Fascism and National Socialism

[TrotskyTheGreat]

I am a Anarcho-Trotskyist, and I have been studying a lot about Fascism and National Socialism. I have been reading Articles, pamphlets, letters, and books etc. all about the topic. I have come here to ask a simple question to see if the left understands what Fascism and National Socialism is.


What is the difference between Fascism and National Socialism?


PS- I put this in Practice & Propaganda thread because when practicing something you must have knowledge of the opposition. I wanted to see if others on this web site understood that there is a difference between the two.

[Aurorus Ruber]

Wait, there really is such a thing as anarcho-Trotskyism? This sort of thing probably belongs in the Learning subforum, by the way.

[Terminator X]

I smell a troll...

[TrotskyTheGreat]

I smell a troll...

Me?

[genstrike]

I think it is rather ironic that someone who calls himself an "Anarcho-Trotskyist" is challenging other people to tell him the difference between two ideologies

[Catmatic Leftist]

I smell a troll...

I second this. Look through his glorious post history.



My friend, revolution is like a apple. It takes the right amount of time and effort to make it fall. But it will rot. And regrow into a apple tree and repeat it's self.


In other words: Revolution is pointless. If you really have a problem with something. Don't give-a-shit about it because if you try and even if you succeed, it will return to the old régime.

[Die Rote Fahne]

I am a anarcho-fascist. Can someone tell me the difference between Communism and Trotskyism.

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[JustMovement]

Revolution is like a sloth.

[TrotskyTheGreat]

I think it is rather ironic that someone who calls himself an "Anarcho-Trotskyist" is challenging other people to tell him the difference between two ideologies

Hmm sir. If I may ask, could you be as so kind to fuck off. And let me tend to my own views. There is a Anarcho-Trotskyist group on this site. Look there for more info. Asshole.

[Jimmie Higgins]

If you are not a troll, I apologize for the suspicion above, but sometimes when people come here and start asking about opinions on fascism in this way, they are just trolls.

Anyway, I'm no expert, but I'll bite. IMO, fascism and various strands are not completely ideologically coherent. As you may know, based on your screen name, Trotsky described it as the politics coming out of the petty-bourgeois when under pressure from above by the capitalist system and below from the organized or revolutionary working class. Because these ideologies basically came out of efforts to stop worker's movements their positions and philosophy is different in different places and times. Italian fascism carried a lot of the rhetoric or ideas of the Italian nationalist movement (uniting Italy into one state) whereas German Nazism based it's rallying cry around "blood" and ethnicity whereas in other places like Eastern Europe it glorified elements of monarchism or the catholic church. Today what could be described as fascism exists in India and is focused around Hindu nationalism, in Russia there are groups like the "National-Bolsheviks" which incorporate romanticized Stalinist imagery and the "glory of Russia" in the Soviet days. In the US during the 1920s and 1930s there was a wave of fascism which took the form of a revival of KKK groups but who targeted catholic and Jewish immigrants as well as reds. Today in the US there are groups like the "green"-fascists and national-"anarchists".

The unifying features of fascism are not so much their specific rhetoric or imagery or individual political positions but in their goal to get rid of social conflict (generally class conflict) from the top-down and unify the nation - usually by terrorizing or (if in power) outlawing all outside or independent organizing. So Nazism in Germany or National-Syndicalism in Italy are basically specific varieties of a broader grouping: fascism. Nazism is to Fascism as Hammerhead is to Shark.

[TrotskyTheGreat]

Exactly what i was looking for.

[genstrike]

Hmm sir. If I may ask, could you be as so kind to fuck off. And let me tend to my own views. There is a Anarcho-Trotskyist group on this site. Look there for more info. Asshole.

Do you mean the group with 15 members, no visible content, and whose only information is:

This is for all those willing to join, and know that the Anarcho-Trotskyist Conspiracy is alive and well on RevLeft.

WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED BY THOSE DECADENT BOURGEOISIE STALINISTS, WHO TRY AND TURN OUR CONSPIRACY AGAINST OUR FELLOW REVOLUTIONARIES!

Yeah, thanks for that wealth of information

Go shoot yourself at Kronstadt