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Reznov
10th June 2011, 19:51
Ok, a bit of a personal story to start, but I recently have been having pain in my teeth and mouth. So I go to the dentist, they tell me they can look at it, but then I have to make an appointment and come back at another time.

So I do it, 2 weeks later, she tells me again that I have cavities and that I need to make another appointment to get them filled (Filaments I think?). She also says i have wisdom teeth growing in wrong and pushing my other teeth which are causing pain, she says she has to give me a referral and that many surgical doctors don't like to treat patients with medicare and are younger than 21.

So now, I have to wait with this pain in my mouth... take a guess, for over 2 months until they said they can be filled by this dentist. Also, this is only including a certain section of my mouth (Bottom right, upper left) because in the dentists mouth "That is how the insurance company pays for it." So I will probably having to get another 2 month appointment to get another section done.

Hoping to God that this referral she gave me will accept me and my medicare, as this pain is becoming worse and worse every day.


Back to the point, why is the Medicare/Welfare system in the U.S. set up like this? And is it a failure?

In a Socialist society, would these problems be addressed quicker and more effectively? Can I get some links that prove that the Healthcare system is ineffective and unfair? From a Marxist perspective?

starmix
10th June 2011, 20:14
What you are referring to is neither welfare or medicare which are extaordinarily successful programmes.

The healthcare system in the u.s. is set up in the way it is because he government is controlled by corporate interests and not popular inerests, it's not in the corporate interest to have good, free healthcare for the people.

It is a failure. The U.S. spends more than any other industrial nation on healthcare and gets some of the worst outcomes, it spends about double what the united kingdom spends for example while being ranked 37th compared to the united kingdom's 18th in the world health organization healthcare ranking.

In a socialist society healthcare would be provided for free to all residents and hospitals would either be nationalized or collectivized. If you look at the most successful healthcare programmes in the world, they are all along these lines.

Why do you need links? Just look at any information, do a google search, read a book etc, this information is very easy to get hold of.

Glenn Beckunin
11th June 2011, 03:41
"It is a failure. The U.S. spends more than any other industrial nation on healthcare and gets some of the worst outcomes, it spends about double what the united kingdom spends for example while being ranked 37th compared to the united kingdom's 18th in the world health organization healthcare ranking."

I think it's also inefficient because we have no public option, and don't have a focus on preventative medicine. Uninsured people living paycheck to paycheck cannot afford to go to the doctor, so they wait until the illness or injury is so exacerbated that they must go to the hospital for emergency treatment. A lot of times, the bill goes unpaid and ends up driving medical costs even higher.