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727Goon
14th June 2011, 00:00
I'm done. I'm joining the fucking Army. Fuck it, I got laid off today and I'm over working at fast food places. I don't give a fuck anymore, even the thought of the time and effort and frustration of applying for yet another job I'll hate pisses me the fuck off. The Army might even be good for me, I'm pretty damn near suicidal right now so I won't catch that PTSD shit since I don't give a fuck. Hell one of the only reasons I keep on living is for my family and guess what if I die that's a shit ton of insurance money to them. Aint that some shit, I'd provide for my daughter better dead than alive. Deployments? Aint no thing, that's just a year away from the drama with my girlfriend. Hell this is gonna be an educational experience, up until pretty recently all men were expected to go to war in most cultures. And if I do my time and am intact and alive at the end I'll get health care and job opportunities and people will think I'm a fucking hero. As for my politics, fuck politics. The fact is the Army will do more for me, the targeted demographic for tokenization in a lot of your two bit communist parties, than communism could. And I mean yeah communism is a good idea, but capitalism looks good in theory too, and I'm sure communism would have it's fair share of problems if it were ever implemented. If any of you ever meet me and we start talking politics and you start saying all that communist shit, I'll just say something really snide and stupid like "Enjoy your freedom of speech. I'll foot the bill". You and I will both know that thats fucking dumb, but luckily for me like 90 percent of Americans are retarded as fuck so I'll win by popularity. That's the kind of shit white people give standing ovations to in public. So enjoy being communists guys, I'll enjoy my free drinks and free money.
PhoenixAsh
14th June 2011, 00:11
Ok. Good luck. Try not to kill anybody.
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 00:11
Homie, totally serious, the Army is a bullshit career field. You might run a good chance of ending up homeless or worse.
Fuck communism, have some fucking internally colonized person common sense. The armed forces give a fuck about the brown/black/whatever man in this country, and happily chew the internally colonized up and spit them out.
There has to be better options for you, the military is just plain fucking stupid.
Dunk
14th June 2011, 00:16
I'm done. I'm joining the fucking Army. Fuck it, I got laid off today and I'm over working at fast food places. I don't give a fuck anymore, even the thought of the time and effort and frustration of applying for yet another job I'll hate pisses me the fuck off. The Army might even be good for me, I'm pretty damn near suicidal right now so I won't catch that PTSD shit since I don't give a fuck. Hell one of the only reasons I keep on living is for my family and guess what if I die that's a shit ton of insurance money to them. Aint that some shit, I'd provide for my daughter better dead than alive. Deployments? Aint no thing, that's just a year away from the drama with my girlfriend. Hell this is gonna be an educational experience, up until pretty recently all men were expected to go to war in most cultures. And if I do my time and am intact and alive at the end I'll get health care and job opportunities and people will think I'm a fucking hero. As for my politics, fuck politics. The fact is the Army will do more for me, the targeted demographic for tokenization in a lot of your two bit communist parties, than communism could. And I mean yeah communism is a good idea, but capitalism looks good in theory too, and I'm sure communism would have it's fair share of problems if it were ever implemented. If any of you ever meet me and we start talking politics and you start saying all that communist shit, I'll just say something really snide and stupid like "Enjoy your freedom of speech. I'll foot the bill". You and I will both know that thats fucking dumb, but luckily for me like 90 percent of Americans are retarded as fuck so I'll win by popularity. That's the kind of shit white people give standing ovations to in public. So enjoy being communists guys, I'll enjoy my free drinks and free money.
I'm sorry you're in a position - or feel you're in a position where you must either compromise your principles for a better life for you and your family or continue to endure some of the worst kind of unsustainable work available.
Good luck to you and your family.
727Goon
14th June 2011, 00:22
Homie, totally serious, the Army is a bullshit career field. You might run a good chance of ending up homeless or worse.
Fuck communism, have some fucking internally colonized person common sense. The armed forces give a fuck about the brown/black/whatever man in this country, and happily chew the internally colonized up and spit them out.
There has to be better options for you, the military is just plain fucking stupid.
I mean I was gonna try to take community college classes to be a paramedic but working while just trying to graduate was hard enough, college classes will kill me if I'm working full time. I mean yeah your right that in the end this has to do with racism and the military is probably chomping at the bit for people in my situation to enlist but it really is the only way out of working shit jobs. Even when I was working full time and I had a place to stay without paying rent or utilities I could barely afford to literally put food on the table and get clothes and other basic amenities. I mean that's some bum shit right there, plus working fast food jobs is the most aggravating shit ever, I think jumping out of planes and shooting guns or whatever would be way better than that shit. I can't think of any other way to actually get a career rather than a job, and once I actually have to start paying bills I'm gonna be FUCKED if I don't join up.
