The Curse of Fat Cat Killer

[Aurora]

I presume you all remember FCK and his glorious exposing of the trendy wankers in this thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/ira-take-community-t146088/index.html?

Well apparently that thread is cursed! :scared:
Take a look:

The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Fat Cat Killer For This Useful Post:
costello1977, IronEastBloc, joseluizfernandinhoperaz, Mannimarco, Palingenisis, Quarterback, red cat, Spawn of Stalin, The Red Next Door

Look out Spawn of Stalin!

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

A Trotskyite curse. :lol:

[Sasha]

In b4 anarcho-trot conspiracy

[Kamos]

Anarcho-trot conspiracy!

[La Comédie Noire]

I think your fingers are just to fat to reply right on the keyboard. :lol:

[Red Future]

Never did find out why Costello was banned anyway

[Tablo]

Only two remain.. ;)

[Aurora]

Quarterback is already showing the signs, we've had to quarantine him in OI.

I don't think it's too late to save Spawn of Stalin perhaps we should call The Doctor? if we don't do it soon we'll need a Rabbi.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I'm not going anywhere but I would argue that there probably is a conspiracy going on

[Spawn of Stalin]

I'll be like "the one who survived". Like Harry Potter but infinitely more worthy of "bad motherfucker" status

[Tablo]

I think Quarterback has a better chance of surviving since OI in general has much lower expectations..

[Spawn of Stalin]

I'll make a believer out of you. I think I do a pretty good job of knowing when to bail out before being baited into saying something that might get me warned or whatever

[Tablo]

Well, you've made it this long. Hopefully you won't make any slips of tongue.

[Robocommie]

I'll be like "the one who survived". Like Harry Potter but infinitely more worthy of "bad motherfucker" status

Bro weren't you the one giving me shit over the Lord of the Rings reference?


I'll make a believer out of you. I think I do a pretty good job of knowing when to bail out before being baited into saying something that might get me warned or whatever

...so I hear you like Trotsky. ;)

[Luís Henrique]

Well apparently that thread is cursed! :scared:

I don't know if it is cursed, but it makes me wonder about the overlapping between rape apologists and supporters of genital mutilation of rapists.

Luís Henrique

[caramelpence]

I don't know if it is cursed, but it makes me wonder about the overlapping between rape apologists and supporters of genital mutilation of rapists.

Luís Henrique

It's like a sort of Hegelian triad. Rape apologism - support for genital mutilation of rapists - Stalinism. The apparent contradiction between rape apologism and genital mutilation is overcome in a way that preserves the essences of both thesis and antithesis. The product of the Aufhebung is Stalinism.

[JustMovement]

arent you the guy that was outraged about people taking rape to lightly in the other thread?

[caramelpence]

arent you the guy that was outraged about people taking rape to lightly in the other thread?

Yes, and, despite the mocking tone of my last post, I'm actually not surprised or amused by the fact that Stalinists manage to apologize for rape on the one hand and support vigilante mutilation on the other. Their entire political discourse is underpinned by a fetishization of violence and domination. Whilst I think that there are other leftists who hold views that are different from my own and extremely problematic (for example, Anarchists, who I find to be theoretically impoverished in crucial respects) I can still recognize them as members of the same political tradition as myself in that they too exhibit a commitment to an emancipatory society, whereas, with Stalinists, I cannot detect this basic commitment - the imagery and language of Stalinist states and organizations have no sense of human sensibility and community being enhanced in a different society, no sense of human beings becoming softer and kinder towards their fellows, there is only violence, hatred, and the eternal identification of enemies in order that they might be made to suffer and be destroyed.

[Il Medico]

Quarterback is already showing the signs, we've had to quarantine him in OI.

I don't think it's too late to save Spawn of Stalin perhaps we should call The Doctor? if we don't do it soon we'll need a Rabbi.
I'm afraid you'll have to call the Rabbi anyways. The patient is terminal. I'm actually surprised he's lasted this long.

[Robocommie]

I cannot detect this basic commitment - the imagery and language of Stalinist states and organizations have no sense of human sensibility and community being enhanced in a different society, no sense of human beings becoming softer and kinder towards their fellows, there is only violence, hatred, and the eternal identification of enemies in order that they might be made to suffer and be destroyed.

I'll be totally honest in a way I'm usually not; while I consider myself slightly more Marxist-Leninist than anything else (only slightly) I do get seriously disgusted and off-put by the general tough guy attitude and apparent bloodthirstiness of a lot of Stalinists. Not everyone, just a lot.

At the same time though, you know what I've begun to note as a seriously common thread of all leftist factions? The general tendency to dehumanize and ascribe the very worst possible characteristics to everyone else. I've participated in it myself, I'll admit, but it's getting wearying. I find it astounding that so many people who are supposed to be on the same side of the political question, on the Left, supporting the idea of socialism, supporting the theories of the SAME philosopher, Karl Marx, we still find ways to hate one another more than we seem to hate capitalists. There's almost no willingness, on any side, to extend anyone any benefit of the doubt that we all generally want to see a better, more just world, even if we disagree on how to bring it about.

