Fidel

[Mazzen]

What's so bad about Fidel to the Americans? America has always bad-mouthed Fidel for as long as I can remember. What's up with people saying that citizens of Cuba that try to leave are executed?
I remember one time when I was in HS, I was watching a news program that they produce especially for teenagers. They went to Cuba and they were interviewing a guy on the street. He said that they do not have freedom of speech. If this is false and Cubans have a good life(compared to poor, jobless, homeless people of the US), why did a citizen say such a thing. I don't know how he can say that. I would think that if he said that...he'd be executed *should Cuba be the horrible place that the US says it is*. Chau.

[*~Silver-Back~*]

The reality is Cuba is the only country who sits at the edge of America and has snubbed its nose at them for so long for being uninfluenced by the US. Take all of the neighboring countries by the US who are politically, militarily and economically dependent on the US. Notice how most of the regimes in the South American Nations are comprised mostly of Pro-US or US installed regimes? Well when the Revolution occured most of the people who fled the "horrible" revolution were all the rich white/cuban class who for years under the previous regime held acres of land that is quite known for growing huge amounts of sugarcane and so on and had people work as serfs on them. The also blatant reason why Americans hate Castro is because he represents the figure of a movement that successfully worked and developed a third world nation with practically no future into one of the most mature countries with some of the best people graduating and so on and so forth. Plus politically wouldn't it hurt to know that the tiny nation that you once tried to invade kicked you in the face infront of the whole world and continues to toot it's horn at that? Plus it is scary for the US government to know that many countries in South America look up at Cuba and in some ways are trying to copy it by example...lately i read that Venezuela the coup that took place was actually based on the principles of a Castro like take over to kick Chavez as everyone knows as being a US installed puppet for an Anti-US regime. The other reason because many of the generations of Americans who hate Castro are part of the generation that grew up with the HATE COMMUNISM IT IS BAD propaganda. To this date Cuba is the only country where a revolution, independence movement, and anti-us government has successfully survived unlike other Nations in the Eastern Bloc of Europe. I just think the reason why Dubya is tooting the horn for regime change in Cuba is because well he needs a victory that doesn't compromise his election for another term. Unless he accidently wins it and ends up with another WE HAVE WON THE WAR and ends up allowing hundreds of more US soldiers being killed. Plus Cuba is seen as the only Guerilla nation because unlike the US and its neighboring countries it can use guerilla warfare to hit the US should it attack it's soil. Strategically in a military sense a base in Cuba bigger than the one in Guantanamo Bay would allow the US to boost its Naval Power in the Gulf of Mexico and the South American coasts. *phew* too much writing for now..laterz!

[commieboy]

you know who i compare fidel to?

Fidel is like that cool uncle you never see.....

I think the reason America hates him, or atleast Dubaya hates him is because he's prooven the whole american way wrong.....Who cares if not every person in Cuba doesn't have an X-box, or plasma screen TV?
People are happy with what they've got, and i think America is mad at that, the fact that people are still happy, the fact that people still love Fidel, even though they are in "Poverty" but that's only by american standards.

Fidel will always be in cuba, and Cuba will always have fidel....

[FistFullOfSteel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2003, 11:21 PM
What's so bad about Fidel to the Americans? America has always bad-mouthed Fidel for as long as I can remember. What's up with people saying that citizens of Cuba that try to leave are executed?
I remember one time when I was in HS, I was watching a news program that they produce especially for teenagers. They went to Cuba and they were interviewing a guy on the street. He said that they do not have freedom of speech. If this is false and Cubans have a good life(compared to poor, jobless, homeless people of the US), why did a citizen say such a thing. I don't know how he can say that. I would think that if he said that...he'd be executed *should Cuba be the horrible place that the US says it is*. Chau.
i dont think fidel wants cuba bad.

yeah u right..who cares if not all persons in cuba have an x-box or something like that.rich sucks


i have seen some documentaries about this subject:they interviewed some people,some say that the cubans dont have free speech,but some say that they are living good...

hmm....the people that say that they have not free speech and so,maybe they have relatives to ex-cubans who lives in miami. its my thought...

[Comrade Ceausescu]

personally,i am not an advocate of free speech,so i dont care.

[commieboy]

i think i scared the crap out of my civics teacher when we were descusing Fidel...he asked what should happen to the cubans who "Float" to miami...
i said, "They should be sent back to cuba and shot for abandoning the revolution!"

Is this what should happen to the traitors?

[Regicidal Insomniac]

The western mentality is pathetic, especially that of America. Their consumerist culture subordinates real and basic needs to fictitous ones. To have becomes more important than to be; appearance becomes more important than reality. They believe that the right to choose your brand of deorderant is more important than the right to LIVE. They see that Cubans have the right to food, employment, education, and healthcare and insist that a shopping mall is more important than all of this. They see countries like Colombia where 15-20 political murders occur everyday and insist it is somehow more free than Cuba, because they are "free" to choose what murderous corperation they become a slave for.

Pathetic.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

yeah Regicidal Insomniac they are so superficial its sick

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2003, 06:25 AM
personally,i am not an advocate of free speech,so i dont care.
'a guy on the street. He said that they do not have freedom of speech.'

What that guy on the street should have said is 'people like me don't have free speech'.

[Bradyman]

Fidel is the man.

"While America sends its bombs to the corners of the world, we send our doctors and teachers" -Fidel

This quote is probably why the American government has portrayed him as evil. And since the whole Cuban missile crisis, things have just not been good. But Fidel is one of the last great "communist" leaders. The media in America just hypes him up to be very bad. But some democrats, namely Jesse Jackson, has praised Fidel for his work. But it's all about the media

[Y2A]

Castro is portrayed as "evil" because of the fact that he is a dictator and his people are starving. I can understand his cause during the 60's to oust Batista and his militant rule but his people are suffering for his ignorance. The time has come to change. Cuba should be a democratic state. No one party should ever be allowed absolute power.

[marxstudent]

I don't know much about Castro. Are there any recommended books on him?

[*~Silver-Back~*]

uhhh Y2A wrong forum mate.....j/k well actually i think that ppl in America just fear the fact that material wealth isn't all that great as it is...just look at their lifestyle...all about money and entertainment....give back to society what you only need to give to enjoy for yourself as they say....yeesh i'm depressed now. :(

[Faceless]

I read in a Castro bio that early on Fidel made purges agianst several groups including homosexuals. Is this true?

[*~Silver-Back~*]

I don't think so because here look at this site www.ratb.org.uk/
He is asked a question about Gays and he answers...

[Fidelbrand]

Well said~ *~Silver-Back~*

and thumbs up for Jesse Jackson.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by *~Silver-Back~*@Oct 13 2003, 02:48 AM
uhhh Y2A wrong forum mate.....j/k well actually i think that ppl in America just fear the fact that material wealth isn't all that great as it is...just look at their lifestyle...all about money and entertainment....give back to society what you only need to give to enjoy for yourself as they say....yeesh i'm depressed now. :(
Naw I am somewhat of a democratic socialist, not communist though and I do admire Che. But the fact is that no one party can ever have complete power because that leads to corruption. And my personal beliefs about communism is that it can not work because it cuts a nation off from the global economy, the only way that communism would work is if every nation in the world were communist and that will never happen unless you have authoritarian rule over nations which no one wants. And as for the people that advocate revolution, I advocate reform through protest and making your voices heard, once you side with those that pick up guns and plant car bombs you become as wrong as those you are against.