727Goon
14th June 2011, 00:27
I'm sorry you're in a position - or feel you're in a position where you must either compromise your principles for a better life for you and your family or continue to endure some of the worst kind of unsustainable work available.
Good luck to you and your family.
Thanks man but honestly I'm not looking for sympathy. I mean lets be real most of you guys would celebrate my death and when it comes down to that I guess that's having principles and respectable. I just want to explain why I can no longer in good faith call myself a communist. Maybe in 4 years if I don't get brainwashed by their bullshit.
Property Is Robbery
14th June 2011, 00:28
Join the Army, but know that they don't give a fuck about you.
http://www.answercoalition.org/march-forward/statements/mother-of-sgt-kirkland.html
He was berated and called a pussy after attempting suicide twice.
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 00:29
I understand those frustrations, but I don't think you'll find life as an enlisted man much better. Most military families are on food stamps, etc. pretty hard.
In the meantime, I recommend getting on food stamps if you haven't already. I've been on them for a little under a year and they help out a lot. Since you were fired, you probably have a right to unemployment, take that shit as well. There's a lot of money that you can grab to keep you in food and shelter for a while.
The military is not the right choice. Not because of "supporting imperialism" or whatever, the military keeps its members poor and desperate, I don't know if you've ever lived around a base town but that shit is a hard fucking life and as an enlisted man chances are you're not going to be making any real money.
Go down to the unemployment office, go to human services, and figure out what you can do so you can have some dignity (they will try and take it from you, but dealing with social workers and etc. is way better than dealing with military bullshit). You have to advocate for yourself.
Property Is Robbery
14th June 2011, 00:31
most of you guys would celebrate my death
I'd hope not
Catmatic Leftist
14th June 2011, 00:36
I agree with Franz Fanonipants with pretty much everything he's said.
Also, at least by going on food stamps and working at a fast food chain, you'd get to see your daughter every time you come home, or at least every once in a while. By joining the army and having to fight overseas, you may not be able to see your daughter at all for even years. You'd be better providing for your daughter by being around to see her. It can really fuck up a child's life to see one of their parents missing. I lived in a single-parent home for a majority of my life and I can attest that it was very stressful on me to not have my father around.
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 00:38
p.s. you'd be surprised at how much a full-time job will make you WANT to go back to school.
take a few classes here and there, it's not a waste of money to learn how to write an essay, network with professors, and shit. social climbing obviously is kind of taboo in this forum, but fuck that, survive and thrive comrade.
Catmatic Leftist
14th June 2011, 00:42
p.s. you'd be surprised at how much a full-time job will make you WANT to go back to school.
take a few classes here and there, it's not a waste of money to learn how to write an essay, network with professors, and shit. social climbing obviously is kind of taboo in this forum, but fuck that, survive and thrive comrade.
I thought striving for a better job was okay as long as the job doesn't put you in a position where you're exploiting people via means of production?
727Goon
14th June 2011, 00:44
I understand those frustrations, but I don't think you'll find life as an enlisted man much better. Most military families are on food stamps, etc. pretty hard.
In the meantime, I recommend getting on food stamps if you haven't already. I've been on them for a little under a year and they help out a lot. Since you were fired, you probably have a right to unemployment, take that shit as well. There's a lot of money that you can grab to keep you in food and shelter for a while.
The military is not the right choice. Not because of "supporting imperialism" or whatever, the military keeps its members poor and desperate, I don't know if you've ever lived around a base town but that shit is a hard fucking life and as an enlisted man chances are you're not going to be making any real money.
Go down to the unemployment office, go to human services, and figure out what you can do so you can have some dignity (they will try and take it from you, but dealing with social workers and etc. is way better than dealing with military bullshit). You have to advocate for yourself.
Yeah I've tried to stay away from food stamps and all of that out of pride and because my girls mom is really supportive. Actually you're probably right about military families being broke, come to think of it I get this impression that soldiers have a ton of money to blow but I'm just looking at dudes I know and they're all single and having beer money for the weekends isnt exactly gonna support a family. I probably am gonna get unemployment, and I might try to wait it out this summer, but I made the mistake of talking to a recruiter and now hes been blowing up my phone. I mean idk it just seems so easy to go into the army and have a career that somewhat interests me where I could actually make a difference (putting politics aside and all that as a medic I would get to save lives and that's really appealing) compared to going out and putting all this effort in to get a job I hate making burgers for fat people.
