Is Hip Hop banned in North Korea? [Archive]

bailey_187

24th June 2011, 23:17

and if it is, how do our posters who uphold the DPRK while being "hip hop heads" feel about this? Is it just a simple mistake of the leadership? Is there any real reason u feel justifies it?

And if it is not, which MC do they like the most?

serious fred, no troll

Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk

24th June 2011, 23:23

wouldn't surprise me, what the fuck isn't banned in nk? that's a better question

Dr Mindbender

24th June 2011, 23:43

I don't think it would be banned since its fairly impossible for average NK citizens to get access to western style music in the first place. There is no internet access as we would understand it for ordinary people (the 'internet' in the DPRK is essentially a national 'intranet' controlled by the state), all foreign radio signals are blocked and electronic storage devices carried by foreigners probably dont get past customs.

Le Libérer

24th June 2011, 23:56

How about we give this one to Sammy in the music forum.

Moved.

Pirate Utopian

25th June 2011, 00:16

I wouldnt be surprised if most North Koreans have never heard of hiphop.

bailey_187

25th June 2011, 00:19

disagree with moving thread but mods like using their tools so i wont complain

IndependentCitizen

25th June 2011, 00:22

I heard Kim Jong Il can spit some sick bars.

scarletghoul

25th June 2011, 00:25

probably youve all seen this but it would be ridiculous for no one to post it here
7rE0-ek6MZA

IndependentCitizen

25th June 2011, 00:28

probably youve all seen this but it would be ridiculous for no one to post it here
7rE0-ek6MZA

My ears are bleeding, and my eyes are destroying themselves. Why, just why did you post this monstrosity?!

scarletghoul

25th June 2011, 00:50

My ears are bleeding, and my eyes are destroying themselves. Why, just why did you post this monstrosity?!
some things are just so painfully lame that they negate their negation and become awesome

Revolutionair

25th June 2011, 01:39

Aw, I just wanted to post that video. :(

Hebrew Hammer

25th June 2011, 02:07

probably youve all seen this but it would be ridiculous for no one to post it here
7rE0-ek6MZA

This is why he's called Kim Jong-Ill.

CynicalIdealist

25th June 2011, 07:45

They allow disco. lwoSFQb5HVk

wunderbar

25th June 2011, 07:56

They allow disco. lwoSFQb5HVk

North Korea could be accused of giving up socialism, but could never be accused of giving up the funk.

fatpanda

26th June 2011, 18:59

wouldn't surprise me, what the fuck isn't banned in nk? that's a better question

Mozart

Sam_b

26th June 2011, 20:53

How about we give this one to Sammy in the music forum

Oh....great.

Anyone with a good reason why this shouldn't be moved to Chit-Chat?

bailey_187

26th June 2011, 21:19

wtf u guys are dicks its a genuine question about how someone could reconcile strong support of a government which feels it necesary to deprive its population of something that person clearly loves. it can be anything, not just music

i swear u little mod pricks are like fucking u got the power in a subforum and u need to flex it, fuck off, i would spin a mods jaw IRL

Tablo

26th June 2011, 21:22

the last donut of the night

26th June 2011, 21:50

homeboy needsa chiiiiiiiiiiilll

Kotze

26th June 2011, 23:24

Tablo

26th June 2011, 23:39

Lol, they were all in formal outfits and hardly even reacted to the music.

Kpop is the worst thing to ever happen btw.

bailey_187

26th June 2011, 23:49

Maybe if you didn't type like a drunk 12 year old the mods and admins would take you more seriously.

when im trying to discuss something proper i try to type well (i hope), when im not i type how i like

Pirate Utopian

27th June 2011, 00:00

L.A.P.

27th June 2011, 01:13

uFVRPXJA2K4

The only music North Korea allows is that factory-processed commercial corporate shit and they expect me to believe that it's still a socialist state?

Vanguard1917

27th June 2011, 16:26

The only music North Korea allows is that factory-processed commercial corporate shit and they expect me to believe that it's still a socialist state?

To be fair, no one in the audience looks like they're enjoying that crap. Especially not the woman at 3:10.

Pirate Utopian

27th June 2011, 16:32

The applause at the end is also very meager.

Pretty Flaco

27th June 2011, 16:34

The tune of a humble worker's whistle is the only music the North Koreans will ever need.

