The U.S. Government is Guilty of Using Dogs to Rape Women

[Rakhmetov]

"They force [Sister Dianna] Ortiz, who entered the novitiate at the age of 17, to jerk them off and perform oral sex. They hurt her in other ways she won't describe. (The most chilling line in the book is in a different section, where Ortiz, casually explaining her fear of dogs, says, "Dogs were used in my torture in a way that was too horrible to share with anyone. Even now, I don't talk about that part of the torture.") And they put her in a pit of dying and dead people who've already been tortured -- including children. Most damaging of all, they position Ortiz's hands around a machete and force the machete, in her hands, into another torture victim, murdering the woman."

"I got pregnant as a result of the multiple gang
rapes by my torturers, and unable to carry within me what
they had engendered, what I could view only as a monster, the product of the men who had raped me, I turned to someone for assistance and I destroyed that life. Am I proud of this decision? No. But if I had to make the decision again, I believe I would again decide as I did eight years ago."

http://www.rfkcenter.org/sttp/profile/sister-dianna-ortiz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianna_Ortiz

www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3NrCYU5zNE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3NrCYU5zNE)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=R54Lbm6jVSY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R54Lbm6jVSY&feature=related)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClRXV8Ph9pc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClRXV8Ph9pc&feature=related)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hZJQHA9sug&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hZJQHA9sug&feature=related)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-K_ZZD1Zw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-K_ZZD1Zw&feature=related)

http://dir.salon.com/story/books/review/2002/11/19/ortiz/index1.html

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/2/7/torture-under-pinochet-we-were-peeling/

www.fas.org/sgp/congress/senhria.html (http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/senhria.html)

www.amazon.com/Blindfolds-Eyes-Journey-Torture-Truth/dp/1570755639/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210873219&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Blindfolds-Eyes-Journey-Torture-Truth/dp/1570755639/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210873219&sr=1-1)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/11/AR2006121101204.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0103-50.htm

[AmericanSocialist]

This is dusgusting. How can one be proud to be an American when such atrocities occur under the banner of the US government?

BTW (another off topic point) that bible quote is very interesting. I've been reading the God Delusion. How strange religion can be and how it has screwed up this world.

[Rooster]

Wait, that wiki pages states that it was the Guatemalan military that gang raped and tortured her, and that it was the US court that she went through to get compensation.

[Forward Union]

Wait, that wiki pages states that it was the Guatemalan military that gang raped and tortured her, and that it was the US court that she went through to get compensation.

Guatemala is a satalite state of the US, in the same way atrocities committed in Ukraine during that period are attributed to Russia.

[AmericanSocialist]

I am not sure about this particular case, but the US government did support the slaughter of Guatemalans in the past.

[Rakhmetov]

Wait, that wiki pages states that it was the Guatemalan military that gang raped and tortured her, and that it was the US court that she went through to get compensation.

By the way, she was "awarded" compensation but so far she has not received a dime. Hector Gramajo-- the guy she sued was attending Harvard University where he had been invited in order to refine his skills as a mass murderer. While he was walking down the aisle to receive his diploma a couple of people went up to him and served him a subpoena to appear in court. Well, needless to say since that day he hasn't stepped in the USA again. In fact, he and his son were killed by a swarm of killer bees ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ctor_Gramajo

As a U.S. citizen, I had another advantage: I could, in relative safety, reveal afterwards the details of what happened to me in those twenty-four hours. One of those details: an American was in charge of my torturers.

I remember the moment he removed my blindfold. I asked him, "Are you an American?" In poor Spanish and with a heavy American accent, he answered me with a question: "Why do you want to know?" Moments before, after the torturers had blindfolded me again and were getting ready to rape me again, they had called out in Spanish: "Hey, Alejandro, come and have some fun!"

And a voice had responded "Shit!" in perfect American English with no trace of an accent. It was the voice of the tall, fair-skinned man beside me. After swearing, he’d switched to a halting Spanish. "Idiots!" he said. "She’s a North American nun." He added that my disappearance had been made public, and he ran them out of the room.

