Why Communism is evil.

[Fantomas]

Communism is a system that feeds on misery. If you are well off, you wouldn't even think of going there. But Marxists' main trait is propaganda. Desperate, poor people will beleive in just about anything to escape their misery. I can understand that. What Communists do well is point out the defects of a Capitalistic society (as if there were any perfect societies); what they don't do well is correct the problems it mentions. Churchill had two sayings when referring to Left Wingers:
1) If at age 20, you're not a Liberal, you don't have a heart. If at 30, you're still a Liberal, you don't have a brain.
2) The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Anybody here that has read the works of Marx and Engel knows well that a Communistic society is an Utopian society, and Utopia is better left to fantasy movies. Anybody with two ounces of gray matter will understand that Communism will never be achieved.
When we're young, most of us are Liberals and/or radicals and want to "fix" the world. As we mature, we realize that what was true in our lives 10 or 15 years ago, is not necessarily true now.
One of the stages in the building of a Communist society is the "dictator of the proletariat". Any dictator, Left or Right, under any excuse, that violates individual rights is wrong and oppressive. Those that insist that Marxism will work "if implemented properly" are in for a rude awakening. Since the Marxist concept is so seriously flawed, it could never be properly implemented.
The only way a Marxist society could exist is thru a dictatorship, coercion, misinformation, and oppression.
Although there might have been good intentions in starting a Marxist society, on the long run it will turn oppressive and brutal. Marxism has been tried many times and always failed and always will; it can only be maintined in place by oppression. Those that still defend Communism do so because of ignorance about the ideology or because they're despots. Some of the ways these Marxists try to defend this ideology is by revising its history as to not have to justify its failure or by not acknowledging the facts of history. You will never meet a rational Marxist because facts and rationale is a Communist's worst enemy. That's why one of the first victims of any Marxist society is an open and free press.

[Moskitto]

Let's rewind about 600 years and make you post fit the times 600 years ago.

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Capitalism is a system that is believed in by heretics. Capitalism as a economic system is so implausable because it tries to place economic values about those of the nobility. Under a capitalist society people will not believe in the church. We will instead have peasants running around wearing satin, silver. There will be nothing to seperate us from those who god has created lower.

Capitalists continue to claim that their system is the perfect system, They believe in freedom of speach for peasants. Why should they have freedom of speach? We have the devine right to be the sole possesors of free speach, wouldn't the bible say otherwise if we didn't?

Why is it that the Capitalist reformers still try and claim that one day a capitalist system can really work, surely we as the nobility should have the sole power to be capitalists? They propose chaos, by ending the fuedal system they will allow peasants to leave their fields, let people worship as they wish and even allow slaves to be freed. Surely this system can only be achieved through dictatorship.

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Times change, what is seen as the norm today was seen as completely stupid centuries ago, Capitalism didn't rule the world instead fuelalism did with results in many ways more oppressive than capitalism or communism, The slave trade and rights for peasants were examples of this oppression.

Annother fact that you ignore is that not everyone on the left are a bunch of robots who whatever is said to them they rebuke them with a copy of Das Kapital following "The Party" Line and anything else is merely fascist. Indeed there are many types of left-wing ideology, Council Communists, Democratic Socialists, Democratic Marxists, Trotskyism, Progressivism, Liberalism to name a few as well as the National Socialist Stalinist, Maoist and Kiminist ideologies which for more information www.geocities.com/redencyclopedia/vocab.htm]Red (http://www.[url) Encyclopedia[/url] is a good resource.

[filimarxist]

first of all, marxism isn't the absolute form of communism there is also leninism, maoism and trotskyism

second of all, communism is a natural adaptation of society, at least the very basic form of it is, that is, every individual will recognize each other's functional importance in society, and by doing so we will see how much we rely on each other, allow me to demonstrate

nature- the wildebeest might hate lions because lions eat them, but they know if there were no lions their population would grow so much that nature won't be able to provide food for them and they would eventually die out. And also, lions know that if they eat too much wildebeest, the population won't get a chance to recuperate and will eventually die out leaving the lions w/o food.

Communism- a lumberjack knows his role in society is to cut down trees, a carpenter knows he must build houses, in order for him to build houses he needs wood from the lumber jack, in order for the lumber jack to have shelter he knows he must give wood to the carpenter, they both know that they need each other to survive,therefore, they provide each other's needs for free, this is communism in it's simplest form, a natural equilibrium that is established by society, this exact pattern exist in nature and always has since the dawn of life, no matter how hard we try we will still end up in communism, it's the nature of all organisms no matter how hard you deny it.

[DaNatural]

fant u are a bafoon my friend-"Any dictator, Left or Right, under any excuse, that violates individual rights is wrong and oppressive" What exactly are our rights? is it our right to exploit people? u talk about things like rights but you dont define them. every man woman was put on this earth with the idea in mind that everyone gets what they deserve. that is our right, our right is to insure that everyone is well off. its not our right to make sure that we have more than other people and achieve this by any means. really think about rights are, why do u have the ability to step on someone to get what u want? that is going against human rights, cus humans rights is equality, u dont deserve any more than me my friend. capitalists dont seem to understand this, they think rights means getting as much as possible. and ill tell you something if governments need to establish dictatorships just to insure that assholes like u dont fuck things up with greed, then shit im all for it. people who play by the rules dont have to worry about it, its only in-human fools like u, who seem to worry about your "rights" being violated. until we can eliminate people like you (through proper education) some times we need to dictate to the masses in order to get the message across. if i had my way tho the easiest way to get rid of scum like u would to just shoot u, but hey its not a utopian society, :). Peace
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(Edited by DaNatural at 12:55 pm on Oct. 25, 2001)