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RadioRaheem84
27th June 2011, 17:13
Arrest Warrant issued by the International Criminal Court in the Hague for Gaddafi.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/gaddafi-arrest-warrant-icc_n_884984.html?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=062711&utm_medium=email&utm_content=FeatureTitle&utm_term=Daily%20Brief
It's for murdering civilians during the rebel led insurrection that sparked the calamity in Libya.
Amazing, how NATO believes it's carrying out some sort of justice in Africa, by killing civilians with their bombing campaign but Gaddafi gets a warrant by the ICC for putting down the rebellion, what pretty much any State would do.
Gaddafi has to go, no question, but the methods used to employ his speedy departure by the West are just as questionable.
Your thoughts.
Lenina Rosenweg
27th June 2011, 17:36
I agree. Qaddaffi is holding on longer than expected and this is creating disruption w/in the NATO alliance. As I understand the threat of being charged w/crimes against humanity was tacitly used to force several of Qaddaffi's top associates to come to London.This is a way of both tightening the noose and a propaganda ploy.
Obviously NATO is trying very hard to kill Qaddaffi himself. They want authoritarianism without Qaddaffi. There are very real emancipatory elements in the rebellion and this should be understand, not understanding this only gives credence to NATO intervention. These people will be pushed aside post-Qaddaffi though.
Sinister Cultural Marxist
27th June 2011, 17:51
Gaddafi should go to prison for war crimes. He has used heavy artillery against Misratah and other populated areas, which led to a large number of civilian casualties. Of course, if the ICC really went after all war criminals equally, Gaddafi would share his cell with Dick Cheney, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu. The hypocrisy of the "West" on this topic is obvious for everyone to see.
RadioRaheem84
27th June 2011, 17:57
Gaddafi should go to prison for war crimes. He has used heavy artillery against Misratah and other populated areas, which led to a large number of civilian casualties. Of course, if the ICC really went after all war criminals equally, Gaddafi would share his cell with Dick Cheney, Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu. The hypocrisy of the "West" on this topic is obvious for everyone to see.
I was under the assumption that Gaddafi was fighting off a rebel movement which is largely comprised of civilians. Of course with any fighting in the streets with a rebel movement, civilians (with guns) will be killed.
Are we talking that he ordered the spraying of civilians with bullets in the streets? OR that he ordered for the rebel civilian movement to be put down?
Vladimir Innit Lenin
27th June 2011, 17:59
Do I even need to say 'Blair, Bush et al'?
It's what we, and many others, are all thinking. Though fair enough, Qaddafi should be tried. Wonder if they'll hand him over to this 'transitional council' when it's done so that he can go hang? That's what they seem to like doing, these peaceful democrats of the west.:rolleyes:
Sinister Cultural Marxist
27th June 2011, 18:13
I was under the assumption that Gaddafi was fighting off a rebel movement which is largely comprised of civilians. Of course with any fighting in the streets with a rebel movement, civilians (with guns) will be killed.
Are we talking that he ordered the spraying of civilians with bullets in the streets? OR that he ordered for the rebel civilian movement to be put down?
This would make sense if he was just fighting the rebels. He actually used heavy artillery, IE grad rockets, on civilian areas. Such an indiscriminate weapon has no place, as it cannot distinguish between armed civilians and unarmed civilians.
Saying that he is justified in doing that is like saying America was right to firebomb Tokyo because there were soldiers in the city. Sure, there were soldiers in the city, but napalm usually doesn't ask whose a soldier and whose an unarmed person before it burns them alive.
Kiev Communard
27th June 2011, 19:19
Actually both Gaddafi and the leaders of the rebels (i.e. former Gaddafi's officials) are criminals and exploiters, and in this situation, I think, the problem lies not in the fact that an arrest warrant was issued for Gaddafi but that a similar warrant was not issued for rebel leaders, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, NATO Air Force commanders targeting civilian buildings, etc. as well.
Rafiq
27th June 2011, 22:10
For a minute there, I thought it was the other ICC.
Blake's Baby
27th June 2011, 22:28
The International Cricketing Commission?
I saw this story on Yahoo first as 'ICC issues warrant...' and thought, 'f***ing hell, that'll be a good article in International Review'. But then sanity returned...
punisa
27th June 2011, 22:30
Colonel Gaddafi is holding in amazingly.. when air-strikes began I thought he would be gone in 48 hours and look just how much time passed since then.
I don't want to dwell deep into the debate how good/evil he is, but he is a great fighter against imperialism and he taunts them like nobody did in decades...
One of his last comments was: "Bring on the ground troops you cowards and you will face an unimaginable defeat".
NATO is becoming nervous and the money is running shorter by the day, I hope that Gadaffi will be victorious.
Revy
27th June 2011, 23:37
Why did they invade Libya, but not Sudan? Is it because Sudan doesn't have enough oil?
All they did over Sudan was just bleat on about genocide and give speeches for years. But first sign Gaddafi is killing civilians, and BAM, NATO's there faster than you can say "ulterior motives".
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