views on the Greek People's Assemblies?

[RedMarxist]

What are your views on the Greek People's Assemblies? Do you think that they can spread nationwide and topple the government and start anew? Europe wide? Even worldwide?

Is this a return to the days of the Soviets in Russia? is direct democracy a real possibility-is it the end of representative democracy as we know it?

As far as i can tell the bourgeois media in Greece continues to poorly address the issue of People's Assemblies. Also, have heard nothing about them in the mainstream American media such as CNN /NBC etc.

It seems they are very far left-or at least moderate left. Communists seem to play an important role however, having taken over the finance building during the protests. In the people's assemblies various individuals advocated an end to private property and even money. and like is said above, the media and Greek politicians have either been silent or attacked the movement. why?

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLIES OF GREECE AND THE WORLD!

[Delenda Carthago]

What are your views on the Greek People's Assemblies?demi. one demo, two Greeces. The apolitical scums that throw moutzes at the parliament and scream "thieves,thieves" and the others that do assemblies in Syntagma sq. and try to actually do something.


Do you think that they can spread nationwide and topple the government and start anew?They are spread nationwide and the goverment is to collapse anytime. They try to create a goverment with all the right wing parties that will support the IMF program, but we ll see...


Europe wide?It started in Spain, then came to Greece, then there were some effords in France and I think Germany.



Even worldwide? Westernwide maybe.We ll see...


Is this a return to the days of the Soviets in Russia?no


is direct democracy a real possibility-is it the end of representative democracy as we know it?yes


As far as i can tell the bourgeois media in Greece continues to poorly address the issue of People's Assemblies.on the contrary, they promote it like there is no tommorow. Like this is the shit right here. And every third word in their reports is "PEACEFULL".


Also, have heard nothing about them in the mainstream American media such as CNN /NBC etc. fuck em


It seems they are very far left-or at least moderate left.far from it, this is the most right winged demos EVER. The first time that so many right wing human garbadges have take it to the streets waving fuckin greek flags.


Communists seem to play an important role however, having taken over the finance building during the protests.Where the fuck do you get this??? If by "communists" you mean KKE, KKE has kept a distance from the whole thing since day one. Leftists and anarchists are split in the middle. Some are pro, some are against.


In the people's assemblies various individuals advocated an end to private property and even money.My dude, you high or smth?



ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLIES OF GREECE AND THE WORLD! yeah, power to the people and all...

about what moutza is:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moutza

[RedMarxist]

how are they apolitical scums? mostly right wingers? as far as i can tell, it took on quite a left view, with anti-fascism and what not! don't most of the protesters participate in people's assemblies! how is it not a return to the soviets(councils)?

Soviets = people's councils/assemblies. Soviets were directly democratic. Greek People's assemblies are also for direct democracy. they both are against the government. how is it not a return to direct democracy/councils?

"far from it, this is the most right winged demos EVER. The first time that so many right wing human garbadges have take it to the streets waving fuckin greek flags."

only a handful of people are waving greek flags. not all are fucking pieces of fascist garbage. some are just nationalistic. It's a crime apparently to be proud of your nation! wtf??


is direct democracy a real possibility-is it the end of representative democracy as we know it? "yes"

agreed. I sincerely hope the people's assemblies can replace representative democracy Europewide. Don't know if it will catch on in America though(doubt it)

I'm sick of all that shit that says that the people arnt capable of ruling-that they must instead by subservient lap dogs to government officials-which by the way think they are better then us and misrepresent us like Scott Walker

The CIA-FBI-US government believes that they can trounce over the democracy that we still have. Committing crimes, bullying us, bullying other nations! sick. I support Greece fully

[theblackmask]

Yes, please tell the person from Greece what to think.

[Thirsty Crow]

Is this a return to the days of the Soviets in Russia? is direct democracy a real possibility-is it the end of representative democracy as we know it?

See, it's hard for me to understand how is the end of representative democracy in sight when social revolution is not. Do you think that political mechanisms of participatory democracy can be implemented within the social and political situation of capital's crisis, without an conscious attempt at toppling capital as social relation? Or do you think that these developments point towards capitalist restructuring in the sense of worker's participation in management and te division of surplus value?

My answers, on both questions, would be "no".

[red flag over teeside]

From what I can gather these peoples assemblies are made up of a wide variety of political tendencies but are not a conscious attempt at overthrowing the Greek capitalist state and replacing the capitalist state with a network of interdependent workers councils ie workers state. The task for Marxists within these organisations is to provide a political leadership which is supported by the mass of urban workers and poor rural workers.

[Delenda Carthago]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/home.php?sk=group_218940354800038


whoever wants to send its solidarity...

[chegitz guevara]

linkies?

[bcbm]

http://democratic-individuality.blogspot.com/2011/06/direct-democracy-and-class-war-in.html