Fawkes

27th June 2011, 17:50

Anyone with a good reason why this shouldn't be moved to Chit-Chat?

Because bailey posted a serious question -- it's not his fault that most have chosen to respond to it in a humorous yet non-constructive manner. Moving it to chit chat would pretty much solidify this thread's current path toward becoming a total joke. Keeping it here or, better yet, moving it to Politics or wherever it was initially posted would help to ensure that at least some people respond constructively to the legitimate question bailey asked.

Why was this thread even moved here in the first place? If "hip hop" was replaced with "Wikipedia" or "Facebook", I doubt the mods would have moved it to the Website subforum.

scarletghoul

27th June 2011, 20:24

As you can see on YT, there have been a couple of pop performers from the south visiting, audience reactions have been a bit awkward IMHO. Here's Shinhwa (I heard them referred to as Hip Hop, but I guess you have to be a tween to believe that):

uFVRPXJA2K4
i love this, even the teen girls in the audience realise how fucking god awful kpop is. the singers must have felt really embarassed and ashamed. and rightly so

Geiseric

27th June 2011, 20:42

I would assume that Rap would be banned in north korea as well as anything else from the west.

Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk

27th June 2011, 20:44

Haha! The reactions are brilliant.

IndependentCitizen

27th June 2011, 21:26

i love this, even the teen girls in the audience realise how fucking god awful kpop is. the singers must have felt really embarassed and ashamed. and rightly so

Holy mother of Christ...

BloodSickle

27th June 2011, 22:17

Because bailey posted a serious question -- it's not his fault that most have chosen to respond to it in a humorous yet non-constructive manner. Moving it to chit chat would pretty much solidify this thread's current path toward becoming a total joke. Keeping it here or, better yet, moving it to Politics or wherever it was initially posted would help to ensure that at least some people respond constructively to the legitimate question bailey asked.

Why was this thread even moved here in the first place? If "hip hop" was replaced with "Wikipedia" or "Facebook", I doubt the mods would have moved it to the Website subforum.

Agreed. Wanting to get back to the ORIGINAL question, SHOULD hip-hop be allowed in NK? (It is not allowed.) What is the point of hip-hop, or music of any kind? To give relief from the bs of life?

Honestly, the average North Korean wouldn't give a shit. They don't know what hip-hop is and could care less. Music is a coping mechanism, an outlet, a privilege. But if you don't about it, it doesn't matter.

Kotze

27th June 2011, 22:34

This was somewhere in the 90s right?Was around 2003 IIRC.
I would assume that Rap would be banned in north korea as well as anything else from the west.The Vice Guide to North Korea (also on YT) shows western music available in a library and on a karaoke machine. It was a guided tour though, so I think the karaoke setup was specifically for foreign guests.

Fawkes

28th June 2011, 07:20

Wanting to get back to the ORIGINAL question, SHOULD hip-hop be allowed in NK?

No, of course it shouldn't be allowed....

What is the point of hip-hop, or music of any kind?
There's no universal or intrinsic purpose, but generally as a means of expression, communication, entertainment, fun (OH NO!)

Honestly, the average North Korean wouldn't give a shit.
Exactly how far up your ass is your head?

They don't know what hip-hop is and could care less.
That's amazing, you mean to say you have the ability to know how millions of people would react to something to which they've never been exposed? If so, what's a genius like you doing hanging around on some dumpy internet forum? Even more so, I guess the fact that they could care less (btw, it's couldn't care less) about hip-hop means that it should just be banned. I mean, why waste the airwaves?

Music is a coping mechanism, an outlet, a privilege.
Yeah, it's all bourgeois decadence, which is why music is only made and listened to by the upper classes :rolleyes:

BloodSickle

30th June 2011, 09:35

Exactly how far up your ass is your head?
Wtf are you talking about?

That's amazing, you mean to say you have the ability to know how millions of people would react to something to which they've never been exposed? If so, what's a genius like you doing hanging around on some dumpy internet forum? Even more so, I guess the fact that they could care less (btw, it's couldn't care less) about hip-hop means that it should just be banned. I mean, why waste the airwaves?
I appreciate you correcting me. Being a douche doesn't make you appear smarter however. I don't remember this being a scientific poll and I stand by my opinion (thought that was a given) of them not giving a shit.