Now he was helping me on with my clothes. "Vamos," he said, and he led me out of the building. He kept telling me he was sorry. The torturers had made a mistake. We came to a parking garage, where he put me into a gray Suzuki jeep and told me he was taking me to a friend of his at the U.S. embassy who would help me leave the country.

For the duration of the trip, I spoke to him in English, which he understood perfectly. He said he was concerned about the people of Guatemala and consequently was working to liberate them from Communism. Alejandro told me to forgive my torturers because they had confused me with Veronica Ortiz Hernandez. It was an honest mistake.

I asked him how they could have mistaken me for a woman who did not resemble me in any way. And why were the threatening letters I had received addressed to Madre Dianna and not to Veronica Ortiz Hernandez? He avoided my questions and insinuated that I was to blame for my torture because I had not heeded the threats that were sent to me. I asked him what would happen to the other people I had heard screaming and saw tortured before my eyes. He told me not to concern myself with them and to forget what had happened.

In English again, he made it clear that if I didn’t "forgive" my torturers, I would face consequences. "We have the videotapes and the photographs," he said. Soon the jeep stopped in traffic. We were near an intersection and up ahead was a red light. I took advantage of the opportunity, jumped out of the jeep, and ran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umr03Na3rg4&feature=related

http://www.rfkcenter.org/sttp/profile/sister-dianna-ortiz

[Rakhmetov]

This is dusgusting. How can one be proud to be an American when such atrocities occur under the banner of the US government?

BTW (another off topic point) that bible quote is very interesting. I've been reading the God Delusion. How strange religion can be and how it has screwed up this world.

Psalm 137:9

Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.



Malachi 2:3

Behold I will corrupt thy seed and smear feces upon your faces.

2nd Kings 18:27

Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may dine on their own feces and drink their own piss with you?

Numbers 31: 17-18

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Exodus 6: 20

Amram married his father's sister Jochebed, and she bore him Aaron and Moses ...


Deuteronomy 25: 11-12

“When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/imm_bibl2.htm

http://www.religioustolerance.org/imm_bibl1.htm

[Forward Union]

I am not sure about this particular case, but the US government did support the slaughter of Guatemalans in the past.

Well, more than ' support' it was the primary, if not sole cause.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

A fucking sick story....just when you thought the U.S government couldn't get anymore twisted.

[Robocommie]

Come the fuck on, Rakhmetov. 1) Few if any of those quotes have anything to do with religion as practiced by people today, and frankly, cherrypicking the Bible for the weirdest and funniest sounding lines is childish.

2) That has fuck all to do with your thread, and this is not the forum for that liberal Dawkinsian nonsense.

[Reznov]

Wait, where did she have sex with dogs, am I missing something or was that figurative for the behavior of the soldiers?

[Rakhmetov]

Wait, where did she have sex with dogs, am I missing something or was that figurative for the behavior of the soldiers?

2nd paragraph of page 2 of Salon.com's book review


http://dir.salon.com/story/books/review/2002/11/19/ortiz/index1.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YguDv4XC9N4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Kb-MBodbA&feature=related

http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/1990----.htm

[Glenn Beckunin]

Why is the Washington Post link about General Pinochet of Chile?

[Ocean Seal]

In fact, he and his son were killed by a swarm of killer bees.
Wow, I'm not generally a big fan of killer bees but at least one of their victims had it fucking coming. I guess bees are actually revolutionary collectivists :confused:.

[Rakhmetov]

Why is the Washington Post link about General Pinochet of Chile?

Because in that article you find this tidbit:

But when Pinochet spoke of the need to "extirpate" communism from Chilean soil, it sent chills down my spine. As victims emerged from secret prisons, we learned what that verb really meant: fingernails pulled out, electric shocks applied to genitals, mock-rape by dogs. To this day, I remember the faces and the voices of weeping men, ashamed to confide the terrible things that had been done to them.

[chegitz guevara]

In fact, he and his son were killed by a swarm of killer bees ...

Because of the way he died, I do not mourn that he escaped justice. Dying in terror is how these fucks need to go.