☭The Revolution☭
14th June 2011, 00:44
Good. We need agents inside the military.
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 00:45
Good. We need agents inside the military.
Man, shut the fuck up.
Catmatic Leftist
14th June 2011, 00:46
Good. We need agents inside the military.
You're not helping. :closedeyes:
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 00:48
Yeah I've tried to stay away from food stamps and all of that out of pride and because my girls mom is really supportive. Actually you're probably right about military families being broke, come to think of it I get this impression that soldiers have a ton of money to blow but I'm just looking at dudes I know and they're all single and having beer money for the weekends isnt exactly gonna support a family. I probably am gonna get unemployment, and I might try to wait it out this summer, but I made the mistake of talking to a recruiter and now hes been blowing up my phone. I mean idk it just seems so easy to go into the army and have a career that somewhat interests me where I could actually make a difference (putting politics aside and all that as a medic I would get to save lives and that's really appealing) compared to going out and putting all this effort in to get a job I hate making burgers for fat people.
The thing is, dude, that's how they hook poor people. That's exactly how they do it, now I'm not saying you won't become a medic, but the army doesn't give a shit about people it recruits, not really.
Federal assistance is good, that's what government is there for. Food stamps are going to help out with a big chunk of your financial insecurity, or they do for me. Having a full refrigerator makes a huge fucking difference even though I owe money to basically everyone.
Catmatic Leftist
14th June 2011, 00:53
Yeah I've tried to stay away from food stamps and all of that out of pride and because my girls mom is really supportive. Actually you're probably right about military families being broke, come to think of it I get this impression that soldiers have a ton of money to blow but I'm just looking at dudes I know and they're all single and having beer money for the weekends isnt exactly gonna support a family. I probably am gonna get unemployment, and I might try to wait it out this summer, but I made the mistake of talking to a recruiter and now hes been blowing up my phone. I mean idk it just seems so easy to go into the army and have a career that somewhat interests me where I could actually make a difference (putting politics aside and all that as a medic I would get to save lives and that's really appealing) compared to going out and putting all this effort in to get a job I hate making burgers for fat people.
IMO, fuck image. I don't think what people think about you matters if basic survival needs are an issue. Do what you have to. I just don't think joining the Army would rectify your situation.
Manic Impressive
14th June 2011, 00:54
Yeah I've tried to stay away from food stamps and all of that out of pride
LoL you won't take food stamps because of pride but you're more than happy to go kill brown folks for the boss man. Nice principles you have there you fucking idiot.:lol:
Dunk
14th June 2011, 00:56
I understand those frustrations, but I don't think you'll find life as an enlisted man much better. Most military families are on food stamps, etc. pretty hard.
In the meantime, I recommend getting on food stamps if you haven't already. I've been on them for a little under a year and they help out a lot. Since you were fired, you probably have a right to unemployment, take that shit as well. There's a lot of money that you can grab to keep you in food and shelter for a while.
The military is not the right choice. Not because of "supporting imperialism" or whatever, the military keeps its members poor and desperate, I don't know if you've ever lived around a base town but that shit is a hard fucking life and as an enlisted man chances are you're not going to be making any real money.
Go down to the unemployment office, go to human services, and figure out what you can do so you can have some dignity (they will try and take it from you, but dealing with social workers and etc. is way better than dealing with military bullshit). You have to advocate for yourself.
I knew a lot of people that lived paycheck to paycheck, it's true. But it's also true that the military will basically pay your child support for you in the form of pay for dependents. They'll also put a roof over your head and the head of your family while you're away, and make arrangements for your family to be taken care of while you're away - that is, if they live with you when you're not deployed, and you and your dependents have free healthcare. You even get 100% tuition assistance (up to a certain small amount of money per month, something they purposefully don't tell you, that and that you'll be working so much there isn't a lot of times throughout your enlistment that you'll have the time for school. It is true that they'll pay for school via the GI bill, especially the post 9-11, which you can transfer to dependents after spending 10 or 15 years enlisted. Depending upon where you're stationed, or what unit you're stationed with, you and your family can eat at the galley or receive money for food in the form of specific payments other than your rank salary.
