Anyone with experience in a Hal Draper style "political centre"

[North Star]

I've been doing a lot of reading lately on organizational questions. I've been close to the revolutionary movement for a long time but have dove into political activity again after having life kind of drift may away from it for a couple of years. Anyway I've met a lot of great people in organizations that run on "democratic centralism" but are actually bureaucratic centralist. Anyway to the point is that I've been toying with the idea of trying to form a propaganda group/blog/publication using Draper's ideas. I'm wondering if anyone has done this kind of thing and can provide some help, experience criticism of what they have done.
Thanks!

[Q]

You might be interested in this thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/dead-ends-road-t154952/index.html), particularly also the criticisms in posts 8 and 14. Long story short: A political center without a party organisation is making the opposite mistake of a political sect. The two must be intertwined for it to become a real alternative. A genuine party can, and probably must even, have many different political centers, all vying to become the majority through clarification by debate and testing this against real life experiences.

A political sect opposes this process of development by enforcing a monopoly on consensus ("partyline") via bureaucratic methods. What is allowed is, at best, to wage dissent "internally", where the leadership is in the upperhand almost by definition and can suppress dissent by this position, or force a split. A political center however, in the Draper sense, is without organisation, nor with a goal to build one. Most of these groups degenerate after a while into "think tanks" or completely disintegrate.

[North Star]

Some valid points, to be sure but I haven't been convinced it's a horrible idea. Chances of degeneration into things like think tanks have happened to previous "revolutionary" parties as well. I just think the potential for degeneration and demoralization is greater in democratic (bureaucratic) centralist organizations. Parties that have been around a while or even had some success in organizing did so because there was a mass movement surrounding them. The RCP still uses its legacy from the 1970's the IMT still reminds everyone of the success of Militant. etc. We can certainly learn from previous attempts at political centres to try to keep them more focused. I don't necessarily reject the party. What I want to see is a mass party. I don't think a bureaucratic sect will be able to become a mass revolutionary party even if the objective conditions are favourable.