Now, I hate Capitalism as much as the next commie, but

[Broletariat]

It's just so goddamn interesting. Like reading Capital and it's just like O_o really? So, labour subjegates itself? Goddamn that's interesting. Material relations between people and social relations between things? It's all so intriguing.

[Octavian]

I bet little Ming working in a sweatshop in China feels the same.

[Decolonize The Left]

It's just so goddamn interesting. Like reading Capital and it's just like O_o really? So, labour subjegates itself? Goddamn that's interesting. Material relations between people and social relations between things? It's all so intriguing.

Are you high?

- August

[Revolutionair]

Well you have to admit. Capitalism is more complex than rocket science. It is crazy how we somehow ended up with creating this kind of world, with cars taking us everywhere.

And Octavian, I think it is possible to feel that capitalism is undesirable and still be amazed by it. The bourgeoisie really is the most revolutionary ruling class.

For me the reason to oppose capitalism is not for the questions it can answer, but because capitalism cannot answer all questions. People starving will always be a reality if we don't move away from the capitalist mode of production. But it is amazing to see how capitalism answers the questions it can answer, such as increased productivity.

[Property Is Robbery]

Capitalism is more complex than rocket science.
I doubt that

[Octavian]

And Octavian, I think it is possible to feel that capitalism is undesirable and still be amazed by it. The bourgeoisie really is the most revolutionary ruling class.


I know, I was just being an ass. I see where you coming from as communism can only be reached through capitalism.

[Broletariat]

Are you high?

- August

No :/

[Revolutionair]

I doubt that

I don't.

[praxis1966]

Mmmkay... This thread went downhill real fast.

Moved to Chit-Chat.

[scarletghoul]

It's just so goddamn interesting. Like reading Capital and it's just like O_o really? So, labour subjegates itself? Goddamn that's interesting. Material relations between people and social relations between things? It's all so intriguing.
It seems like youre more captivated by the Hegelian dialectical inversions at work in Marx's analysis than anything else. We should credit him for bringing out that profound view of things, when he could easily have left it at the obvious "workers are exploited; capitalism sucks".

[scarletghoul]

capitalism is fascinating in the same way that a high resolution photo of extremely severe infected and colourful genital warts could be fascinating if you look at it closely enough + with a little abstraction

[Fawkes]

It's incredibly interesting. The amazingly complex ways that people and societies evolve and organize themselves is fascinating. The way that oppression intersects and the innumerable minute things that dictate our interactions are amazing, but it's not a novel or movie to be appreciated and analyzed from a distance, it's real. I mean, Nazi Germany is pretty intriguing too....

[ZeroNowhere]

I agree. Capitalism is quite fascinating when analyzed from a communist point of view, both in political economy by itself and taken in a wider philosophical and historical context. Of course, if it is abolished more people will be free to study it in this light, devoid of the illusions immanent in it.

[Rafiq]

Even Marx was fascinated by capitalism. Capitalism isn't a stupid system. It's a fascinating system. think about it, Humans have never lived better.

That doesn't mean it's the best system possible, nor is it humanitys final destination. there are problems that capitalism can't adress that we will fix.

[Rusty Shackleford]

it isnt wrong to think capitalism is fascinating.


it certainly is. it is a relatively new social order. if that isnt interesting. i dont know what is.