IcarusAngel
29th June 2011, 03:57
The Libertarian Sasha Volokh on his blog argued that it would be immoral to tax people to stop an asteroid, regardless of how much damage it would do. But it's also immoral to tell people about it, because that might cause people to panic and thus threaten the rights of the property owners.
Someone at the Mises Institute actually responded to this and agreed with it, even if the asteroid was going to annihilate the human race. See:
http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2011/02/would-anarcho-capitalists-allow-earth.html
(That is a good blog for debunking Austrain economics, just as Ayn Rand contra human nature debunks objectivism.)
This Anarcho-Capitalist/Libertarian movement has a morality/view of the world that is even worse than the Nazis. The Nazis would have never allowed the destruction of the entire human race, although they would have inadvertently done much damage to themselves as well. Of course, if the world blows up there would be no longer any "property," and all capitalist-property has no "true owner" as you can trace most property back to the person who originally stole it (such as the theft of property from the Indians) [1], according to their standards, which prevents other alternatives from posting (see this post (http://www.revleft.com/vb/why-communists-can-t157168/index.html)). The anarcho-capitalist cult should be treated with the same contempt as fascists, imo, and should now be ignored.
All that said, how would competing socialist cooperatives handle the situation? Imagine there is certain spot of land that must be used to destroy an incoming asteroid. What if a well-recognized socialist commune, functioning independently of all others, refused to allow people to use that property.
Would it be ethical to violate their commune and force them off the land? If so, how do you determine when it is ethical to interfere with the rights of another commune, and when it isn't? Couldn't socialism just as easily transform into tribal warfare as anarcho-capitalism since socialists generally haven't outlined a clear set of rights for the commune?
[1]“For central to Nozick’s account is the thesis that all legitimate entitlements can be traced to legitimate acts of original acquisition. But, if that is so, there are in fact very few, and in some large areas of the world no, legitimate entitlements. The property-owners of the modern world are not the legitimate heirs of Lockean individuals who performed quasi-Lockean… acts of original acquisition; they are the inheritors of those who, for example, stole and used violence to steal the common lands of England from the common people, vast tracts of North America from the American Indian, much of Ireland from this Irisih, and Prussia from the original non-German Prussians. This is the historical reality ideologically concealed behind any Lockean thesis.” -- Alasdair MacIntyre, After Virtue
Someone at the Mises Institute actually responded to this and agreed with it, even if the asteroid was going to annihilate the human race. See:
http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2011/02/would-anarcho-capitalists-allow-earth.html
(That is a good blog for debunking Austrain economics, just as Ayn Rand contra human nature debunks objectivism.)
This Anarcho-Capitalist/Libertarian movement has a morality/view of the world that is even worse than the Nazis. The Nazis would have never allowed the destruction of the entire human race, although they would have inadvertently done much damage to themselves as well. Of course, if the world blows up there would be no longer any "property," and all capitalist-property has no "true owner" as you can trace most property back to the person who originally stole it (such as the theft of property from the Indians) [1], according to their standards, which prevents other alternatives from posting (see this post (http://www.revleft.com/vb/why-communists-can-t157168/index.html)). The anarcho-capitalist cult should be treated with the same contempt as fascists, imo, and should now be ignored.
All that said, how would competing socialist cooperatives handle the situation? Imagine there is certain spot of land that must be used to destroy an incoming asteroid. What if a well-recognized socialist commune, functioning independently of all others, refused to allow people to use that property.
Would it be ethical to violate their commune and force them off the land? If so, how do you determine when it is ethical to interfere with the rights of another commune, and when it isn't? Couldn't socialism just as easily transform into tribal warfare as anarcho-capitalism since socialists generally haven't outlined a clear set of rights for the commune?
[1]“For central to Nozick’s account is the thesis that all legitimate entitlements can be traced to legitimate acts of original acquisition. But, if that is so, there are in fact very few, and in some large areas of the world no, legitimate entitlements. The property-owners of the modern world are not the legitimate heirs of Lockean individuals who performed quasi-Lockean… acts of original acquisition; they are the inheritors of those who, for example, stole and used violence to steal the common lands of England from the common people, vast tracts of North America from the American Indian, much of Ireland from this Irisih, and Prussia from the original non-German Prussians. This is the historical reality ideologically concealed behind any Lockean thesis.” -- Alasdair MacIntyre, After Virtue