Which is much, much more sinister than what you're suggesting. It's sinister to dangle this much financial security in front of the working poor, because it keeps the working poor coming to the military and staying in once they're there. I don't have any statistics available, but I'm willing to bet my life that people with dependents don't voluntarily discharge nearly as often before retirement as single troops do.
Robocommie
14th June 2011, 00:57
727Goon man, I just want to tell you, no judgement from me here. I can tell your situation is really fucking rough and you feel like you're caught between a rock and a hard place. I know you weren't looking for sympathy, but real talk, I may think joining the Army is a really bad idea but I'd never wish ill on you for doing so. I hope real hard the situation improves for you, and things work out for you and your family.
And honestly dude, I understand the pride issue with food stamps, but don't even let it get to you. There's no shame in taking advantage of what little social programs there are. Remember you had most of your labor value stolen from you when you were working anyway.
727Goon
14th June 2011, 01:00
The thing is, dude, that's how they hook poor people. That's exactly how they do it, now I'm not saying you won't become a medic, but the army doesn't give a shit about people it recruits, not really.
Federal assistance is good, that's what government is there for. Food stamps are going to help out with a big chunk of your financial insecurity, or they do for me. Having a full refrigerator makes a huge fucking difference even though I owe money to basically everyone.
Well yeah the good thing is I don't owe money so I've got that going for me but being on food stamps would help and it probably can't be any more degrading than the Army. Another thing that kind of appeals to me about the army is that there doesnt seem to be as much top down racism. Like I'm sure all the enlisted white people are racist ass inbred redneck fucks but the chain of command is into that whole "There is no black or white just light green and dark green" and the fact is they are the only job offer I'm getting that's blowing up my phone and not vice versa. But yeah I know recruiters are scumbags and you have to get everything they say in writing and all that I may be a sucker for looking at joining but I wont fall for them.
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 01:03
I don't know what shit is like in Florida, where I am there was a pretty hard effort to create an office of "workforce solutions" that coincides with unemployment. If you all have anything like that, it's worth looking into.
727Goon
14th June 2011, 01:10
If that existed Rick Scotts old crazy bald ass probably scrapped it.
Franz Fanonipants
14th June 2011, 01:13
basically fuck florida forever.
but yeah, there's gotta be something. i mean we're all yoked to this shit, but the military is a pretty egregious yoke.
727Goon
14th June 2011, 01:13
727Goon man, I just want to tell you, no judgement from me here. I can tell your situation is really fucking rough and you feel like you're caught between a rock and a hard place. I know you weren't looking for sympathy, but real talk, I may think joining the Army is a really bad idea but I'd never wish ill on you for doing so. I hope real hard the situation improves for you, and things work out for you and your family.
And honestly dude, I understand the pride issue with food stamps, but don't even let it get to you. There's no shame in taking advantage of what little social programs there are. Remember you had most of your labor value stolen from you when you were working anyway.
Thanks man I appreciate it. Like I said it just seems so easy compared to the effort I'd have to put in to find a job that would be even worse. I mean my thing with food stamps isnt even political, it's just like in any society capitalist, communist, whatever, I'm supposed to be a man now and I cant even provide for the most basic needs of myself or the people I care about. It is what it is I guess.
727Goon
14th June 2011, 01:16
basically fuck florida forever.
but yeah, there's gotta be something. i mean we're all yoked to this shit, but the military is a pretty egregious yoke.
I mean working and going to school at the same time is possible, but just the thought of the effort I'd have to put in trying to find another one of these bullshit jobs pisses me off to no end.
Robocommie
14th June 2011, 01:54
Thanks man I appreciate it. Like I said it just seems so easy compared to the effort I'd have to put in to find a job that would be even worse. I mean my thing with food stamps isnt even political, it's just like in any society capitalist, communist, whatever, I'm supposed to be a man now and I cant even provide for the most basic needs of myself or the people I care about. It is what it is I guess.
Absolutely, I understand the feeling. But remember there's lots of folks in your situation, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. The people who really matter aren't going to judge you for doing what you have to do to get by in hard times.
