Pflp

[Leftsolidarity]

I need some help learning about the PFLP. How do you feel about it? From what I've found I like their stated goals but they do seem like actual terrorists. Not just the stupid label thrown on by Western media but they seem to target innocent civilans that have nothing to do with their cause.

[Tablo]

I used to support them before gathering a more cohesive understanding of politics(I would thank Devrim for this). As far as major Palestinian nationalist groups go they are okay. Better than Hamas and Fatah. I do not support or particularly like them. The targetting of Israeli civilians was largely what made the world aware of the plight of the Palestinians. I do not agree with the tactics they have employed, but it was successful in building awareness and international solidarity. I don't agree with their platform, tactics, or anything about them really.. I just want the Israeli state to burn and for everyone to get along and live peacefully.

[Sun at Eight]

When I was living in Jerusalem, and the PFLP assassinated Israeli tourism minister Rehavam "Gandhi" Ze'evi, an advocate of population transfer and generally a fascist, it didn't seem worth shedding tears over, although it doesn't seem to have done any good for anybody. Another fun fact: they assassinated him at the Hyatt in East Jerusalem, where he stayed frequently to show that the colonizer had nothing to fear from the colonized.

However, I am kind of surprised by the Wikipedia list of attacks, since I'll admit my impression was that the PFLP (just remembering their own announcements of attacks) was more "focused" than the list suggests - more attacks on military outposts and the more immediately harassing armed settlers in the West Bank and Gaza. However, Palestinian militant groups do make the argument that with general conscription and off-duty soldiers, a lot of Israelis are not really civilians. I don't agree with that, but Israel holds the same assessment of Palestinians and is able to act on it, while ruining their lives in a slow drip process.

[Leftsolidarity]

I talked to my good friend who sent a year or so in Palestine helping fight against Israeli occupation and he said that the PFLP has now started to focus their attacks. He also said the there's a split between those who don't care about civilan deaths and those who do. I also understand but don't exactly agree with the argument that no Israeli is actually an "innocent" civilan and all that.

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

I talked to my good friend who sent a year or so in Palestine helping fight against Israeli occupation and he said that the PFLP has now started to focus their attacks. He also said the there's a split between those who don't care about civilan deaths and those who do. I also understand but don't exactly agree with the argument that no Israeli is actually an "innocent" civilan and all that.

'said that the PFLP has now started to focus their attacks.'
The Popular Front For Liberation of Palestine has focused their attacks against the Zionist State for quite some time and through these focused attacks, Palestine has been capable of continuing Resistance against Zionist Occupation.
'. He also said the there's a split between those who don't care about civilan deaths and those who do. '
:rolleyes: A rather silly comment, likely he is referring to the General Command which is not the PFLP and should not be confused with the PFLP.

While Civilian Deaths should indeed be 'cared' about, inherently the Zionist Occupational Forces do not in the least care about Palestinian Civilians and due to this, Working Class Resistance in Palestine should seek to emancipate the Palestinian Proletariat from the chains of Zionism and Imperialism at all costs through continued Resistance.

[Leftsolidarity]

'said that the PFLP has now started to focus their attacks.'
The Popular Front For Liberation of Palestine has focused their attacks against the Zionist State for quite some time and through these focused attacks, Palestine has been capable of continuing Resistance against Zionist Occupation.
'. He also said the there's a split between those who don't care about civilan deaths and those who do. '
:rolleyes: A rather silly comment, likely he is referring to the General Command which is not the PFLP and should not be confused with the PFLP.

While Civilian Deaths should indeed be 'cared' about, inherently the Zionist Occupational Forces do not in the least care about Palestinian Civilians and due to this, Working Class Resistance in Palestine should seek to emancipate the Palestinian Proletariat from the chains of Zionism and Imperialism at all costs through continued Resistance.

Thank you for the clearing that up. He did say General Command but I couldn't remember when I was typing. I don't think that all their attacks have been that focused such as when they hi-jack planes.

[pastradamus]

Long gone are the days of Khaled. The PFLP has lost its way in my opinion and are almost of a non-socialist variey these days. I must admit, im not the best person to be talking to withs regards the PFLP but from what I know recently they have declined in support and only hang onto a few small strongholds politically. To address the whole "terrorism" issue, terrorism was the method back in the 70's but I dont believe this is the way any more. I could be wrong though.

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

Thank you for the clearing that up. He did say General Command but I couldn't remember when I was typing. I don't think that all their attacks have been that focused such as when they hi-jack planes.


'attacks have been that focused such as when they hi-jack planes'
The PFLP's Hijackings had came to a hault following the aftermath of Dawson's Fields and the slaughter of Thousands of Palestinians due to Zionists as a result of the Dawson's Fields Hijackings; Not to mention Patrick Arguello having been executed by Zionist forces after having been captured. However, these actions were indeed highly organized and were done with massive precision in comparison to other Urban Guerrilla Organizations that had undertaken Aircraft Hijackings.

Following Dawson's Fields however though GC had continued at times arranging Aircraft Hijackings and undertaking these actions against the Zionist State. As well, split-offs from the PFLP had undertaken Hijackings without the 'Official Support' of the PFLP which were usually done in cooperation with other Urban Guerrilla Movements such as the Red Army Faction (RAF) and Revolutionary Cells. (RZ)

Speaking of which, the assassinated Tourist Minister that you were referring to previously was Rehavam Ze'evi whom more or less was a Neo-Fascist that had proposed Population Transfer, continued occupation and further slaughter of Palestinians; It was undertaken by Hamdi Quran in response to Abu Ali Mustafa having been killed by Zionist Occupational Forces.



Long gone are the days of Khaled. The PFLP has lost its way in my opinion and are almost of a non-socialist variey these days. I must admit, im not the best person to be talking to withs regards the PFLP but from what I know recently they have declined in support and only hang onto a few small strongholds politically. To address the whole "terrorism" issue, terrorism was the method back in the 70's but I dont believe this is the way any more. I could be wrong though.

'Long gone are the days of Khaled'

Leila is a member of the Palestinian National Council and is still actively involved with the PFLP.

'The PFLP has lost its way in my opinion and are almost of a non-socialist variey these days.'

The PFLP continues to represent the interests of the Palestinian Working Class to a massive degree, having organized massive Palestinian Workers Demonstrations and May Day Celebrations within Palestine.

'To address the whole "terrorism" issue, terrorism was the method back in the 70's'

If you choose to call the methods that the PFLP had undertaken against Zionism as a direct response to Zionist tactics that were seeking to maintain Occupation and ethnically cleanse Palestine 'Terrorist'.

'but I dont believe this is the way any more'
The PFLP's Armed Wing is the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades which continues to carry out acts of resistance against Zionist Occupational Forces within Palestine.