My rant...

[ComradeMan]

Ciao ragazzi!

ComradeMan here.

A few things have happened in my life recently and hence my absence for a while. Anyway, all of these things have caused me to re-evaluate a lot of stuff in my life and ways of thinking etc.... perhaps it's a getting older thing!

I don't know. Anyway, you know what? I just think we ALL spend too much time arguing, bickering and splitting hairs about stuff ad infinitum. I mean, today we are alive and for all we know tomorrow we could get struck by lightning or run over by a bus. We argue about religion or a-religion, we argue about means of production and distribution, we argue about the why's and wherefore's of Kronstadt etc etc etc WTF! Come on people, let's get together. I believe we are at a point in humanity's existence where we either get it right or wrong..... big time. Let's get it right. I don't care whether you're Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Parsee, Jain, Shinto, Taoist or anything else or atheist- that's up to you. I don't care whether you're gay, bi, or straight or whatever else. We are all on this boat "of life" together and we only have this boat, our ship to guide us through existence. FFS in 2050 there could be up to 14 billion people in this world- of every colour, creed, orientation, belief, ability and backgroud. WE HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I want is a fair world.
A world in which people are not discriminated against.
A world in which people have freedom of speech and expression.
A world which does not care about where you come from but rather where you are and better still, where you are going.
A world that looks after the world, and not after profit.
A world that says "brother/sister- there's plenty of room for all of us"
A world of givers and not takers.

A world of the soul of humanity.


VIVA L'UMANITA'

I believe in the human being!
__________________________________________________ __________

Please feel free to rant and pour your heart out!

[Kamos]

FFS in 2050 there could be up to 14 billion people in this world- of every colour, creed, orientation, belief, ability and backgroud.

Nah - we don't breed that fast. I doubt we'll even reach 12 billion. Just think about it: 1 year = ~30 million seconds. If we say that the population increases by 3 every second on average, we'll still fall short of that.

Unfortunately, what you want will take a long time to reach. I'm afraid that the first stage of worldwide revolution (where we take over every country in the world) will long precede the time when racism and such becomes insignificant. In fact, until that is realised we can't even start eliminating such conflict.

[RGacky3]

We are on a discussion forum .... You know how boring that would be if we did'nt have disagreements? The whole point of a discussiong forum is discussion which MEANS disagreements.

[Ele'ill]

Ciao ragazzi!

ComradeMan here.

A few things have happened in my life recently and hence my absence for a while. Anyway, all of these things have caused me to re-evaluate a lot of stuff in my life and ways of thinking etc.... perhaps it's a getting older thing!

I don't know. Anyway, you know what? I just think we ALL spend too much time arguing, bickering and splitting hairs about stuff ad infinitum. I mean, today we are alive and for all we know tomorrow we could get struck by lightning or run over by a bus. We argue about religion or a-religion, we argue about means of production and distribution, we argue about the why's and wherefore's of Kronstadt etc etc etc WTF! Come on people, let's get together. I believe we are at a point in humanity's existence where we either get it right or wrong..... big time. Let's get it right. I don't care whether you're Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Parsee, Jain, Shinto, Taoist or anything else or atheist- that's up to you. I don't care whether you're gay, bi, or straight or whatever else. We are all on this boat "of life" together and we only have this boat, our ship to guide us through existence. FFS in 2050 there could be up to 14 billion people in this world- of every colour, creed, orientation, belief, ability and backgroud. WE HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I want is a fair world.
A world in which people are not discriminated against.
A world in which people have freedom of speech and expression.
A world which does not care about where you come from but rather where you are and better still, where you are going.
A world that looks after the world, and not after profit.
A world that says "brother/sister- there's plenty of room for all of us"
A world of givers and not takers.

A world of the soul of humanity.


VIVA L'UMANITA'

I believe in the human being!
__________________________________________________ __________

Please feel free to rant and pour your heart out!



I had several reactions to this and rather than deleting them I'll list them all.

Yes.

Was the wine good?

We want a lot of that too but wanting and wishing isn't enough.

And then there's the part where the opposing force clutching the old world system does one of two things. Shrugs as we're not a threat or slaughters us blind.

[Havet]

damn, you weren't kidding with your thread title!

[Revolution starts with U]

Glad to have you back Comrade. OI just isn't the same without you. :D

[Thug Lessons]

i AM gay. ahahahahahaha

[Octavian]

You have the fortune of being exposed to enlightenment philosophy which means you want an egalitarian world but unfortunately most people haven't and wont be exposed to that kind of thought. In all honesty, race and religion will be issues of hostility till the end of time or a singularity of reason.

[ComradeMan]

You have the fortune of being exposed to enlightenment philosophy which means you want an egalitarian world but unfortunately most people haven't and wont be exposed to that kind of thought. In all honesty, race and religion will be issues of hostility till the end of time or a singularity of reason.

The trouble is... and this is one of those chicken and egg kind of thoughts...