Coach Trotsky
14th June 2011, 02:27
I'm done. I'm joining the fucking Army. Fuck it, I got laid off today and I'm over working at fast food places. I don't give a fuck anymore, even the thought of the time and effort and frustration of applying for yet another job I'll hate pisses me the fuck off. The Army might even be good for me, I'm pretty damn near suicidal right now so I won't catch that PTSD shit since I don't give a fuck. Hell one of the only reasons I keep on living is for my family and guess what if I die that's a shit ton of insurance money to them. Aint that some shit, I'd provide for my daughter better dead than alive. Deployments? Aint no thing, that's just a year away from the drama with my girlfriend. Hell this is gonna be an educational experience, up until pretty recently all men were expected to go to war in most cultures. And if I do my time and am intact and alive at the end I'll get health care and job opportunities and people will think I'm a fucking hero. As for my politics, fuck politics. The fact is the Army will do more for me, the targeted demographic for tokenization in a lot of your two bit communist parties, than communism could. And I mean yeah communism is a good idea, but capitalism looks good in theory too, and I'm sure communism would have it's fair share of problems if it were ever implemented. If any of you ever meet me and we start talking politics and you start saying all that communist shit, I'll just say something really snide and stupid like "Enjoy your freedom of speech. I'll foot the bill". You and I will both know that thats fucking dumb, but luckily for me like 90 percent of Americans are retarded as fuck so I'll win by popularity. That's the kind of shit white people give standing ovations to in public. So enjoy being communists guys, I'll enjoy my free drinks and free money.
Once you get finished fantasizing about what the Army recruiter told you, and you decide that you'd better reconsider real social solutions instead of individual short-term "getting by" solutions, let me know. You aren't really looking for the Army answer. You don't even mean half the crap you posted above...this stuff is expressing your despair about your precarious personal circumstances (and you know you ain't the one one in that boat) and your frustration and disillusionment in "the Left" (again, you ain't the only one in that boat). You are thinking that you can simply sell out for your own individual sake (and by the way, that includes selling out the whole Black nation for your self interests).
Is that really what you want? Is that really all you are? Are you really ready and willing to become everything you have ever accused "whitey" of being and doing? Because if you make this decision for the reasons you stated above, and you justify it to yourself and others in this way, you can never ever again honestly say that you are somehow doing better for workers and any oppressed people then what "whitey" does when he sides with this system for his own individual sake.
Can't you see that the choice you are considering is exactly the sort of choice that this system wants people like you to make? Can't you see that there is NO winning in this shell game of various fucked-up options under capitalism? Don't give in. Don't give up. Don't sell out everything and everyone that is important to you (including yourself).
You are a black man who cares about your family, who has a child daughter, who knows that this system is fucked up, who knows that we need to fight against this system, who knows that this system (and both its Left and Right wings) doesn't give a fuck about working people of any ethnicity except to the degree that they can exploit and use them, who knows that they is only a barbaric present and even worse future course for the vast majority of us, who know that you COULD choice to live for and fight for the full liberation of humanity...but are you going to instead choose suicide or the Army and some pipedream individual fantasy about "getting ahead" in this system? Goddamnit, push those bullshit system choices off the table. Stop trying to pick one of the shells put before you in this shell game. Stop selling yourself and everyone and everything you care about short. Do you want to really know what lies underneath each of those shells? A label lies underneath, in bold lettering, with one word, that starts with an "N" (yes, you know what that word is), and if you choose any of these shells placed in front of you by this system, you make that label seem true, and you will not be genuinely seen as any sort of "hero" by anyone who knows you and cares about you (they know you know better, and they will be fucking disappointed in your pathetic sellout), let alone by anyone else. And any praise you do happen to get, any money and drinks and women and anything else you do happen to get, you will know that in reality what is being said to you by this system is "good n-----r". You will know that it is actually is your 30 shekels of silver for being a Judas, and you will know that everyone else around knows it too, and if you try to posture radical or progressive in any way thereafter, you will only compound that view of yourself.
Get off of your knees. You ain't nobody's "n----r", unless you let them make you one instead of fighting back and living for the end of this system and the liberation of all the workers and oppressed. Are you seriously going to let your enemies win, by choosing suicide or the Army or some other bullshit shell in their game? Or are you going to do what you know you could and should do, and what you are capable of doing...are you gonna live for a better liberated tomorrow and make a fight against this system today? It ain't some egghead theoretical question...it is about what you are going to do with your life, and what you are living for.
