Problem identifying with an ideology.

[Prinskaj]

I am currently on an "journey" attempting to find the ideological group/label that fits my political views, but I can´t seem to find any. Therefore i hope that some more experienced people would shred a bit of light on this.
I think that a market can be a force of good, as long as it is run through a state "filter", in line with libertarian socialism. But i also believe that all humanitarian services should be nationalize and free to the public, like in a social democracy.

[hatzel]

I am currently on an "journey" attempting to find the ideological group/label that fits my political views

Welcome to the forum, and the Left as a whole! Most people will tell you not to worry about assigning some label to yourself so quickly. Just hang around here, chat to people, learn about the different ideas, and decide which best suits you. There's no rush, and you'll probably spend your whole life learning, so why not start now?


I think that a market can be a force of good, as long as it is run through a state "filter", in line with libertarian socialism.
There's an issue here, because the existence of a State to 'filter' the market (not entirely sure what you mean) is rather incompatible with libertarian socialism, the intention of which is the abolition of the State and State interference. You may, however, just be misusing terms such as 'market' or 'State'...could you perhaps clarify what you mean?


But i also believe that all humanitarian services should be nationalize and free to the public, like in a social democracy.
This would also be the case for most people here (well, some wouldn't want the word 'nationalised,' but 'socialised,' but I don't think that we have to argue over semantics here), as the same would be the case in a communist society, for example. Free education and healthcare and stuff (which I assume is what you mean) not an exclusive characteristic of social democracy, so pretty much any ideology represented on this site would at least meet that requirement.

[Blake's Baby]

I'm sorry Prinskaj, but if you really believe in a market (with state intervention) and nationalised industries (not even all industries, only 'humanitarian' ones) then I'd say thay you're a social democrat, someone who believes that capitalism should serve the people, and not a 'revolutionary leftist' at all.

[Wubbaz]

I am currently on an "journey" attempting to find the ideological group/label that fits my political views, but I can´t seem to find any. Therefore i hope that some more experienced people would shred a bit of light on this.
I think that a market can be a force of good, as long as it is run through a state "filter", in line with libertarian socialism. But i also believe that all humanitarian services should be nationalize and free to the public, like in a social democracy.

From what I can read here, your viewpoints fits great together with social democratic views. What you are describing apears to sound like the social system in the Scandinavian countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden and so on). I would like you to further explain what you mean by a state "filter" for the market, since the state already has that role in Capitalism, albeit a limited one.

Also, you should wait with labelling yourself. Aligning yourself too quickly with an ideology will make you lose that broad perspective that is important when you are just beginning to educate yourself on far-left writers and tendencies. I encourage you to read some of the basic litterature, such as the Manifesto and likewise. There is a litterature list in the stickies that I would recommend. Also, you should visit the marxist(dot)org - they have lots of writings from all sorts of tendencies.

[Broletariat]

I'm sorry Prinskaj, but if you really believe in a market (with state intervention) and nationalised industries (not even all industries, only 'humanitarian' ones) then I'd say thay you're a social democrat, someone who believes that capitalism should serve the people, and not a 'revolutionary leftist' at all.

This is quite true.

An important thing to understand Prinskaj, is Marx's theory of Commodity Fetishism. This theory, as I understand it, basically says that Capitalism, MUST run a certain way. That if a market does exist, it WILL behave in a certain manner, you can't change it.

Here's ZeroNowhere on fetishism, well worth the read
http://pastebin.com/SjbxF5UT

[The Teacher]

You seem like a social democratic to me.

[Prinskaj]

I would like you to further explain what you mean by a state "filter" for the market, since the state already has that role in Capitalism, albeit a limited one.

By a state/government "filter" I mean an agency or entity, that forces by law or some other way, all private enterprise to publish their fiances and all other information, so that tax evasion, worker exploitation, and other wrongdoings would be somewhat eliminated or at least minimized, and consumers would be able to make informed decisions, because of a completely transparent market.
This is unlike current social democracies, since multinational corporations and other bushiness are allowed to keep their record (and dirty secrets) to themselves.

And sorry about the late responds.

[Broletariat]

Worker exploitation can not be eliminated, that is the source of profit. If it were eliminated, Capitalists would have no interest in production at all.