Young Man]

Now, it starts =]

[The Man]

Or are you asking Zenga? Well, here's the other part, the OP chose a few tendencies while leaving out others. Those who feel left out will surely complain as well.

What tendencies am I missing out on?

[Kuppo Shakur]

Anarchism: Black goes with everything.
Left Communism: As opposed to right communism.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): Don't go all Stalin on everyone.
Marxism-Leninism: Go all Stalin on everyone.
Maoism: Usually the most serious.
Trotskyism: N/A
Non-doctrinaire Communism: Have all the advantages listed above.:cool:

[Red Future]

Anarchism:Huge respect for groups like ANTIFA and also the commitment of Anarchists to the class struggle actively.
Left Communism: Never really had much contact with them but they seem Ok.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): Nothing bad about reading and studying Marx -many posters like this are also very good with Theoretical issues.
Marxism-Leninism: Determined and Unflinching Vanguardists
Maoism: Seems to be successful at the moment, there is no denying that.I also have a huge amount of respect for Mao.
Trotskyism: Really perceptive analysis of issues .. when I want a Marxist analysis of an issue I usually turn to a Trot website.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: Most accessible tendency.

[flobdob]

Anarchism: Often do a lot of great work in support of low paid/migrant workers, and no-borders stuff. Support!
Left Communism: I like Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution. Plus Paul Mattick really understood crisis theory
Marxism (Non-Leninism): Pleasant enough...
Marxism-Leninism: Badasses, sheer badasses.
Maoism: Pretty chill on a lot of things, doing some great work in Asia right now.
Trotskyism: WSWS puts out some great stuff on the Labour Party and sometimes ok at popularising parts of Marxism.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: Monthly Review is one of the best journals out there.

[Taikand]

A communist society bringing the best of every tendency (based on stereotypes):
Anarchism:These guys bring the booze and the music.
Left Communism: These guys are actual workers.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): These guys bring the books.
Marxism-Leninism: These guys bring the organization.
Maoism: These guys bring the guns.
Trotskyism: These guys bring the newspaper.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: These guys laugh of everyone else.

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

Anarchism: An Ideology that allows for the self-emancipation and liberation of the Proletariat and directly attempts to achieve Communism without the need of a transitional society in order to overcome the former existing social structures of Bourgeois Society; However this is a positive thread. Generally are inclined to be ethical in nature Post-Revolution relating to the transformation of these social structures, are versatile in methods of action in order to obtain preconditions in order to lead forth Proletarian emancipation and are friendly fellows.

Marxism (Non-Leninism): Analyze the existing social relations that capitalism is based upon and are through this seeking to emancipate the Proletariat through the theoretical works of Marx and Engels; Generally are realists and genuinely seek to bring about Proletarian emancipation.

Marxism-Leninism: Realists; Vanguard Party is capable of being a useful tool in order to bring about the Dictatorship of the Proletariat under the correct leadership and in order to maintain the course of the Revolution and ensure the cementing of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.

Maoism: Allows for the exploited Rural Proletariat to be focused upon; As well, Maoist theories relating to Imperialism and People's War are wonderful concepts.

Non-doctrinaire Communism: Disregards Great-Manisms in order to focus on the emancipation of the Proletariat and generally is capable of welcoming experimental ideals that are associated with Proletarian emancipation, as opposed to simply being dogmatic.

[W1N5T0N]

Kronstadt was entirely justified, and a wholly deserved punishment upon the Kronstadt workers for repudiating the Bolshevik Party which had given them power over Russia.

the "revolt" of Kronstadt sailors was the truth against the lie.
The people against the state.
The love of freedom against the hate of freedom.
The hate of oppression against the love of power.

It was justified, as the sailors took "all power to the soviets" literally, unlike the bolsheviks.
If you had been there, i'm sure you would have been on the frontline of the red army shouting:
"Death to the Kronstadt Imperialists" or some dumb shit like that.

Kronstadt showed the Bolsheviks were just another form of OPPRESSION.

[Sam_b]

"Death to the Kronstadt Imperialists" or some dumb shit like that.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?


Bolsheviks were just another form of expression

God forbid anyone should express themselves.

[Zanthorus]

If you had been there, i'm sure you would have been on the frontline of the red army shouting:
"Death to the Kronstadt Imperialists" or some dumb shit like that.

It's funny because it's pretty obvious that ZeroNowhere was being sarcastic.

[Obs]

the "revolt" of Kronstadt sailors was the truth against the lie.
The people against the state.
The love of freedom against the hate of freedom.
The hate of oppression against the love of power.
I cannot believe how seriously you take yourself

[Angry Young Man]

He does?? I thought he was trolling to some degree

[MarxSchmarx]

Anarchism: Kick-ass FAQ.
Left Communism: As a humorless tendency, you are actually tongue in cheek about that whole infantile disorder thing.
Marxism (Non-Leninism): What's the point of being right if no one cares?
Marxism-Leninism: You sure like the busts of your leaders
Maoism: One of the few tendencies that has had some success in extricating itself in the modern era from its incredibly bloody, murderous legacy
Trotskyism: Some people call it a grudge that has gone on way too long, but haters be hating and you knows it
Non-doctrinaire Communism: how cute.

