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Hydrogen_Catalyst
12th June 2011, 04:57
Does discrimination based on social class still exist in our civilized and postmodern society?
Does class discrimination still exist?
If two senior managers of a Fortune 500 company were forced to work alongside a uniformed Mcdonalds entry level employee on a project, do you think they would "look down" on him or her?
If you go to an elite country club in a 2003 Toyota Corolla will you be laughed at?
What if a bunch of inner city kids visit a private school on the greens?
Or if a woman brings a mechanic boyfriend to a fortune 500 father?
I need examples refuting the idea that discrimination based on class does not exist. I don't think any of the ideas above are accurate.
I don't think there are class differences and personal responsibility is what makes you successful, so it is hard for me to come up with examples of class discrimination.
Where better to find examples than here? lol
cu247
12th June 2011, 05:37
In my city it is pretty usual for the private school kids to look down and to insult public school kids. It is a current situation.
That might be an example. I'm sure other Revlefters will be more useful than me. But I tell you, class distrmination still exists.
Rusty Shackleford
12th June 2011, 05:46
Does discrimination based on social class still exist in our civilized and postmodern society?
Does class discrimination still exist?
If two senior managers of a Fortune 500 company were forced to work alongside a uniformed Mcdonalds entry level employee on a project, do you think they would "look down" on him or her?
If you go to an elite country club in a 2003 Toyota Corolla will you be laughed at?
What if a bunch of inner city kids visit a private school on the greens?
Or if a woman brings a mechanic boyfriend to a fortune 500 father?
I need examples refuting the idea that discrimination based on class does not exist. I don't think any of the ideas above are accurate.
I don't think there are class differences and personal responsibility is what makes you successful, so it is hard for me to come up with examples of class discrimination.
Where better to find examples than here? lol
what you just posted are basically the best pop-examples of classism. think of it. In movies and television, its always funny to see a guy in a shitty car go to a rich mans place.
what is your first reaction to all of these scenarios?
of course the hypothetical right men are going to have problems with working along side the mcdonalds worker. they are "leaders" and mcdonalds workers are burger flippers.
Catmatic Leftist
12th June 2011, 06:00
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Hydrogen_Catalyst
12th June 2011, 06:11
The way I see it, manners and dressing in accordance to the situation to make a stellar first impression is the great equalizer to any deterministic class discrimination that could take place.
The way you dress, act and speak are statements you make about yourself to the world in general.
For the most part, well groomed mannerly individuals, ones with pleasant demeanors are not discriminated against. The equalizer to class discrimination is consideration for others and manners, in my opinion anyway. That is my initial reaction to those scenarios.
I don't see the relevance of the monkey pictures. Seems pretty non-sequitur. I believe in Darwin's theory of evolution if that is what you are trying to stab at. The predictions of the evolution model match the real-world data available to us at this time.
Rusty Shackleford
12th June 2011, 06:12
The way I see it, manners and dressing in accordance to the situation to make a stellar first impression is the great equalizer to any deterministic class discrimination that could take place.
The way you dress, act and speak are statements you make about yourself to the world in general.
For the most part, well groomed mannerly individuals, ones with pleasant demeanors are not discriminated against. The equalizer to class discrimination is consideration for others and manners, in my opinion anyway. That is my initial reaction to those scenarios.
I don't see the relevance of the monkey pictures. Seems pretty non-sequitur. I believe in Darwin's theory of evolution if that is what you are trying to stab at. The predictions of the evolution model match the real-world data available to us at this time.
you mean ape
#FF0000
12th June 2011, 07:33
Who is more likely to die of an abscess tooth because they don't have access to adequate medical care: a poor person or a rich person?
Yup, class still matters.
There's also that habit of leaving homeless patients out on the street that some hospitals have.
Leftsolidarity
12th June 2011, 08:19
The way I see it, manners and dressing in accordance to the situation to make a stellar first impression is the great equalizer to any deterministic class discrimination that could take place.
The way you dress, act and speak are statements you make about yourself to the world in general.
For the most part, well groomed mannerly individuals, ones with pleasant demeanors are not discriminated against. The equalizer to class discrimination is consideration for others and manners, in my opinion anyway. That is my initial reaction to those scenarios.
I don't see the relevance of the monkey pictures. Seems pretty non-sequitur. I believe in Darwin's theory of evolution if that is what you are trying to stab at. The predictions of the evolution model match the real-world data available to us at this time.
Keep telling yourself that class doesn't matter. Ignorance is bliss.
Rusty Shackleford
12th June 2011, 08:54
OP, if you dont think there are class differences, what, in your words would constitute a class difference?
what is a class to you?
is capitalism a classless society or a class society?
ComradeMan
12th June 2011, 10:15
Who is more likely to die of an abscess tooth because they don't have access to adequate medical care: a poor person or a rich person?
Yup, class still matters.
There's also that habit of leaving homeless patients out on the street that some hospitals have.
Perhaps this is a continental European attitude here.... but I see where Hydrogen is coming from.
Just because you're rich doesn't make you "high class"- money doesn't buy class, "signore si nasce"- is an Italian saying... "you are born a gent"... lol!!
People who think they are "classy" because they are rich.... well..... how low class.
But I think we are talking about different kinds of class distinctions to be honest.
Nevertheless I DO hate the way that some things like ignorance and rudeness, bad manners etc become associated with "working" class and things like culture, good manners etc become "snobbish", i.e. inverted-snobbery becomes a working class attitude.
#FF0000
12th June 2011, 10:23
But I think we are talking about different kinds of class distinctions to be honest.
Uh, well yeah.
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