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ImStalinist
9th June 2011, 03:57
What is utopia? Simply put, Utopia is a perfect or near perfect society or form of government. It often laughed because men are flawed, I will discuss these questions in my essay.

Humans are flawed, and life isn't fair. In all societies or forms of governments, there will be problems caused by humans and/or nature. Due to this, we can conclude that a completely Utopic society is impossible.

However, can there be a society that is almost perfect? No, because you are never safe from nature. Even if all the human flaws are discarded, they will always be like bad weather that can damage any type of economy.

Also, while human nature is easily changeable, they'll always be people not happy with the system. Which is good in most cases, however what if wanted like a fascist society or any other bad society you can think of?

These people can cause trouble with can lead to violence, death, famine and poverty. Also, some of these bad people can cause stuff like r**e, murder, battery etc.

In conclusion, utopia-- in any form --is not possible. Due to human nature and nature.

Summerspeaker
9th June 2011, 04:06
We're unlikely to ever have a universal definition of perfect, but the laws of physics show no signs of preventing material abundance and social harmony. A society the vast majority of us would recognize as a utopia or paradise likely could exist.

The Man
9th June 2011, 04:20
If your Communist, you might not view a Corporatist/Capitalist Utopia as a 'Utopia'. It really depends what your views are. Also, define Human Nature.

Weezer
9th June 2011, 04:24
Utopia is Ancient Greek for "non-place".

There's a reason it's called that. Utopias are ideal societies of the imagination, hence Thomas Moore's book Utopia(how the word was popularized) is what he envisioned as a perfect society.

So, when people refer to socialism and communism as "utopian" or "utopic" or "utopia", they're wrong. Socialism and communism are supposed the next successions and economic stages in civilization, not perfect societies.

miltonwasfried...man
11th June 2011, 04:41
In conclusion, utopia-- in any form --is not possible. Due to human nature and nature.

There is no set "human nature", people are not genetically destined to behave a certain way. You do not inherit genes that determine the kind of person you are but instead are influenced by those around you and society as a whole. Capitalism and consumerism place individualism and greed as the top values as thusly create likeminded citizens. I do not believe "utopia" is impossible because of some non existent human nature but rather because perfection is in the eye of the beholder. Meaning everyone differs on what they think is perfect, so a single vision of a utopia is unattainable.