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tachosomoza
21st June 2011, 23:44
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110621/ts_yblog_thelookout/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail


Some people who need medical care but can't afford it go to the emergency room. Others just hope they'll get better. James Richard Verone robbed a bank (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail/41940901/SIG=1262ij5t4/*http://www.gastongazette.com/articles/bank-58397-richard-hailed.html).
Earlier this month, Verone (pictured), a 59-year-old convenience store clerk, walked into a Gaston, N.C., bank and handed the cashier a note demanding $1 and medical attention. Then he waited calmly for police to show up.
He's now in jail and has an appointment with a doctor this week.
Verone's problems started when he lost the job he'd held for 17 years as a Coca Cola deliveryman, amid the economic downturn. He found new work driving a truck, but it didn't last. Eventually, he took a part-time position at the convenience store.
But Verone's body wasn't up to it. The bending and lifting made his back ache. He had problems with his left foot, making him limp. He also suffered from carpal tunnel syndrome and arthritis.
Then he noticed a protrusion on his chest. "The pain was beyond the tolerance that I could accept," Verone told the Gaston Gazette. "I kind of hit a brick wall with everything."
Verone knew he needed help--and he didn't want to be a burden on his sister and brothers. He applied for food stamps, but they weren't enough either.
So he hatched a plan. On June 9, he woke up, showered, ironed his shirt. He mailed a letter to the Gazette, listing the return address as the Gaston County Jail.
"When you receive this a bank robbery will have been committed by me," Verone wrote in the letter. "This robbery is being committed by me for one dollar. I am of sound mind but not so much sound body."
Then Verone hailed a cab to take him to the RBC Bank. Inside, he handed the teller his $1 robbery demand.
"I didn't have any fears," said Verone. "I told the teller that I would sit over here and wait for police."
The teller was so frightened that she had to be taken to the hospital to be checked out. Verone, meanwhile, was taken to jail, just as he'd planned it.
Because he only asked for $1, Verone was charged with larceny, not bank robbery. But he said that if his punishment isn't severe enough, he plans to tell the judge that he'll do it again. His $100,000 bond has been reduced to $2,000, but he says he doesn't plan to pay it.
In jail, Verone said he skips dinner to avoid too much contact with the other inmates. He's already seen some nurses and is scheduled to see a doctor on Friday. He said he's hoping to receive back and foot surgery, and get the protrusion on his chest treated. Then he plans to spend a few years in jail, before getting out in time to collect Social Security and move to the beach.
Verone also presented the view that if the United States had a health-care system which offered people more government support, he wouldn't have had to make the choice he did.
"If you don't have your health you don't have anything," Verone said.
The Affordable Care Act, President Obama's health-care overhaul passed by Congress last year, was designed to make it easier for Americans in situations like Verone's to get health insurance. But most of its provisions don't go into effect until 2014.
As it is, Verone said he thinks he chose the best of a bunch of bad options. "I picked jail."


Sickening.

xub3rn00dlex
21st June 2011, 23:47
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110621/ts_yblog_thelookout/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail



Sickening.

Sorry to let you know, but this has already been posted, and yes, it is sickening.

tachosomoza
21st June 2011, 23:57
Damnit! :cursing:

Zealot
22nd June 2011, 00:01
yeah this was posted but it's pretty damn sad...and funny. When your citizens would rather be in prison, you know the system has failed.

Pretty Flaco
22nd June 2011, 00:09
Damnit! :cursing:
You got beat by a few days too. ;)

Reznov
22nd June 2011, 00:28
yeah this was posted but it's pretty damn sad...and funny. When your citizens would rather be in prison, you know the system has failed.

But Communist countries send you to Gulags to work all day!

xub3rn00dlex
22nd June 2011, 00:43
Damnit! :cursing:

You get an A for effort!

RadioRaheem84
22nd June 2011, 03:08
The US is a third world country.

MattShizzle
22nd June 2011, 03:16
The US is a third world country.

Depends. If you're rich it's probably the best country to live in in the world. If you're middle class it's better than the 3rd world but worse than any non-3rd world country. If you're poor, it is 3rd world. Also, if you aren't a white, Christian, heterosexual, able-bodied man it's worse than otherwise.

tachosomoza
22nd June 2011, 03:22
Depends. If you're rich it's probably the best country to live in in the world. If you're middle class it's better than the 3rd world but worse than any non-3rd world country. If you're poor, it is 3rd world. Also, if you aren't a white, Christian, heterosexual, able-bodied man it's worse than otherwise.

Don't forget rich.

Tablo
22nd June 2011, 03:23
I feel like you guys don't understand how bad it is in what is considered the third world. The US has it pretty good compared to most nations, but yeah. As far as developed nations go, the US is definitely pretty bad.

tachosomoza
22nd June 2011, 03:24
What we need is a modern day SLA, they knew what was up. Distribute the money to the community, fund health clinics, food banks, etc.

RadioRaheem84
22nd June 2011, 04:51
I feel like you guys don't understand how bad it is in what is considered the third world. The US has it pretty good compared to most nations, but yeah. As far as developed nations go, the US is definitely pretty bad.

Well the point is to not compare the US with the worse out there, but the best out there.

The US at the bottom level resembles a third world nation. And I am not talking about the destitute. Americans tend to believe that third world nations are just destitute isolated lands with people living in huts. Kind of like when ever they depict Mexican towns they show Mexican towns as if they're stuck in the 40s, when in reality a lot of Mexican towns resemble poorer areas of Texas cities.

