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zezima
19th June 2011, 01:19
What are your attitudes to bullies?

And do you agree or disagree with what this man says in the video

(I can't post links so just type in BULLIES to youtube and its the video by TheAmazingAtheist)

I agree that if you're being bullied you should fight back, but I disagree that if you don't fight back you're weak/a coward

miltonwasfried...man
19th June 2011, 04:45
If you don't defend your liberty, what will you stand up for? Violence is not neccessarily the best option, because then you may in turn become just as bad. But when it comes down to it you have to defend yourself at all costs.

OhYesIdid
19th June 2011, 04:47
Bullies are dumb sub-humanized pieces of shit, the product of our capitalist machine. A fucking plague, beasts to be put down. Kids should learn how to defend themselves as part of a mandatory school program, the rest is up to them,

thesadmafioso
19th June 2011, 04:51
I'm more prone to supporting methods which avoid the use of violent measures, but then again I am also horribly weak so it's not as if I have much of a choice.

miltonwasfried...man
19th June 2011, 04:59
Violence should definietly be the last option considered. Ignoring the loser who is bothering you or seeking help from family/friends/teachers is what I would recommend trying first.

The Idler
19th June 2011, 11:17
Replace "bullies" with "capitalism" and you'll see why leftists should fight back, not necessarily physically, but with strength in numbers.

Volcanicity
19th June 2011, 11:53
I agree that if you're being bullied you should fight back, but I disagree that if you don't fight back you're weak/a coward
It's not cowardly at all in some cases it's just common sense.If someone's bigger than you are who you know you can't realistically take on in a fight and they beat the hell out of you for sadistic pleasure in seeing you cry and in pain, just don't let your hurt show outwardly to them.I know it's easier said than done but if you can do that then you can at least take some kind of inner pleasure in knowing that you've in some way beaten them in their aim.I know this may sound like bad advice but believe me it work's.

Now if someone bullies you who you think you have some kind of a chance against,then by all means take them on and at least attempt to beat the shit out of them.

Pioneers_Violin
19th June 2011, 14:25
Bullies are natures little way of making you stronger. At the time it hurts, maybe to the point of permanent injury or death. But if you survive ( physically and psychologically) you will be stronger and more emphatic for it.

Looking at it from a positve point of view, one learns to defend themselves both physically and mentally as well as verbally. These painful lessons are best learnt when one is young and resilient.

On the downside, long- lasting psychological damage is possible, sometimes taking decades to recover from. Of course disabilities and death are also possible.

Is it worth it? In my case, I am glad to have learned these cruel lessons early in life.
The appreciation came later as I observed adults having to learn these lessons later in life, often at the hands of Capitalists in the form of employers, creditors, etc...

So THAT'S what happens to bullies when they grow up!

To any suffering through bullying: Learn from this. The bullying is probably a result of the sub- human bullies detecting weakness on your part. You must become strong, especially emotionally strong to survive both this your current challenge and life in general.

Good Luck,
Be strong,
P.V.

Lanky Wanker
19th June 2011, 14:51
Unless you've been in a person's shoes who was bullied to the point where they felt suicidal and had no one they could trust to get help from, I think it's quite ignorant to call someone a coward for not fighting back. Fighting back seems easy if you're able to do it yourself, but for others this isn't always the case. People make it sound as though if you're being bullied, telling the teacher will solve the problem and make your life great again, which is sometimes the case, but not always. There are reasons as to why many people don't tell others they're being bullied, and I don't think we should be judging them and calling them cowards. That's actually part of the reason some people don't get help, because it makes them feel weak and incapable of dealing with situations on their own, or like the bully will come back twice as hard when there's no teacher/parent to save them.

Volcanicity
19th June 2011, 15:18
Fighting back seems easy if you're able to do it yourself, but for others this isn't always the case. People make it sound as though if you're being bullied, telling the teacher will solve the problem and make your life great again, which is sometimes the case, but not always. There are reasons as to why many people don't tell others they're being bullied, and I don't think we should be judging them and calling them cowards. That's actually part of the reason some people don't get help, because it makes them feel weak and incapable of dealing with situations on their own, or like the bully will come back twice as hard when there's no teacher/parent to save them.
I totally agree, this is what I was referring to in my previous post where I was talking from my own experience from when I was at school year's ago.With bullies you have to try to get the upper hand in any way possible.This whole thing of telling teachers,parents etc that you're being bullied does'nt necessarily work on a individual basis.I had the shit kicked out of me many times at school from people way bigger than me, but not showing they were getting to me got me a lot respect from others (but more importantly unknowingly to them)it boosted my own self-esteem.

The Dark Side of the Moon
19th June 2011, 16:39
Fighting fire with fire is they way I did it, except when the one kid that had a reason to Fight me came around, then I always relied on my friends help

Geiseric
20th June 2011, 05:26
the most i've been bullied is little annoying shit like kinda hiding my backpack in the room and telling me where it is later on, nobody's tried to really fight me because im kinda a big guy. the best thing you can do is start working out. Whenever i see people being bullied i usually help them out, but bullying isnt really bad at my school.

Die Rote Fahne
20th June 2011, 05:33
I was never physically bullied, but I was called names when I was younger, and verbally assaulted a bit. It never phased me really. Thinking back though, kinda makes me ask myself why i was so oblivious to the bullying. I also wonder about if it had any affect on why I was a shut-in, or why I was socially awkward and such.