The inability to get any kind of consensus on these issues quite frankly undermines, on a daily basis, my confidence in the feasibility of world Marxist revolution.

[Aurora]

hmm this thread seems to have taken a more serious turn. So in line with that,


Yes, and, despite the mocking tone of my last post, I'm actually not surprised or amused by the fact that Stalinists manage to apologize for rape on the one hand and support vigilante mutilation on the other. Their entire political discourse is underpinned by a fetishization of violence and domination.
I think it's a bit unfair to lump all the Stalinists in together, even within the OP of the thread i linked too only 2 of those who thanked the post were banned for rape apologism, theres no way to know what the others positions would have been and it's perhaps unreasonable to speculate.
Also there are plenty of Stalinists on the board who have a completely different discourse, some that come to mind are every single member of the NCPN and CJB, the WPNZ stalinists when there were some here and the PSL who i'd deem stalinists today at least from what there members post here.

At least some of the reason a disproportionate amount of Stalinists get banned is because their trolls, it's much easier to fuck around on a forum and get a reaction from people if you say your a Stalinist.

[Sasha]

i think the CJB/NCPN people here are the exact difference between actual marxist-leninists and stalinists.
its like the difference between eco-anarchists and primmies.
they might be related and i might think they are both wrong but there is an profound difference between them which makes me that i have eco-anarchists under my best friends while every primmie i meet i want to bash their skulls together to see if i can make fire that way.

BTW; the PSL crowd i would more describe as knee-jerk fundamentalist anti-imps than stalinists and are in an related but separate category of their own

[Spawn of Stalin]

I think it's a bit unfair to lump all the Stalinists in together, even within the OP of the thread i linked too only 2 of those who thanked the post were banned for rape apologism, theres no way to know what the others positions would have been and it's perhaps unreasonable to speculate.
Word. Most unreasonable. Everybody here knows I am the exact opposite of a rape apologist.

And yeah what did happen to the WPNZ posters? They were some of the most reasonable people here and they just kind of disappeared:confused:

[Chimurenga.]

the PSL who i'd deem stalinists today at least from what there members post here.

Despite the fact that we come from the Trotskyist tradition and read Trotsky, we're still Stalinists. LOL, ok.

That word has really been stripped of any meaning.

[Aurora]

I'm not going anywhere
Clearly you didn't take the curse seriously :p

Goodnight sweet prince.

[Obs]

Holy shit, I was on page 1 of this thread, and Spawn of Stalin wasn't banned, then went on another tab for like five minutes, come back and go to page 2, and POOF! Banned.

Fucking scary.

[Agent Ducky]

Oh shit that is scary. Wtf happened here?

[L.A.P.]

Spawn of Stalin deliberately went out like a dramatic horror movie character, guess he thought it was worth the ban.

[Manic Impressive]

heh I thought they were a she seeing as they used to be WonderWoman666

[L.A.P.]

heh I thought they were a she seeing as they used to be WonderWoman666

I thought as well until he referred to himself as a guy.

[Tablo]

This curse stuff is creepy. Now only Quarterback remains...

[hatzel]

This curse stuff is creepy. Now only Quarterback remains...

Let's see what happens with that, then...we should have some kind of competition. You know, everybody picks a week (17-23 July, for example), and then we wait to see when Quarterback gets banned and then of course whoever guessed that week wins...I've made my call, by the way, 17-23 July :lol:

[Sasha]

guess i'm excluded from playing :D

[L.A.P.]

You're the referee.

[Kamos]

Err... 27-03 June-July.

[Sasha]

i'm corrupt though :D

[Manic Impressive]

Quarterback should be unrestricted he said something stupid about abortion once and has since renounced those views. He doesn't troll and isn't a soc-dem, Free QB.

[Omsk]

That thread was a massacre and i bet at least 10 people got banned. (Red Army,Rape,Berlin thread)

And i am pretty sure that a lot of "Stalinist's" were not rape apologists.(In that thread)

[scarletghoul]

:blink: that is quite alarming

[Omsk]

Why was IronEastBloc banned?

[Buitraker]

You are the next

[Sam_b]

Why was IronEastBloc banned?

Because he was a fool.

[Omsk]

Because he was a fool.
Oh well.


You are the next

I follow the rules and all..:(

[L.A.P.]

Quarterback should be unrestricted he said something stupid about abortion once and has since renounced those views. He doesn't troll and isn't a soc-dem, Free QB.

Fuck that, ban him so we can keep the curse going.

[L.A.P.]

banned Quarterback
reason: The curse of Fat Cat Killer

You should totally do that.