I've been to Tijuana, MX and I was impressed with how modernized it was, poor, but modernized in comparison to what I pictured. I was picturing a dirt poor town with tumbleweeds and people wearing ponchos as most ignorant Americans would.

The point is, before I go off into a tangent, that the working class neighborhoods of third world nations are not THAT far off from looking like poor working class neighborhoods in the US. The fact that we can afford a few more amenities and luxury items means nothing.

We're looking more and more like countries such as Poland, Chile, some of the former bloc states in Eastern Europe, more so than the third world nations in Asia and the whole of Latin America.

These nations do not have sub-Saharan Africa, Guatemalan peasant poverty, or Indian lower caste destitution, but still have working class and poor people who just get by paycheck to paycheck with no real social safety net.

In that sense, the US is third world.

Os Cangaceiros
22nd June 2011, 09:27
Does it really even make sense to refer to nations as "third world" anymore? Wasn't that a Cold War category?

bcbm
22nd June 2011, 09:38
What we need is a modern day SLA, they knew what was up. Distribute the money to the community, fund health clinics, food banks, etc.

how did that go for them?

RadioRaheem84
22nd June 2011, 17:35
Does it really even make sense to refer to nations as "third world" anymore? Wasn't that a Cold War category?

Very true. I was just referring to the US resembling more and more like the nations in the periphery of global capitalism, at least at the bottom level.

I am just seeing more and more similarities between the working poor in the US and the "third world", at least in nations with moderate huge gaps between left and poor like Poland, Russia, Chile, etc.

praxis1966
23rd June 2011, 00:48
Something I find pertinent to this discussion:




The gap between America's rich and poor is so extreme levels of inequality are worse in the land of the free than they are in many developing countries.

The U.S. ranks way behind the European Union and the United Kingdom in terms of inequality of pay, figures show.

In fact, the situation is so extreme the land of the free falls behind countries such as Cameroon, the Ivory Coast and revolutionary Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen - and only just in front of Uganda and Jamaica.

(emphasis added)

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005550/Americas-pay-gap-Inequality-rich-poor-worse-revolutionary-Egypt.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

Arlekino
23rd June 2011, 01:04
This maybe off topic but the question what is mean poverty. Well I came from kind third world and I am living in first world is same living conditions apart few sparkly commodities.

MattShizzle
23rd June 2011, 02:28
This maybe off topic but the question what is mean poverty. Well I came from kind third world and I am living in first world is same living conditions apart few sparkly commodities.


Going by the link from the post previous to yours, the US is now a "third world" country. Shameful. Even more shocking is the Daily Mail (from what I know a very right wing UK paper) wrote the article.

praxis1966
23rd June 2011, 19:33
Even more shocking is the Daily Mail (from what I know a very right wing UK paper) wrote the article.

Well, I'm pretty sure that this has been reported on by other outlets as well. That just happened to be the first one the Google News search spit out. It may be motivated by jingoism in the case of the Mail, but I don't know that necessarily invalidates the findings of the study referred to.

dez
23rd June 2011, 20:53
Well the point is to not compare the US with the worse out there, but the best out there.

The US at the bottom level resembles a third world nation. And I am not talking about the destitute. Americans tend to believe that third world nations are just destitute isolated lands with people living in huts. Kind of like when ever they depict Mexican towns they show Mexican towns as if they're stuck in the 40s, when in reality a lot of Mexican towns resemble poorer areas of Texas cities.

I've been to Tijuana, MX and I was impressed with how modernized it was, poor, but modernized in comparison to what I pictured. I was picturing a dirt poor town with tumbleweeds and people wearing ponchos as most ignorant Americans would.

The point is, before I go off into a tangent, that the working class neighborhoods of third world nations are not THAT far off from looking like poor working class neighborhoods in the US. The fact that we can afford a few more amenities and luxury items means nothing.

We're looking more and more like countries such as Poland, Chile, some of the former bloc states in Eastern Europe, more so than the third world nations in Asia and the whole of Latin America.

These nations do not have sub-Saharan Africa, Guatemalan peasant poverty, or Indian lower caste destitution, but still have working class and poor people who just get by paycheck to paycheck with no real social safety net.

In that sense, the US is third world.


http://www.passeiweb.com/saiba_mais/voce_sabia/imagens/nordeste_seca_chao.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5yfifpuKBk8/TWKspcavzRI/AAAAAAAAALw/DxCFd_eOxjY/s1600/seca1.jpg

http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/ea/v17n48/a02f02.jpg

http://www.portaldonordeste.com/nordeste/images/stories/desnutricao.jpg

http://guerrinha.flogbrasil.terra.com.br/fotos/e/a/8/guerrinha/1244029522.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTV6euIO63o


Whenever the US has that, you can say the US is third world.

Thats brazil by the way.

Decolonize The Left
23rd June 2011, 21:01
I'm not saying the US is comparable to the third world, nor do I think the debate is worthwhile, but there are many areas of the US which are dirt poor. To ignore this, or try to downplay it as not so bad, is simply foolish.

If you doubt me I suggest they take a trip out to rural West Virginia and see how high and mighty folks are living out there....

- August

praxis1966
23rd June 2011, 23:12
Exactly. Nobody's saying that the US is a third world country (I don't think). What we're saying is that the wage inequality and the standard of living for the poorer sectors of it have gotten so bad in recent years that it's comparable to some countries almost no one considers "first world."