Yeah, it's all bourgeois decadence, which is why music is only made and listened to by the upper classes:rolleyes:
I've read some silly shit on this site, but this takes it. Nice work.

Dr Mindbender

30th June 2011, 12:38

uFVRPXJA2K4

lol- epic head turn at 3.10 :D

Fawkes

30th June 2011, 17:44

Wtf are you talking about?

That's actually the same thing I'm asking you.

I appreciate you correcting me. Being a douche doesn't make you appear smarter however. I don't remember this being a scientific poll and I stand by my opinion (thought that was a given) of them not giving a shit.

1. You have absolutely no basis upon which to say that every North Korean doesn't give a shit that they can't listen to hip hop
2. Even if that was the case (which it can be assumed is not given that it is impossible for you to back up your claims), that is no argument for the state disallowing the population from exposure to an artform.

I've read some silly shit on this site, but this takes it. Nice work.
Did you really miss the sarcasm in that one? You're the one who said music is a privilege...

-marx-

2nd July 2011, 01:46

They have state issued radios with 3? pre-programed channels to listen to. There is a tamper evident sticker on the radio case that is inspected regularly to make certain DPRK citizens are not opening up their radios and tuning/modifying them to South Korean channels. If they do, punishment is allegedly a holiday in a labor/re-education camp.

So I can confidently say yes, hip-hop is non existent in NK.

Their TVs are similar. 2 channels, 3 on sundays, all pre-programmed to state run broadcasts and the sets have tamper evident stickers on them.

Sam_b

6th July 2011, 03:17

Agreed. Wanting to get back to the ORIGINAL question, SHOULD hip-hop be allowed in NK? (It is not allowed.) What is the point of hip-hop, or music of any kind? To give relief from the bs of life?

Honestly, the average North Korean wouldn't give a shit. They don't know what hip-hop is and could care less. Music is a coping mechanism, an outlet, a privilege. But if you don't about it, it doesn't matter.

This is one of the strangest posts to be made in the Music forum. Seriously, what?

Blackscare

6th July 2011, 03:56

when im trying to discuss something proper i try to type well (i hope), when im not i type how i like

So if you didn't feel you were trying to discuss something "proper" (judging by the OP), why are you getting all cranky about it being moved?

Not that I really give a shit in general, to be perfectly clear. I don't usually read your threads because it's usually pretty vapid bullshit. That doesn't mean that I have anything against you or rejoice at your threads being moved and you totally flipping a shit at the mods (ok it's a little funny). Just curious though.

Blackscare

6th July 2011, 04:00

Music is a coping mechanism, an outlet, a privilege. But if you don't about it, it doesn't matter.

Actually, IIRC, NK is really big on music. Creepy music mostly, but I've heard some really good stuff. They don't have much in the way of new instruments, but they produce some really talented singers/whatevers.

Also, I have to say I absolutely hate those leftists that treat pretty much everything as if it's a decadent "privilege".

Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame

8th July 2011, 05:14

If a pro-DPRK Hip-Hop artist were to seek to play within the DPRK would this be allowed? :lol:

bailey_187

9th July 2011, 01:47

So if you didn't feel you were trying to discuss something "proper" (judging by the OP), why are you getting all cranky about it being moved?

Not that I really give a shit in general, to be perfectly clear. I don't usually read your threads because it's usually pretty vapid bullshit. That doesn't mean that I have anything against you or rejoice at your threads being moved and you totally flipping a shit at the mods (ok it's a little funny). Just curious though.

i was serious in the OP, and thought i had typed ok. then i got mad at the mods. my chit chat threads usually full of pointless stuff and i type how i want in them, but are these threads i started recently full of vapid bullshit?:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/industry-and-service-t157511/index.html?p=2164302#post2164302
http://www.revleft.com/vb/thos-whow-support-t157525/index.html?t=157525
http://www.revleft.com/vb/gaddafi-and-middle-t157419/index.html?t=157419
http://www.revleft.com/vb/racism-intent-perceptioni-t155640/index.html?t=155640
http://www.revleft.com/vb/no-country-after-t155559/index.html?t=155559
http://www.revleft.com/vb/fall-eastern-bloc-t154761/index.html?t=154761

is there a problem with those threads?