[hatzel]

I dare anybody here to go back and thank that post...feeling brave? Up for chancing fate?

[Agent Ducky]

I dare anybody here to go back and thank that post...feeling brave? Up for chancing fate?

It's no longer thankable due to age. Trust me, I tried it.

[Sasha]

You should totally do that.


dont know if i could do that to quarterback, especially since he probably was the only one who thanked that post out of sarcasm.

going back in the admin-action logs and change all the stated ban reasons for the others on the other hand... :rolleyes:

[hatzel]

It's no longer thankable due to age. Trust me, I tried it.

http://img.phombo.com/img1/photocombo/6774/cache/BraveryStupidity_display.jpg

:rolleyes:

[Sasha]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/7/4/1d04c884-5795-4fcf-a9e8-7d021f9e4779.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cjgTlJW5fOE/TLJbZsqMqeI/AAAAAAAAA8A/9mR9yOZOzLI/s640/stupid.jpg

[Tablo]

dont know if i could do that to quarterback, especially since he probably was the only one who thanked that post out of sarcasm.

going back in the admin-action logs and change all the stated ban reasons for the others on the other hand... :rolleyes:
Yes, please!

[L.A.P.]

going back in the admin-action logs and change all the stated ban reasons for the others on the other hand... :rolleyes:

Have a little fun and edit those posts to the 2nd reason of their banning being "The Curse of Fat Cat Killer".

[L.A.P.]

I dare anybody here to go back and thank that post...feeling brave? Up for chancing fate?

As materialists we should not give in to such superstitions.....oh that's right, you're religious so never mind.:lol:

[Tablo]

I went back to thank it, but the thread is too old. :(

[Os Cangaceiros]

I miss Fat Cat Killer a lot. He was one of my favorite posters.

Who will keep the trendy wankers in line now? :crying:

[Tablo]

I miss Fat Cat Killer a lot. He was one of my favorite posters.

Who will keep the trendy wankers in line now? :crying:
Indeed. We've lost a lot of good members to this curse.

[L.A.P.]

Indeed. We've lost a lot of good members to this curse.

We've lost a lot of good members in general. Widerstand, Rosa, Zeekloid, Spawn of Stalin, red cat, Comrade Wolfie, Nolan, Dimento, and many others I don't even remember exist anymore.

[El Oso Rojo]

Despite the fact that we come from the Trotskyist tradition and read Trotsky, we're still Stalinists. LOL, ok.

That word has really been stripped of any meaning.

they are Marxist Leninist, hush.:)

[Tablo]

We've lost a lot of good members in general. Widerstand, Rosa, Zeekloid, Spawn of Stalin, red cat, Comrade Wolfie, Nolan, Dimento, and many others I don't even remember exist anymore.
Makes me depressed. It seems like more high profile members have been banned/left the site recently than normal.

[scarletghoul]

Yeah I came back and was like "where is everyone"

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

they are Marxist Leninist, hush.:)

Isn't the Party of Socialism and Liberation technically Marcyist?

[Obs]

Isn't the Party of Socialism and Liberation technically Marcyist?
The PSL, as I understand it, ranges across a wide spectrum of Leninist tendencies. This has both pros and cons; it allows for a large, ideologically diverse movement, but tolerance of less informed lines of Leninist thought also leads to, for instance, their rather unfortunate stance on China.

[hatzel]

We've lost a lot of good members in general. Widerstand, Rosa, Zeekloid, Spawn of Stalin, red cat, Comrade Wolfie, Nolan, Dimento, and many others I don't even remember exist anymore.

No offense or anything, but I think it's pretty clear that only some of those members are / were good :thumbup1:

[Lyev]

I am guessing Nolan went for trolling, but what about Dimentio? They had like 12,000+ posts or something crazy.

[Obs]

I am guessing Nolan went for trolling, but what about Dimentio? They had like 12,000+ posts or something crazy.
Dimentio asked to be banned.

[Tablo]

What is up with all the requested bannings? I understand why a lot of people have been banned, but I don't understand why people are asking to be banned so much.

[hatzel]

What is up with all the requested bannings?

Pretty much we're all so awesome that they feel like shit by comparison so they flee to save their self-esteem...

[danyboy27]

if he remove his name, he will be saved.....

''running fast trought the oi to warn the guy''

[L.A.P.]

What is up with all the requested bannings? I understand why a lot of people have been banned, but I don't understand why people are asking to be banned so much.

The way this forum is being ran is getting increasingly shitty, and not in the nostalgic way. When will we have some new admins for god's sake? Can we ever get a change? How the hell are the admins supposed to get voted out anyway and who makes that decision?

[danyboy27]

The way this forum is being ran is getting increasingly shitty, and not in the nostalgic way. When will we have some new admins for god's sake? Can we ever get a change? How the hell are the admins supposed to get voted out anyway and who makes that decision?


no its not shitty.
quiet now.