Can a revolution whose goal is to "enlighten" (used loosely) be successful in a world full of err... unenlightened people? :confused:

[ZeroNowhere]

That was a well-written parody of cheap rhetoric.

[JustMovement]

Nice sentiments. I find the hostility unwarranted, but for some people being a communist means being an asshole.

[ComradeMan]

Nice sentiments. I find the hostility unwarranted, but for some people being a communist means being an asshole.

Thanks...

Exactly the sort of thing I was alluding to. ;)

[RGacky3]

unenlightened people?

Thats a copout, people who think everyone else is stupid are generally people that don't have many meaningful conversations.

Most people are relatively thoughtful and relatively smart, thats NOT the reason bad things happen.

[ComradeMan]

Thats a copout, people who think everyone else is stupid are generally people that don't have many meaningful conversations.

Most people are relatively thoughtful and relatively smart, thats NOT the reason bad things happen.

Being "enlightened" is not synonymous with thinking other people are stupid.

[Thirsty Crow]

I don't have to learn how to live together with a fascist. I also don't have to learn to live together with a bigot or a religious fanatic who would use every opportunity to harass me because of my beliefs or sexual preference.
And I surely do not have to learn to live together with my (future) boss and ruling party bureaucrats.

Universal love's nice but I don't think it would get us far.

[ComradeMan]

I don't have to learn how to live together with a fascist. I also don't have to learn to live together with a bigot or a religious fanatic who would use every opportunity to harass me because of my beliefs or sexual preference.
And I surely do not have to learn to live together with my (future) boss and ruling party bureaucrats.

Universal love's nice but I don't think it would get us far.

And until we learn to accept each other and live together we will continue to have fascists, bigots, xyz-phobesm, religious fanatics and selfish attitudes that propagate capitalism- because hell, we don't give a shit about them...and they don't give a shit about us... :rolleyes:

[JustMovement]

I dont think anyone is saying that all the fascists need is a hug. The world is a shit place, with shit people. But at the end of the day you will have to learn to live with bigots, and religious fanatics, because the world is small and there are a lot of them.

[Thirsty Crow]

And until we learn to accept each other and live together we will continue to have fascists, bigots, xyz-phobesm, religious fanatics and selfish attitudes that propagate capitalism- because hell, we don't give a shit about them...and they don't give a shit about us... :rolleyes:
I learned. And I think a significant majority of the people living here on our planet will learn if the basis for the formation of such social discrimination and hostility is removed. The inequalities and subordination suffered in world capitalism comprise this basis.

And I do give a shit about this kind of people. As a matter of fact, I give a shit in as much as I'd be prepared to do stuff, in association with other people, which would at least limit their (potential) influence. They're not a mere nuissance, they're a hindrance for people whose aim is to create a different world, and no amount of human understanding could work in their case.

[ZombieRothbard]

Ciao ragazzi!

ComradeMan here.

A few things have happened in my life recently and hence my absence for a while. Anyway, all of these things have caused me to re-evaluate a lot of stuff in my life and ways of thinking etc.... perhaps it's a getting older thing!

I don't know. Anyway, you know what? I just think we ALL spend too much time arguing, bickering and splitting hairs about stuff ad infinitum. I mean, today we are alive and for all we know tomorrow we could get struck by lightning or run over by a bus. We argue about religion or a-religion, we argue about means of production and distribution, we argue about the why's and wherefore's of Kronstadt etc etc etc WTF! Come on people, let's get together. I believe we are at a point in humanity's existence where we either get it right or wrong..... big time. Let's get it right. I don't care whether you're Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Parsee, Jain, Shinto, Taoist or anything else or atheist- that's up to you. I don't care whether you're gay, bi, or straight or whatever else. We are all on this boat "of life" together and we only have this boat, our ship to guide us through existence. FFS in 2050 there could be up to 14 billion people in this world- of every colour, creed, orientation, belief, ability and backgroud. WE HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I want is a fair world.
A world in which people are not discriminated against.
A world in which people have freedom of speech and expression.
A world which does not care about where you come from but rather where you are and better still, where you are going.
A world that looks after the world, and not after profit.
A world that says "brother/sister- there's plenty of room for all of us"
A world of givers and not takers.

A world of the soul of humanity.


VIVA L'UMANITA'

I believe in the human being!
__________________________________________________ __________

Please feel free to rant and pour your heart out!

It will be a bit hard to know whether or not you are looking after the world without profit won't it? Profit is a signal from the marketplace that tells you how well you are serving the community and humanities wants/needs.

[JustMovement]

No, profit is a signal from the marketplace that tells you.... how well you are accumulating profit!

You could be spewing toxic chemicals into the atmosphere, you could be building land mines that maim children in far away places, you could even be buying and selling slaves!

[RGacky3]

Profit is a signal from the marketplace that tells you how well you are serving the community and humanities wants/needs.

No its a signal you have more revenues than costs.