PM me, if you can. These shells out in front of you are not your only options. The things you said in the OP are not your only choices. Talk to me, let me know that you don't really want those things you said in the OP to be your only options and to express to real essence of your life, and I'll try to help you find better alternatives. You have the steering wheel, the gears, the accelerator and the brakes under your control, and you will determine where you end up. I'm just offering to help turn on the lights, break out the map, and help navigate...and I ain't promising any easy short cuts or a smooth ride along the way nor that I have all the answers (because I don't). I will NOT treat you like a token, because I don't want or need any fucking tokens and you really don't want to be one nor need to be one, and fuck anyone who would accept that or treat anyone like that.
I'm not some typical Leftist. I was in the Army for over 6 years, and I'm a combat vet who was deployed in Iraq twice. Seriously, talk to me. I'm no stranger to any of the things you said in the OP. Regrettably, in circumstances and with illusions similar to that which you described in the OP, I made the Army choice you are considering now. There's more to the picture then you're allowing yourself to see right now. In my case, no one was there to tell me what I'm trying to communicate to you, no one was telling me that I could and should push these bullshit options aside and fight for what I know is right instead and NOT give up, and no one was there to help me practically figure out how I could actually do that. I looked at the Left one more time, saw how fucked up it was, and said "fuck it" like you are saying now and joined the Army, instead of making the fight against this system and replacing it the central essence of my life, and seeking to regenerate and regroup and re-engage and re-inspire every single working class person I could who hates this system, hates the shitty options offered by it to people like us, and wants to fight back. You don't have to make that mistake. You don't have to settle for this shit. You don't have to get on your knees and submit. The people around you need you NOT to make this mistake and thus provide the wrong example to them.
black magick hustla
15th June 2011, 01:08
1) get some student loans from the government.
2) go to community college, learn a trade.
3) continue working shitjobs for two more years.
4) get on food stamps
its harder said than done. and its way harder if you have a family. but you can be making from a trade off the bat 25 dollars an hour.
Kamos
15th June 2011, 15:06
One Army apologist less.
hatzel
15th June 2011, 15:32
One Army apologist less.
I'm pretty sure we covered this on the first page, but yeah, carry on being a complete tool, whatever :)
Kamos
15th June 2011, 19:33
I'm pretty sure we covered this on the first page, but yeah, carry on being a complete tool, whatever :)
...and one more. Damn!
La Comédie Noire
17th June 2011, 07:52
If you gotta do it man. I say do it.
LegendZ
18th June 2011, 20:51
It's your decision. But if you are going at least do something that could get you a semi-decent job. If you do change your mind before you get sent off remember. YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND.
1. While in DEP if you change your mind all you have to do is make a letter saying why you changed your mind and give it to your recruiter. It should be approved in a second. If not see 2.
2. Remember this. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO BASIC/BOOT/WHATEVER. You will suffer no consequences. No police will come after you, you won't go to military jail, nothing. It won't affect future employment, application, college ect. You're recruiter might bug you but that's about it.
Take what I said and think about it. I'm not here to sway you either way. Just know that once you go. You just signed away 3/4 years of your life.
727Goon
19th June 2011, 07:42
Thanks everyone for being a lot cooler and helpful than I expected. As things stand right now I've cooled down and am looking for another job and I guess I'm just gonna try to work my way through EMT and paramedic school. The military initially looked like an easy out from all this bullshit but I think I'll just end up substituting one set of problems for another. Anyways I'd like to apologize to you guys for this emo ass rant, I think I probably have depression or some shit and I cant afford medication or a gym membership anymore so I guess I gotta let off some steam here from time to time.
Leftsolidarity
19th June 2011, 08:02
I understand those frustrations, but I don't think you'll find life as an enlisted man much better. Most military families are on food stamps, etc. pretty hard.
In the meantime, I recommend getting on food stamps if you haven't already. I've been on them for a little under a year and they help out a lot. Since you were fired, you probably have a right to unemployment, take that shit as well. There's a lot of money that you can grab to keep you in food and shelter for a while.
The military is not the right choice. Not because of "supporting imperialism" or whatever, the military keeps its members poor and desperate, I don't know if you've ever lived around a base town but that shit is a hard fucking life and as an enlisted man chances are you're not going to be making any real money.
Go down to the unemployment office, go to human services, and figure out what you can do so you can have some dignity (they will try and take it from you, but dealing with social workers and etc. is way better than dealing with military bullshit). You have to advocate for yourself.
This person has it right. You really should listen to him for you and your family. But best of luck either way, I know a lot of people going into the military because they are in your situation.
brigadista
19th June 2011, 10:49
good luck goon :)
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