[Obs]

The way this forum is being ran is getting increasingly shitty, and not in the nostalgic way. When will we have some new admins for god's sake? Can we ever get a change? How the hell are the admins supposed to get voted out anyway and who makes that decision?
You haven't even been here a year, what are you gonna feel nostalgic about?

[L.A.P.]

You haven't even been here a year, what are you gonna feel nostalgic about?

That was kind of my point, I said "not in the nostalgic way" because I haven't been here long enough to even be nostalgic.

[ZeroNowhere]

Can we ever get a change?
Yes, and hope too, if you help to make me Admin.

Make me your king,
I can rule with an iron hand.


What is up with all the requested bannings?It's fashionable. People do strange things for fashion.

[Tablo]

The way this forum is being ran is getting increasingly shitty, and not in the nostalgic way. When will we have some new admins for god's sake? Can we ever get a change? How the hell are the admins supposed to get voted out anyway and who makes that decision?
I don't think that is true. I feel like, in many ways, the forum is being run well by dedicated older members that really know what they are doing. Not to say they haven't made poor decisions in the past. I think the drop in quality has been the loss of some good longtime members over the past year.

[Manic Impressive]

I think the quality of the forum has diminished over the last few months but I'm glad to see some of the mods being stricter on spam. The whole forum was becoming chit chat


When will we have some new admins for god's sake? Can we ever get a change? How the hell are the admins supposed to get voted out anyway and who makes that decision?
I was thinking it might be a good thing if admins served fixed terms say like 9 months. I don't know how many there are at the moment but say if there's 10 and 10 mods and then another 10 CU's who could be trusted to be mods you could have a round robin type system to prevent anyone being a mod/admin for too long. From what I've heard from ex admins is that occasionally they suffer a bit of fatigue from having there inboxs filled with people moaning, etc. Making them take a break every now and then might help them to do their job better.

[L.A.P.]

Yes, and hope too, if you help to make me Admin.

Make me your king,
I can rule with an iron hand.


I have to be a committed user first. Catch my drift?;)

[L.A.P.]

I think the drop in quality has been the loss of some good longtime members over the past year.

Is this usual or is it just this year that so many established members not only just left but got themselves banned?

[Tablo]

Is this usual or is it just this year that so many established members not only just left but got themselves banned?
Well, longtime members have been banned in the past, but it seems to be happening more lately. I've only been a member for a couple of years so I can't really say anything about the site before I joined.

[danyboy27]

Is this usual or is it just this year that so many established members not only just left but got themselves banned?


yea its amazing how much time trolls and reactionaries can remain on a forum beccause they are popular and admired.

[Bright Banana Beard]

the forum been shittier, fo sure.

[ZeroNowhere]

I have to be a committed user first. Catch my drift?;)Well played. There would be some technical issues with that at the moment, though.

[Martin Blank]

Well-liked members come and go. Sometimes they go at their accord, and sometimes they have to be shown the door. It's been like this for years, and it's common on any forum with a lot of participants. I've seen a lot of members I liked (and didn't like) go one of these two ways. It's inevitable, as is the associated whining about the forum being worse than it was. Trolls become well-liked because they're amusing or seemingly bold. Demagogues get well-liked because they act like trolls. And everyone appears to like a member with a martyr complex.

If people don't like it here in our little reading room and discussion hall, there is nothing holding you back from going somewhere else. All we as admins and moderators ask of you is that, in exchange for the privilege of being here, you follow the rules. That's all. Those rules are a result of years of practical experience on this forum, not administrative fiat, and should be recognized as such.

Also, if you think the level of discussion has gone down, then raise it yourself. Spend more time in the other forums writing poignant shit instead of making threads in Chit-Chat complaining about the quality of the other forums. You all don't need a theoretical "Moses" (read: demagogue) to make your discussions better, do you?

[ZeroNowhere]

Miles, you just made the forum better with that post. Now I can't whine about it being irredeemable and disgusting any more. Drat.

[Martin Blank]

Miles, you just made the forum better with that post. Now I can't whine about it being irredeemable and disgusting any more. Drat.

http://www.reece-eu.net/gallery/var/albums/funny/i-see-what-you-did-there-house.jpg?m=1272635605

[L.A.P.]

Well played. There would be some technical issues with that at the moment, though.

I feel like if I asked you wouldn't be able to tell me what those technical problems are.

[Zanthorus]

I feel like if I asked you wouldn't be able to tell me what those technical problems are.

CotR's response (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2157221&postcount=6) to the last person who inquired was to PM them so if you want to know what the issues with you becoming a CU right now would be you should probably PM an admin.

[Imposter Marxist]

I'd like to be put on the list of "likes" Itried to, but it didnt give me the option at the time. ):