[W1N5T0N]

haha okay he was being sarcastic...
sorry but i really took that a bit serious.
(my best excuse is my righteous indignation)

[W1N5T0N]

God forbid anyone should express themselves.

i meant oppression, ftr.

[W1N5T0N]

just so the "more experienced" members can take note:

im pretty new here, and maybe not so used to the whole "sarcastic" thing as others are...no reason to by cynical about it.

Cheers!

[Kuppo Shakur]

just so the "more experienced" members can take note:

im pretty new here, and maybe not so used to the whole "sarcastic" thing as others are...no reason to by cynical about it.

Cheers!
n00b

[W1N5T0N]

:thumbup1:

[Apoi_Viitor]

Left Communism: Most hip.
Marxism-Leninism: Most knowledgeable.
Maoism: Most dedicated.
Non-doctrinaire Communism: I wish there were more of you.

[L.A.P.]

What tendencies am I missing out on?

Um did you forget about your own? You forgot Hoxhaist. You also forgot about DeLeonists, plus you should just put Libertarian Socialist and Anarchist together and no need to split Maoist from Marxist-Leninist.

[The Man]

Um did you forget about your own? You forgot Hoxhaist. You also forgot about DeLeonists, plus you should just put Libertarian Socialist and Anarchist together and no need to split Maoist from Marxist-Leninist.

That's why I differentiated Maoism and Marxism-Leninism. Hoxhaism is under the Marxist-Leninist category. There is a need to split Maoism from Marxism-Leninism, because there are multiple Marxist-Leninists (Including me) who are not in the tendency of 'Mao Tse-Tung Thought'.

This is not an attack on Maoism in anyway. I believe that the Maoists are very dedicated people, and that's why I stand alongside them.

[L.A.P.]

That's why I differentiated Maoism and Marxism-Leninism. Hoxhaism is under the Marxist-Leninist category. There is a need to split Maoism from Marxism-Leninism, because there are multiple Marxist-Leninists (Including me) who are not in the tendency of 'Mao Tse-Tung Thought'.

This is not an attack on Maoism in anyway. I believe that the Maoists are very dedicated people, and that's why I stand alongside them.

Maoism is under the M-L category as well and there is a need to split Hoxhaism from Marxism-Leninism because not all M-Ls are Hoxhaists. This logic fails.

[Hebrew Hammer]

Hoxhaists: really cool comrades, aside from when they verbally jack off about cool Hoxha was or his bunkers but overall, really cool comrades, I'm down with Hoxha.

[ReVoLuTiOnArYbUtGaNgStEr]

Why?

this

[The Man]

Maoism is under the M-L category as well and there is a need to split Hoxhaism from Marxism-Leninism because not all M-Ls are Hoxhaists. This logic fails.

I guess we should take M-L out as a whole because not all M-Ls are Maoists either. So Maoism and Hoxhaism.

[Obs]

Maoism is under the M-L category as well and there is a need to split Hoxhaism from Marxism-Leninism because not all M-Ls are Hoxhaists. This logic fails.
There's no theoretical deviation between "Hoxhaism" and other forms of Marxism-Leninism. There are several between MLs and MLMs, though.

[Red_Struggle]

Trotskyists: They are great for target practice
Left-coms: They're better than democrats
Maoists: Generally dedicated Marxists who are willing to fight, but they hold some theoretical mistakes
Anarchists: Usually the least hesitant to get violent, for better or for worse.
Brezhnevites: They love the color red
"Hoxhaists": Theoretically sound

[Kronsteen]

Hoxhaistists: I don't believe they actually exist. Someone made them up.
Anarchists: They're young, energetic and have great skateboarding skills. Or skillz.
Maoists: They really live their politics. No such thing as a weekend Maoist.
Trotskyists: They're the only ones who can organise a demo.
Marxist-Leninists: They seem to agree with me on everything, while telling me I'm weak on theory.
Stalinists: They write really short, easy to read books.
Liberals: They tolerate absolutely everything. While not approving of any of it.
Zhdanovists: They really really really believe. Mostly they believe in the power of believing.
Vendredists: I just made them up.

[Comrade Crow]

Trotskyists: not fans of icepicks.
Left-Communists: kindred spiritz.
Maoists: cool peeps.
Anarchists: have gone soft, we need more bombs and sexy.
Marxist-Leninists: complain alot.
'Orthodox' Marxists: pretentious but generally 'on the money' as it were.